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QuiGon

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:05 pm
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I am an impartial observer (my team didn't even make the playoffs), so I can
say the following without any bias whatsoever...

Cuban should STFU after all the generous calls he got during the Spurs
series. If anyone has been robbed this post-season, it was the Spurs.

The ONLY bad call from Sunday night's final minute was the refs really
shouldn't have charged Dallas a T.O. when Wade was getting ready for his 2nd
free throw attempt. It wasn't a situation where the ball was in play and
the refs were obligated to charge the timeout. They should have let common
sense rule and given Dallas a timeout after Wade's 2nd free throw.

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Frog

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:05 pm
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QuiGon wrote:

> Cuban should STFU after all the generous calls he got during the Spurs
> series. If anyone has been robbed this post-season, it was the Spurs.

This is America we have what we call "freedom of speech". Or would you
slap a 100 thousand dollar fine on someone for expressing their
opinion? Do you even know that the home team gets called more favorably
than the visiting team does, always? So, if you're going to talk about
good and bad officiating you have to take into account whos court they
are on.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:05 pm
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QuiGon wrote:
> I am an impartial observer (my team didn't even make the playoffs), so I can
> say the following without any bias whatsoever...
>

I don't mind if you lie, just don't get mad when I don't believe you.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:05 pm
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QuiGon wrote
> The ONLY bad call from Sunday night's final minute was the refs really
> shouldn't have charged Dallas a T.O. when Wade was getting ready for his 2nd
> free throw attempt.


Well there was that 1 phantom foul call at the end of overtime on
Nowitzki who didn't touch him on replays that bailed out Wade and sent
him to the line to tie and then give them the lead with 1.9 seconds
left.One could consider that a bad call.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:08 pm
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QuiGon wrote:

>
> Newsflash #2: An employer or league someone voluntary belongs to can
> regulate what members are and aren't allowed to say (and punish them
> accordingly when rules are violated). And if you don't believe me, then go
> into work tomorrow and call every black person you see the n-word. Then see
> how far your constitutional freedom of speech protects you from getting
> fired.


Um, last time I check Cuban IS an owner. He didn't yell fire in a
crowded theater and he didn't slam someone using a derogatory epithet.
He just stated the facts, that the officiating is inconsistent.



> Oh, I am the first to admit home court teams get more calls their way. But
> that's irrelevant to the point at hand.


No you weren't.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:11 pm
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QuiGon wrote:

> The ONLY bad call from Sunday night's final minute was the refs really
> shouldn't have charged Dallas a T.O. when Wade was getting ready for his 2nd
> free throw attempt. It wasn't a situation where the ball was in play and
> the refs were obligated to charge the timeout. They should have let common
> sense rule and given Dallas a timeout after Wade's 2nd free throw.


Avery was standing there doing the times out signal vigorously and that
was a bad call? You might want to lay down the crack pipe.
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QuiGon

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:53 pm
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"Frog" <froggyg DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> QuiGon wrote:
>
>> Cuban should STFU after all the generous calls he got during the Spurs
>> series. If anyone has been robbed this post-season, it was the Spurs.
>
> This is America we have what we call "freedom of speech".

Oh here we go again.... another idiot that has no clue what "freedom of
speech" really means... Newsflash #1: Freedom of speech does NOT mean you
can say anything you want to any time you want to with absolutely no
consequences whatsoever. Did the United States government fine him for
expressing his opinion..? No.

> Or would you
> slap a 100 thousand dollar fine on someone for expressing their
> opinion?

Newsflash #2: An employer or league someone voluntary belongs to can
regulate what members are and aren't allowed to say (and punish them
accordingly when rules are violated). And if you don't believe me, then go
into work tomorrow and call every black person you see the n-word. Then see
how far your constitutional freedom of speech protects you from getting
fired.

> Do you even know that the home team gets called more favorably
> than the visiting team does, always? So, if you're going to talk about
> good and bad officiating you have to take into account whos court they
> are on.

Oh, I am the first to admit home court teams get more calls their way. But
that's irrelevant to the point at hand. The 2 points I made and stand by
are:

1) Cuban should stop whining after all the horrible calls that benefitted
him against San Antonio, and
2) The only bad call in the closing moments of Sunday's game was the timeout
fiasco.
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Lee Watkins

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:47 pm
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Frog wrote:
> QuiGon wrote:
>
>
>>Newsflash #2: An employer or league someone voluntary belongs to can
>>regulate what members are and aren't allowed to say (and punish them
>>accordingly when rules are violated). And if you don't believe me, then go
>>into work tomorrow and call every black person you see the n-word. Then see
>>how far your constitutional freedom of speech protects you from getting
>>fired.
>
>
>
> Um, last time I check Cuban IS an owner.

yes......and your point is?

>He didn't yell fire in a
> crowded theater and he didn't slam someone using a derogatory epithet.
> He just stated the facts, that the officiating is inconsistent.
>


and thats a no-no in the NBA. why is this concept so difficult for mavs
fans?

lee
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*Mavs*

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:53 pm
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"QuiGon" <QuiGon RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I am an impartial observer (my team didn't even make the playoffs), so I
>can say the following without any bias whatsoever...
>
> Cuban should STFU after all the generous calls he got during the Spurs
> series. If anyone has been robbed this post-season, it was the Spurs.
>
> The ONLY bad call from Sunday night's final minute was the refs really
> shouldn't have charged Dallas a T.O. when Wade was getting ready for his
> 2nd free throw attempt. It wasn't a situation where the ball was in play
> and the refs were obligated to charge the timeout. They should have let
> common sense rule and given Dallas a timeout after Wade's 2nd free throw.


Yeah, that generous call when Jason Terry was sent home for a game.. The
Mavs got called for more fouls in that series than San Antonio did. Bottom
line.
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QuiGon

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:09 pm
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"Frog" <froggyg.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> QuiGon wrote:
>> I am an impartial observer (my team didn't even make the playoffs), so I
>> can
>> say the following without any bias whatsoever...
>>
>
> I don't mind if you lie, just don't get mad when I don't believe you.

Well, last time I checked the Celtics weren't in this year's NBA Finals...
So as long as the Lakers are gone, I can sit back and enjoy what has been
the best playoffs in years. I just calls' em as I sees 'em and biased fools
like you just hate to hear the truth.
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QuiGon

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:12 pm
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"captjim" <nt5n.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Is's evident that you didnt watch the game(s). I have all games on DVD if
> you would like to play them in slo-mo and count all the missed fouls that
> were committed by the Heat and the phantom calls on the Mavs.

Just like all those missed Mavs fouls against San Antonio and all those
phantom fouls called against San Antonio in the same games.

See your logical flaw is you are responding to something I didn't say. I
wasn't talking about the body of the game was I...? No, I wasn't. I was
simply referrring to the closing moments (where the bulk of the bitching and
moaning seems to be). The only bad call from the closing moments was the
time out fiasco. Deal with it.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:13 pm
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<imaginehappiness RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Well there was that 1 phantom foul call at the end of overtime on
> Nowitzki who didn't touch him on replays that bailed out Wade and sent
> him to the line to tie and then give them the lead with 1.9 seconds
> left.One could consider that a bad call.

Except Wade was fouled on that play - they just got the call wrong regarding
whom specifically did the fouling. That sort of thing happens in 99.9% of
NBA games played.
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