Barg's stats for the series

ebrian wrote:
> On May 1, 4:54 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> <lansdellici....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ebrian wrote:
>>> On Apr 30, 4:06 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
>>> <lansdellici....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Austin Healy wrote:
>>>>> In article <67qrlfF2pm48....TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>> lansdellici....TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...
>>>>>> Lovely. Which Toronto media personality gave you your opinion?
>>>>> Don't be silly, all the writers are echoing your opinion. I'm prepared
>>>>> to go out on a limb and say he's a bust RIGHT NOW.
>>>> They're really not.
>>>>>> When he's 25 or 26, if he's still
>>>>>> doing this, then he will be a bust.
>>>>> See above.
>>>>> Bargnani will never do anything in this league. Not for the Raptors, and
>>>>> not for any team foolish enough to trade for him. He is a certified
>>>>> stiff.
>>>> Fair enough, that's your opinion. It's my opinion that Chris Bosh either
>>>> needs to be traded or made into the number 2 guy on the team. BC has
>>>> gone on record as saying that he's looking for a 20ppg scorer. He has
>>>> Ford and Rasho as trading pieces, total salary around 16 million. I'd
>>>> also like to see him make a run at Reggie Evans. I like Reggie Evans.
>>>> --
>>>> --
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>>> Chris, if we had Reggie Evans, when would he ever play?
>>> It can't go both ways. If you're a supporter of Andrea Bargnani, then
>>> if we got a Reggie Evans he would be getting --at most-- Kris
>>> Humphries minutes which are minimal.
>> You must have missed the numerous parts where I said to trade Bosh.
>> However, I would rather Bargs at the 3.
>
> Oh I understand now.
>
> You'd rather have a lineup of:
> C: Rasho
> PF: Reggie Evans
> SF: Bargnani
> SG: Parker
> PG: Forderon
>
> Than what we have now. Because THEN we'd be better. Yea, that makes
> sense.
> This lineup would be the worst starting lineup in the NBA. I'm not
> sure this team can beat D-Leagues teams.
>
> You've lost your marbles man.

Actually, you have. What, we got nothing for Bosh? I wouldn't keep Rasho
either.

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On May 2, 5:10 am, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
<lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> ebrian wrote:
> > On May 1, 4:54 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> > <lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ebrian wrote:
> >>> On Apr 30, 4:06 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> >>> <lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Austin Healy wrote:
> >>>>> In article <67qrlfF2pm48....DeleteThis@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>>> lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>> Lovely. Which Toronto media personality gave you your opinion?
> >>>>> Don't be silly, all the writers are echoing your opinion. I'm prepared
> >>>>> to go out on a limb and say he's a bust RIGHT NOW.
> >>>> They're really not.
> >>>>>> When he's 25 or 26, if he's still
> >>>>>> doing this, then he will be a bust.
> >>>>> See above.
> >>>>> Bargnani will never do anything in this league. Not for the Raptors, and
> >>>>> not for any team foolish enough to trade for him. He is a certified
> >>>>> stiff.
> >>>> Fair enough, that's your opinion. It's my opinion that Chris Bosh either
> >>>> needs to be traded or made into the number 2 guy on the team. BC has
> >>>> gone on record as saying that he's looking for a 20ppg scorer. He has
> >>>> Ford and Rasho as trading pieces, total salary around 16 million. I'd
> >>>> also like to see him make a run at Reggie Evans. I like Reggie Evans.
> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>> Lansdellicious - out. SURIMATE!http://www.411mania.com/user_profile.php?user_id=2212www.altraps.com
> >>> Chris, if we had Reggie Evans, when would he ever play?
> >>> It can't go both ways. If you're a supporter of Andrea Bargnani, then
> >>> if we got a Reggie Evans he would be getting --at most-- Kris
> >>> Humphries minutes which are minimal.
> >> You must have missed the numerous parts where I said to trade Bosh.
> >> However, I would rather Bargs at the 3.
>
> > Oh I understand now.
>
> > You'd rather have a lineup of:
> > C: Rasho
> > PF: Reggie Evans
> > SF: Bargnani
> > SG: Parker
> > PG: Forderon
>
> > Than what we have now. Because THEN we'd be better. Yea, that makes
> > sense.
> > This lineup would be the worst starting lineup in the NBA. I'm not
> > sure this team can beat D-Leagues teams.
>
> > You've lost your marbles man.
>
> Actually, you have. What, we got nothing for Bosh? I wouldn't keep Rasho
> either.
>
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Who would you trade in for Bosh?

What's your ideal team? You mentioned "lockdown defense" in another
post. I can think of just 2-3 teams in the league with this ability,
and none of them pulled off a sweep in the first round of the
playoffs.
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In article <6803ttF2qi381U1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
lansdellicious.RemoveThis@gmail.com says...

> Putting Bargs at the 3 would

C'mon man, Bargs will never, ever play at 3.
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On May 2, 11:52 am, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
<lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> ebrian wrote:
> > On May 2, 5:10 am, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> > <lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> ebrian wrote:
> >>> On May 1, 4:54 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> >>> <lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> ebrian wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 30, 4:06 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> >>>>> <lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Austin Healy wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <67qrlfF2pm48....DeleteThis@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>>>>> lansdellici....DeleteThis@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>> Lovely. Which Toronto media personality gave you your opinion?
> >>>>>>> Don't be silly, all the writers are echoing your opinion. I'm prepared
> >>>>>>> to go out on a limb and say he's a bust RIGHT NOW.
> >>>>>> They're really not.
> >>>>>>>> When he's 25 or 26, if he's still
> >>>>>>>> doing this, then he will be a bust.
> >>>>>>> See above.
> >>>>>>> Bargnani will never do anything in this league. Not for the Raptors, and
> >>>>>>> not for any team foolish enough to trade for him. He is a certified
> >>>>>>> stiff.
> >>>>>> Fair enough, that's your opinion. It's my opinion that Chris Bosh either
> >>>>>> needs to be traded or made into the number 2 guy on the team. BC has
> >>>>>> gone on record as saying that he's looking for a 20ppg scorer. He has
> >>>>>> Ford and Rasho as trading pieces, total salary around 16 million. I'd
> >>>>>> also like to see him make a run at Reggie Evans. I like Reggie Evans.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Lansdellicious - out. SURIMATE!http://www.411mania.com/user_profile.php?user_id=2212www.altraps.com
> >>>>> Chris, if we had Reggie Evans, when would he ever play?
> >>>>> It can't go both ways. If you're a supporter of Andrea Bargnani, then
> >>>>> if we got a Reggie Evans he would be getting --at most-- Kris
> >>>>> Humphries minutes which are minimal.
> >>>> You must have missed the numerous parts where I said to trade Bosh.
> >>>> However, I would rather Bargs at the 3.
> >>> Oh I understand now.
> >>> You'd rather have a lineup of:
> >>> C: Rasho
> >>> PF: Reggie Evans
> >>> SF: Bargnani
> >>> SG: Parker
> >>> PG: Forderon
> >>> Than what we have now. Because THEN we'd be better. Yea, that makes
> >>> sense.
> >>> This lineup would be the worst starting lineup in the NBA. I'm not
> >>> sure this team can beat D-Leagues teams.
> >>> You've lost your marbles man.
> >> Actually, you have. What, we got nothing for Bosh? I wouldn't keep Rasho
> >> either.
>
> >> --
> >> --
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>
> > Who would you trade in for Bosh?
>
> > What's your ideal team? You mentioned "lockdown defense" in another
> > post. I can think of just 2-3 teams in the league with this ability,
> > and none of them pulled off a sweep in the first round of the
> > playoffs.
>
> What would I trade for Bosh? excellent question. Ideally, I'd do Bosh
> and Rasho for Marion, Miami's pick and filler. Miami gets a scorer to
> play behind Wade and an expiring. We get a young stud and a proven
> multi-facet player who has never been given the chance to lead a team.
> It won't happen though.
>
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Bosh for Marion?

I'm almost afraid to ask, but Marion? MARION?! Why? Because of his
amazing winning attitude? Because he'd rather play for the worst team
in the league and get recognition, than play in the playoffs and have
a shot at a championship?

Please think about this again, and tell me who you would REALLY trade
Bosh for.
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Austin Healy wrote:
> In article <6803ttF2qi381U1.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
> lansdellicious.RemoveThis@gmail.com says...
>
>> Putting Bargs at the 3 would
>
> C'mon man, Bargs will never, ever play at 3.

You didn't watch game 1, did you?

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In article <680rchF2odeqfU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
lansdellicious DeleteThis @gmail.com says...

> You didn't watch game 1, did you?

Yeah, I did. Wasn't that the game where they wiped the floor with us?
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ebrian wrote:
> On May 2, 5:10 am, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> <lansdellici... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> ebrian wrote:
>>> On May 1, 4:54 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
>>> <lansdellici... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> ebrian wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 30, 4:06 pm, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
>>>>> <lansdellici... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Austin Healy wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <67qrlfF2pm48... RemoveThis @mid.individual.net>,
>>>>>>> lansdellici... RemoveThis @gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>> Lovely. Which Toronto media personality gave you your opinion?
>>>>>>> Don't be silly, all the writers are echoing your opinion. I'm prepared
>>>>>>> to go out on a limb and say he's a bust RIGHT NOW.
>>>>>> They're really not.
>>>>>>>> When he's 25 or 26, if he's still
>>>>>>>> doing this, then he will be a bust.
>>>>>>> See above.
>>>>>>> Bargnani will never do anything in this league. Not for the Raptors, and
>>>>>>> not for any team foolish enough to trade for him. He is a certified
>>>>>>> stiff.
>>>>>> Fair enough, that's your opinion. It's my opinion that Chris Bosh either
>>>>>> needs to be traded or made into the number 2 guy on the team. BC has
>>>>>> gone on record as saying that he's looking for a 20ppg scorer. He has
>>>>>> Ford and Rasho as trading pieces, total salary around 16 million. I'd
>>>>>> also like to see him make a run at Reggie Evans. I like Reggie Evans.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lansdellicious - out. SURIMATE!http://www.411mania.com/user_profile.php?user_id=2212www.altraps.com
>>>>> Chris, if we had Reggie Evans, when would he ever play?
>>>>> It can't go both ways. If you're a supporter of Andrea Bargnani, then
>>>>> if we got a Reggie Evans he would be getting --at most-- Kris
>>>>> Humphries minutes which are minimal.
>>>> You must have missed the numerous parts where I said to trade Bosh.
>>>> However, I would rather Bargs at the 3.
>>> Oh I understand now.
>>> You'd rather have a lineup of:
>>> C: Rasho
>>> PF: Reggie Evans
>>> SF: Bargnani
>>> SG: Parker
>>> PG: Forderon
>>> Than what we have now. Because THEN we'd be better. Yea, that makes
>>> sense.
>>> This lineup would be the worst starting lineup in the NBA. I'm not
>>> sure this team can beat D-Leagues teams.
>>> You've lost your marbles man.
>> Actually, you have. What, we got nothing for Bosh? I wouldn't keep Rasho
>> either.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Lansdellicious - out. SURIMATE!http://www.411mania.com/user_profile.php?user_id=2212www.altraps.com
>
> Who would you trade in for Bosh?
>
> What's your ideal team? You mentioned "lockdown defense" in another
> post. I can think of just 2-3 teams in the league with this ability,
> and none of them pulled off a sweep in the first round of the
> playoffs.

What would I trade for Bosh? excellent question. Ideally, I'd do Bosh
and Rasho for Marion, Miami's pick and filler. Miami gets a scorer to
play behind Wade and an expiring. We get a young stud and a proven
multi-facet player who has never been given the chance to lead a team.
It won't happen though.

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Austin Healy wrote:
> In article <680rchF2odeqfU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
> lansdellicious DeleteThis @gmail.com says...
>
>> You didn't watch game 1, did you?
>
> Yeah, I did. Wasn't that the game where they wiped the floor with us?

There was no game where they wiped the floor with us. It was the game
where we lost the first quarter so badly that even winning the last 3
were no good.

The entire thread can be summed up thus:

Bargnani played badly. He was started at the 3 in game 1, a position he
had not played all year, and asked to guard a player who has more
playoff experience than anyone on either team. He never recovered. His
rebounding was invisible, his shooting was mostly poor, and he looked lost.

BUT he is not the star of the team, he is young, and he was played in
weird ways. To pin the loss on him would be unreasonable.

Even when he started to shoot well, e.g hit 2 shots in a row, he would
not see the ball again for a while, giving him no chance to establish a
rhythm. This complaint is one I've had about the team all year, so I
should not be surprised. Point is, though, that when he started to
catch, he wasn't given the chance to see how on fire he was. Delfino is
a major reason for that, but Ford needs to shoulder a lot of that blame too.

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