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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 11:00 am
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"We didn't think it was going to be an easy game coming in, and it
wasn't," Mavs coach Don Nelson said. "We knew it was going to be very
physical. It was a very emotional game. We battled our best, but we
just didn't have enough in the end."
"They made shots in overtime and we didn't," Nelson said. "We
struggled. We turned the ball over too much. We thought there should
have been fouls called, but they ended up being turnovers."
Mavs owner Mark Cuban was the most vocal critic. He pointed to at
least six instances of calls he felt were blown, including Dirk
Nowitzki's sixth foul and a critical out-of-bounds play that went to
the Grizzlies in overtime.
"I don't care if I get fined," a frustrated Cuban said in the locker
room after the loss. "Referees are having far too much impact on the
game."
Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
"It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
much impact?"
Nash said simply: "It was laughable."
"We lost the game in the last few minutes of regulation," Nash said.
"We certainly didn't get any help along the way, but we had our
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:07 pm
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> Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
> victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
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> "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
> much impact?"
Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean, has
Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
What a joke.
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> Nash said simply: "It was laughable."
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> "We lost the game in the last few minutes of regulation," Nash said.
> "We certainly didn't get any help along the way, but we had our
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:00 am
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>> Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
>> victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
>>
>> "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
>> much impact?"
>
> Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners?
Yep. And it resides in Sacto. Just imagine if Vlade was traded to Dallas.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:52 am
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>"We didn't think it was going to be an easy game coming in, and it
>wasn't," Mavs coach Don Nelson said. "We knew it was going to be very
>physical. It was a very emotional game. We battled our best, but we
>just didn't have enough in the end."
>
>"They made shots in overtime and we didn't," Nelson said. "We
>struggled. We turned the ball over too much. We thought there should
>have been fouls called, but they ended up being turnovers."
>
>Mavs owner Mark Cuban was the most vocal critic. He pointed to at
>least six instances of calls he felt were blown, including Dirk
>Nowitzki's sixth foul and a critical out-of-bounds play that went to
>the Grizzlies in overtime.
>
>"I don't care if I get fined," a frustrated Cuban said in the locker
>room after the loss. "Referees are having far too much impact on the
>game."
>
>Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
>victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
>
>"It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
>much impact?"
>
Trading Van Exel was crazy.
Rick Hohensee
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:32 am
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> > Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
> > victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
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> > "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
> > much impact?"
>
> Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean, has
> Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
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> What a joke.
Sacramento and Portland come to mind.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:32 am
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> > > http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/7276377.htm
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> > >>
> > > Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
> > > victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
> > >
> > > "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
> > > much impact?"
> >
> > Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean,
has
> > Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
> >
> > What a joke.
>
> Sacramento and Portland come to mind.
Sacramento yes, they are in the same league. Porty, no way, they don't
even whine as much as LA.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:19 pm
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:07:15 -0700, "TenKMan" <Fred.TakeThisOut@Fred.com> wrote:
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>> http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/7276377.htm
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>>>
>> Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
>> victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
>>
>> "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
>> much impact?"
>
>Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean, has
>Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
>
>What a joke.
>
Right now it is just Cuban, hasn't infected the players or Coach much.
Oh, they whine, but not any more than most coaches or players.
Dallas is at a crossroad-they can easily become like Portland and
Sacto, immensely talented, yet a losing, victim mentality. Cuban
really should just shut up, or complain about reffing across the
board, even when it hurts his team.
>>
>> Nash said simply: "It was laughable."
>>
>> "We lost the game in the last few minutes of regulation," Nash said.
>> "We certainly didn't get any help along the way, but we had our
>> chances."
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:22 pm
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>> > > http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/7276377.htm
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>> > >>
>> > > Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
>> > > victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
>> > >
>> > > "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
>> > > much impact?"
>> >
>> > Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean,
>has
>> > Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
>> >
>> > What a joke.
>>
>> Sacramento and Portland come to mind.
>
>Sacramento yes, they are in the same league. Porty, no way, they don't
>even whine as much as LA.
Portland has quieted down, but two or three years ago, they whined
with the best of them and highlighted the victim 'why are the refs
picking on me' mentality. Particularily Wallace and Stoudamire.
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>> -TemPeck
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:24 pm
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> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:07:15 -0700, "TenKMan" <Fred.DeleteThis@Fred.com> wrote:
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> >"s_knight8" <s_knight8.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/7276377.htm
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> >>>
> >> Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
> >> victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
> >>
> >> "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
> >> much impact?"
> >
> >Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean, has
> >Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
> >
> >What a joke.
> >
>
> Right now it is just Cuban, hasn't infected the players or Coach much.
marcus, please allow me to introduce you to the mavs' coach. his name is
don nelson.
> Oh, they whine, but not any more than most coaches or players.
this is true, the players stick to playing for the most part.
>
> Dallas is at a crossroad-they can easily become like Portland and
> Sacto, immensely talented, yet a losing, victim mentality. Cuban
> really should just shut up, or complain about reffing across the
> board, even when it hurts his team.
exactly. sadly, i think he really believes his own "the whole league is
against us" BS--i don't think it's just gamesmanship to put pressure on the
refs to go easy on his team.
> >>
> >> Nash said simply: "It was laughable."
> >>
> >> "We lost the game in the last few minutes of regulation," Nash said.
> >> "We certainly didn't get any help along the way, but we had our
> >> chances."
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:35 pm
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Agreed! LA takes the cake in terms of whining. Phil Jackson supposedly
teaches and encourages his players to work the refs on each and every call.
That's part of their overall plan and strategy in winning a game. Also,
Jackson himself is a master in working the refs.
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> > > >>
> > > > Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
> > > > victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
> > > >
> > > > "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
> > > > much impact?"
> > >
> > > Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean,
> has
> > > Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
> > >
> > > What a joke.
> >
> > Sacramento and Portland come to mind.
>
> Sacramento yes, they are in the same league. Porty, no way, they don't
> even whine as much as LA.
> >
> > -TemPeck
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:35 pm
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"cb" <cb DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Agreed! LA takes the cake in terms of whining. Phil Jackson supposedly
> teaches and encourages his players to work the refs on each and every
call.
> That's part of their overall plan and strategy in winning a game. Also,
> Jackson himself is a master in working the refs.
payton constantly complains on calls, malone is pretty vocal too. kobe was
the team leader in this dept until the new guys came along. really, the
rest of the team is pretty quiet in this regard, with occasional outbursts
from george and fisher.
jackson is one of the more sedate coaches in the league, he hardly stands up
let alone audibly complains to the refs. if he's "whining" then it's hard
to imagine what you'd call what the really vocal coaches (nelson, adelman,
popovich, etc).
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> > > > >>
> > > > > Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
> > > > > victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
> > > > >
> > > > > "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
> > > > > much impact?"
> > > >
> > > > Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean,
> > has
> > > > Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
> > > >
> > > > What a joke.
> > >
> > > Sacramento and Portland come to mind.
> >
> > Sacramento yes, they are in the same league. Porty, no way, they don't
> > even whine as much as LA.
> > >
> > > -TemPeck
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> > >
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:27 am
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>> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:07:15 -0700, "TenKMan" <Fred.DeleteThis@Fred.com> wrote:
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>> >"s_knight8" <s_knight8.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> >> http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/7276377.htm
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >> Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
>> >> victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
>> >>
>> >> "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
>> >> much impact?"
>> >
>> >Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean, has
>> >Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
>> >
>> >What a joke.
>> >
>>
>> Right now it is just Cuban, hasn't infected the players or Coach much.
>
>marcus, please allow me to introduce you to the mavs' coach. his name is
>don nelson.
>
Do you honestly think Nellie whines more than Phil Jackson???? Nellie
voices complaints during a game, as he is supposed to do, but he does
not whine after the game any more than any other coach, and less than
quite a few
>> Oh, they whine, but not any more than most coaches or players.
>
>this is true, the players stick to playing for the most part.
>
>>
>> Dallas is at a crossroad-they can easily become like Portland and
>> Sacto, immensely talented, yet a losing, victim mentality. Cuban
>> really should just shut up, or complain about reffing across the
>> board, even when it hurts his team.
>
>exactly. sadly, i think he really believes his own "the whole league is
>against us" BS--i don't think it's just gamesmanship to put pressure on the
>refs to go easy on his team.
>
Who knows-the thing is to not give your players a way out. Let them
think that losing is acceptable because the refs were against them-see
Portland and Sacto.
>> >>
>> >> Nash said simply: "It was laughable."
>> >>
>> >> "We lost the game in the last few minutes of regulation," Nash said.
>> >> "We certainly didn't get any help along the way, but we had our
>> >> chances."
>> >
>>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:27 am
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> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:24:08 -0800, "brink" <forget DeleteThis @about.it> wrote:
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> >> Right now it is just Cuban, hasn't infected the players or Coach
much.
> >
> >marcus, please allow me to introduce you to the mavs' coach. his
name is
> >don nelson.
> >
>
> Do you honestly think Nellie whines more than Phil Jackson???? Nellie
> voices complaints during a game, as he is supposed to do, but he does
> not whine after the game any more than any other coach, and less than
> quite a few
>
>
Nellie whines a 1000 times more than PJ after a game. You should hear
him every time they play Karl Malone. Sheesh, old man Nellie tried to
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:29 am
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>"cb" <cb.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Agreed! LA takes the cake in terms of whining. Phil Jackson supposedly
>> teaches and encourages his players to work the refs on each and every
>call.
>> That's part of their overall plan and strategy in winning a game. Also,
>> Jackson himself is a master in working the refs.
>
>payton constantly complains on calls, malone is pretty vocal too. kobe was
>the team leader in this dept until the new guys came along. really, the
>rest of the team is pretty quiet in this regard, with occasional outbursts
>from george and fisher.
>
>jackson is one of the more sedate coaches in the league, he hardly stands up
>let alone audibly complains to the refs. if he's "whining" then it's hard
>to imagine what you'd call what the really vocal coaches (nelson, adelman,
>popovich, etc).
>
Phil complains far more to the media and after games than most other
coaches. Call it gamesmanship if you would like, it is still
complaining. Pop and Nellie work the refs hard during the game, but
are not as apt to criticize them after the game.
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>> > > > >>
>> > > > > Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the Mavs'
>> > > > > victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have that
>> > > > > much impact?"
>> > > >
>> > > > Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I mean,
>> > has
>> > > > Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
>> > > >
>> > > > What a joke.
>> > >
>> > > Sacramento and Portland come to mind.
>> >
>> > Sacramento yes, they are in the same league. Porty, no way, they don't
>> > even whine as much as LA.
>> > >
>> > > -TemPeck
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
> >> Stay informed about: Cuban irate with officials in Mavs' overtime loss |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:29 am
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"Marcus Kwan" <mnospamkwan1 RemoveThis @gte.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:27:44 -0800, "brink" <forget RemoveThis @about.it> wrote:
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> >
> >"cb" <cb RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:Rx8ub.9137$My4.5471@news.cpqcorp.net...
> >> Agreed! LA takes the cake in terms of whining. Phil Jackson supposedly
> >> teaches and encourages his players to work the refs on each and every
> >call.
> >> That's part of their overall plan and strategy in winning a game. Also,
> >> Jackson himself is a master in working the refs.
> >
> >payton constantly complains on calls, malone is pretty vocal too. kobe
was
> >the team leader in this dept until the new guys came along. really, the
> >rest of the team is pretty quiet in this regard, with occasional
outbursts
> >from george and fisher.
> >
> >jackson is one of the more sedate coaches in the league, he hardly stands
up
> >let alone audibly complains to the refs. if he's "whining" then it's
hard
> >to imagine what you'd call what the really vocal coaches (nelson,
adelman,
> >popovich, etc).
> >
>
> Phil complains far more to the media and after games than most other
> coaches. Call it gamesmanship if you would like, it is still
> complaining. Pop and Nellie work the refs hard during the game, but
> are not as apt to criticize them after the game.
yep. phil probably doesn't want to look "bad" during the game by waving his
arms around and yelling at the refs. his style is much more "press
conference" where he gets to present his view without much challenge.
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> >>
> >> "TenKMan" <Fred RemoveThis @Fred.com> wrote in message
> >> news:NbudnbUH0774fCWi4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >> >
> >> > "Templeton Peck" <chestrockwell68 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:ll2ub.4551$n56.808@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> > >
> >> > > "TenKMan" <Fred RemoveThis @Fred.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:y8SdnSW7jubKjSWi4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "s_knight8" <s_knight8 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:6bd12cd6.0311161100.413838c7@posting.google.com...
> >> > > > > http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/basketball/7276377.htm
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > > Cuban spoke to the league office about officiating after the
Mavs'
> >> > > > > victory at San Antonio. Another call is surely coming.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "It was crazy. Absolutely crazy," he said. "How can they have
that
> >> > > > > much impact?"
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Is there any franchise that is so associated with whiners? I
mean,
> >> > has
> >> > > > Cuban ever criticized officials that helped his team win.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What a joke.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sacramento and Portland come to mind.
> >> >
> >> > Sacramento yes, they are in the same league. Porty, no way, they
don't
> >> > even whine as much as LA.
> >> > >
> >> > > -TemPeck
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >> Stay informed about: Cuban irate with officials in Mavs' overtime loss |
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