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Since: Feb 17, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:45 pm
Post subject: Carlos Boozer's karma Archived from groups: rec>sport>basketball>pro, others (more info?)
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Boozer infamously backstabbed the Cavaliers after last season and
jumped ship to the Jazz. Now that the all-star break is upon us, let's
revisit Mr. Boozer and let's see how things turned out:
Boozer's stats are about the same as last year, so he's maintained the
same level of performance. But apparently he has brought bad karma upon
the Jazz. Last year, the Jazz were .512 and just 1 game shy of the
playoffs. This year, with a superior team, they are .327 and third to
last place in their conference. That's a 36% worse winning percentage
than last year.
Meanwhile, the Cavs have the 3rd best record in the conference and a
..588 winning percentage. That's a 38% better winning percentage than
last year's .427. Moreoever, Boozer's replacement, Drew Gooden, is
having a career year and completely filled Boozer's void with similar
stats. Gooden costs $3M per year. Boozer costs $10M per year.
The dumbest thing was that Boozer gave up the chance to play with
someone who will be one of the greatest players in NBA history. He
could have been the next Scottie Pippen. If I were Jazz management, I
would dump Boozer *now* because he is all bad karma. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Feb 18, 2005 Posts: 250
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:01 am
Post subject: Re: Carlos Boozer's karma [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 17 Feb 2005 22:45:55 -0800, "Bucky" <uw_badgers DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote:
>Boozer infamously backstabbed the Cavaliers after last season and
>jumped ship to the Jazz. Now that the all-star break is upon us, let's
>revisit Mr. Boozer and let's see how things turned out:
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>Boozer's stats are about the same as last year, so he's maintained the
>same level of performance.
but i suspect that now that he's no longer the 3rd-4th option he was
expected to get bigger numbers & carry the team to a certain degree.
that ain't happenin'.
heh.
> But apparently he has brought bad karma upon
>the Jazz. Last year, the Jazz were .512 and just 1 game shy of the
>playoffs. This year, with a superior team, they are .327 and third to
>last place in their conference. That's a 36% worse winning percentage
>than last year.
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>Meanwhile, the Cavs have the 3rd best record in the conference and a
>.588 winning percentage. That's a 38% better winning percentage than
>last year's .427. Moreoever, Boozer's replacement, Drew Gooden, is
>having a career year and completely filled Boozer's void with similar
>stats.
gooden AND varejao but yeah, we really don't miss him much at all,
plus we get more blocks from the PF position now.
> Gooden costs $3M per year. Boozer costs $10M per year.
>
>The dumbest thing was that Boozer gave up the chance to play with
>someone who will be one of the greatest players in NBA history.
> He could have been the next Scottie Pippen.
more like the next horace grant than pippen, i think.
> If I were Jazz management, I
>would dump Boozer *now* because he is all bad karma.
who would take him? besides, that would be tantmount to admitting that
they made a mistake.
utah brought the bad karma upon themselves when they structured the
contract in a way so as to prevent Cleveland from matching the offer.
so bozo got his money, and now now he's stuck trying to fill karl
malone's shoes & also has to put up with an owner that won't hesitate
to rip him publicly. i LOVE it. plus i doubt he's going to get any
sort of endorsement income except for invisible ink or liars
anonymous.
i'd consider it true karma if it turned out that carlos boozer never
won a playoff game over the length of his current contract -
regardless of whatever team he was playing for. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Mar 22, 2004 Posts: 15
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:29 am
Post subject: Re: Carlos Boozer's karma [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> The dumbest thing was that Boozer gave up the chance to play with
> someone who will be one of the greatest players in NBA history. He
> could have been the next Scottie Pippen. If I were Jazz management, I
> would dump Boozer *now* because he is all bad karma.
Excellent point. Be careful what you wish for - he wanted to be "the man"
and not second fiddle to one of the greats, and look what it got him? Would
you rather be captain of a shrimp boat or first mate on a battleship? Well,
Boozer's shaping up to be first mate on the shrimp boat (come on, it's
Kirilenko's team), and has done more to justify his doubters than
supporters. Bravo Booz!! >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: May 12, 2004 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:02 pm
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"Bucky" <uw_badgers.TakeThisOut@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1108709155.884105.162990@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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> The dumbest thing was that Boozer gave up the chance to play with
> someone who will be one of the greatest players in NBA history.
Well, that extra 30 million dollars may help him stomach the
disappointment... >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:25 pm
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J.T. <noaddressgiven.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Excellent point. Be careful what you wish for - he wanted to be "the man"
>and not second fiddle to one of the greats, and look what it got him? Would
>you rather be captain of a shrimp boat or first mate on a battleship? Well,
All the shrimp I could eat? I think the choice is obvious.
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"_Brogmoids:_ In the wild, they can be seen in huge pages sorting
through rock piles looking for edible rocks. From this fact it is not
difficult to see why brogmoids live considerably longer in captivity."
-Encyclopedia Frobozzica. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Feb 21, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:25 pm
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"Bucky" <uw_badgers DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
news:1108709155.884105.162990@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Boozer infamously backstabbed the Cavaliers after last season and
> jumped ship to the Jazz. Now that the all-star break is upon us, let's
> revisit Mr. Boozer and let's see how things turned out:
>
> Boozer's stats are about the same as last year, so he's maintained the
> same level of performance. But apparently he has brought bad karma upon
> the Jazz. Last year, the Jazz were .512 and just 1 game shy of the
> playoffs. This year, with a superior team, they are .327 and third to
> last place in their conference. That's a 36% worse winning percentage
> than last year.
>
> Meanwhile, the Cavs have the 3rd best record in the conference and a
> .588 winning percentage. That's a 38% better winning percentage than
> last year's .427. Moreoever, Boozer's replacement, Drew Gooden, is
> having a career year and completely filled Boozer's void with similar
> stats. Gooden costs $3M per year. Boozer costs $10M per year.
>
> The dumbest thing was that Boozer gave up the chance to play with
> someone who will be one of the greatest players in NBA history. He
> could have been the next Scottie Pippen. If I were Jazz management, I
> would dump Boozer *now* because he is all bad karma.
>
Personally, too much credit is being given to Boozer. Cleveland's better
record could only be attributed to none other than LeBron James and no one
else. As for the Jazz, they're problems can be blamed on three factors
outside Boozer. First, they were 6-1 to start the season before Carlos
Arroyo came off the injured list and brought the bad karma being pinned on
Boozer. Second, Kirilenko goes out for two months, and essentially the
Jazz' season with him. Third, other teams in the league no longer overlook
the Jazz like they did last year.
With that said, anyone who signs a $10 mil + contract is going to be open
for criticism, and rightfully so. However, I would at least wait until
Boozer is "over-the-hill" at age 25 before dumping him. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Dec 09, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:12 am
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In article <cv5thf$71o$1@morgoth.sfu.ca>, archang.RemoveThis@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang) wrote:
>J.T. <noaddressgiven.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Excellent point. Be careful what you wish for - he wanted to be "the man"
>>and not second fiddle to one of the greats, and look what it got him? Would
>>you rather be captain of a shrimp boat or first mate on a battleship? Well,
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> All the shrimp I could eat? I think the choice is obvious.
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Change that to Brine Shrimp and you'd change your mind!!! >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Feb 18, 2005 Posts: 250
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:12 am
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:12:35 GMT, glenzabr.DeleteThis@nospamallowed.xmission.com
(GMAN) wrote:
>In article <cv5thf$71o$1@morgoth.sfu.ca>, archang.DeleteThis@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan Chang) wrote:
>>J.T. <noaddressgiven.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>Excellent point. Be careful what you wish for - he wanted to be "the man"
>>>and not second fiddle to one of the greats, and look what it got him? Would
>>>you rather be captain of a shrimp boat or first mate on a battleship? Well,
>>
>> All the shrimp I could eat? I think the choice is obvious.
>>
>Change that to Brine Shrimp and you'd change your mind!!!
any shrimp you have to clean & devein before eating would do the
trick. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Feb 23, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:21 pm
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Since: Feb 23, 2005 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:17 pm
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glenzabr.RemoveThis@nospamallowed.xmission.com (GMAN) wrote:
> In article <cv5thf$71o$1@morgoth.sfu.ca>, archang.RemoveThis@sfu.ca (Andrew Ryan
> Chang) wrote:
> >J.T. <noaddressgiven.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>Excellent point. Be careful what you wish for - he wanted to be "the
> >>man" and not second fiddle to one of the greats, and look what it got
> >>him? Would you rather be captain of a shrimp boat or first mate on a
> >>battleship? Well,
> >
> > All the shrimp I could eat? I think the choice is obvious.
> >
> Change that to Brine Shrimp and you'd change your mind!!!
>
Piss clams too. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Dec 09, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:42 pm
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In article <1109222492.497716.281210.DeleteThis@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, elastin55.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>Dont forget that Utah is a very racist city.
>
Ass!
Utah is a state, not a city. And we have one of the largest native american
and hispanic population in the USA. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Feb 18, 2005 Posts: 250
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:42 pm
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:42:53 GMT, glenzabr DeleteThis @nospamallowed.xmission.com
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>In article <1109222492.497716.281210 DeleteThis @l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, elastin55 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>>Dont forget that Utah is a very racist city.
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>Ass!
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> Utah is a state, not a city. And we have one of the largest native american
>and hispanic population in the USA.
i am curious though, how many people live in utah & what percentage of
that is the population of salt lake city? and what percentage of that
is LDS? a college hallmate told me once of how his father who was in
the military got transferred and his mother was approached by a
neighbor who asked them "are you LDS?". his mother answered "what's
that?" - and no one else in the neighborhood ever visited them again
the entire time they lived there. >> Stay informed about: Carlos Boozer's karma |
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Since: Jul 19, 2006 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:42 pm
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barry wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:42:53 GMT, glenzabr.RemoveThis@nospamallowed.xmission.com
> (GMAN) wrote:
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>>In article <1109222492.497716.281210.RemoveThis@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, elastin55.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
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>>>Dont forget that Utah is a very racist city.
>>>
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>>Ass!
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>>Utah is a state, not a city. And we have one of the largest native american
>>and hispanic population in the USA.
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> i am curious though, how many people live in utah & what percentage of
> that is the population of salt lake city? and what percentage of that
> is LDS? a college hallmate told me once of how his father who was in
> the military got transferred and his mother was approached by a
> neighbor who asked them "are you LDS?". his mother answered "what's
> that?" - and no one else in the neighborhood ever visited them again
> the entire time they lived there.
The Wasatch Front has a large majority of the population; Utah is the
most urbanized state in the union! But that really just means that most
of the state is VERY lightly populated, with everyone living in cities.
LDS is about 75% (plus) of the state population, but less than half the
population of SL county. SL City is a liberal refuge in the middle of a
very conservative state. We have a Democrat mayor that keeps pissing off
the rest of the state. That's fun.
Racism is everywhere, not just in Utah. I don't see much of it at all
(not a minority), but blacks and hispanics are generally treated
properly. Bigotry OTOH is rampant. Gays are kept very uncomfortable. And
if you're not LDS in one of those very LDS neighborhoods, it'll sting.
But most people are decent, just like everywhere. Church doctrine frowns
on civil rights violations, of course.
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"We should not march into Baghdad. ... Assigning young soldiers to
a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning
them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerilla war, it
could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater
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