David Lee for Raymond Felton and 1st rounder

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Diamond Dave
<davidvsiegel.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>who esle heard this rumor

I have not heard this but, is this the best we can do??? I mean Felton
isnt bad but I thought we might get a little better for lee. Maybe I
am wrong.... Also Felton is smaller than I thought. He is listed at
6'1"

Here is his info... what do you guys think? Good or bad???
He averaged 7 assists... Could he would he do as good or better with
our Knicks?????

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/raymond_felton/index.html
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:07:33 -0700 (PDT), Noah
<dontsendmeyerspam.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 28, 6:43 pm, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is his info... what do you guys think? Good or bad???
>> He averaged 7 assists... Could he would he do as good or better with
>> our Knicks?????
>
>Looks like he has almost half as many turnovers as he has assists. I
>don't think I saw any Bobcats games last year, so I can't comment too
>much on him. What do they say about him on the Charlotte NG? Is
>there a Charlotte NG?
>

Should be but I have never had a reason to venture there. Guess that
will all change soon if this rumor persists.
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Syfo-Dyas:

> this rumor

Why do we need a new PG this season?

DG
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On Jun 28, 7:07 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 6:43 pm, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is his info... what do you guys think? Good or bad???
> > He averaged 7 assists... Could he would he do as good or better with
> > our Knicks?????
>
> Looks like he has almost half as many turnovers as he has assists. I
> don't think I saw any Bobcats games last year, so I can't comment too
> much on him. What do they say about him on the Charlotte NG? Is
> there a Charlotte NG

I had Felton on my fantasy team last season. He isn't the most
consistent PG but he does look to move the ball.
He also is pretty young and can still improve.
We could do a lot worse at PG.
Felton likely isn't an All Star, but I like the combo of youth and
team he seems to have. I really wondered why they Drafted Augustine
when Felto seemed to be coming along fine.
If you look at his game log from last season, he had some monster
games.
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On Jun 29, 9:44 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Glenn Greenstein:
>
> > I really wondered why they Drafted Augustine
> > when Felto seemed to be coming along fine.
>
> So, once again, could it be that his own team knows him better than we
> do/can?
>
> Bottom line: Is he the PG for the long term (assuming W/D' has a definition
> of that)? If not, other than salary considerations, what's the point?
>
> DG

There aren't really any salary considerations when talking about
swapping one rookie contract for another.

I can only speculate that the idea is to send cancer-boy packing with
a buyout and get him gone. If they do that, at the PG they
have...Jamal Crawford, Nate Robinson, and Mardy Collins, none of whom
are PGs.

On the other hand, while David Lee is probably better at his position
than Felton is at his, at the 4 on the Knicks they've got Zach
Randolph and Gallinari to play the 4, as well as all of the scrubs if
they're in a pinch (Rose, Randolph Morris etc). So I would guess that
W/D' is thinking it's better to have every base covered adequately
than have a shining light in one spot (the backup 4) and a gaping hole
in another (the starting PG). Which maks sense, but it does bring
into question how far a real blow-up is on the priority list.

Most of the time in the last two years' train wreck, when the Knicks
were vaguely competitive it was with their second unit (Robinson, Lee,
etc). I'd personally probably rather see them keep Lee and start
Jamal at the 1, Chandler at the 2, Richardson at the 3 (by default),
Lee at the 4 and Randolph at the 5. Bring Nate, Balkman, Gallinari
(if he really comes to NY) and either Curry or Randolph Morris off the
bench and there's your nine man rotation. If they lose, they lose.
In the meantime, they can keep trying to clear it out.

The right move for Lee, bearing the oh-so-important future in mind
that Walsh said he was committed to, is not a rook-for-rook swap. The
right move is "You can have David Lee, but you gotta take Jared
Jeffries or Eddy Curry and his contract with you". 'Cause when you
give up Lee, there's almost no way to trade anyone else.

Having instead Felton/Crawford/Richardson/Randolph/Curry with a
Robinson/Jeffries/Gallinari/Jerome James bench as your setup isn't
going to be that much better. It's going to be treading water in the
same dismal pool we've been in for some time now.
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Glenn Greenstein:

> I really wondered why they Drafted Augustine
> when Felto seemed to be coming along fine.

So, once again, could it be that his own team knows him better than we
do/can?

Bottom line: Is he the PG for the long term (assuming W/D' has a definition
of that)? If not, other than salary considerations, what's the point?

DG
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Noah:

> it does bring into question how far a real blow-up is on the priority list.

That's the point. What difference is there if the PG is Starbury or Felton
for the next season, if neither will be in the picture in the long run?

DG
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On Jun 30, 12:19 am, Dan Gaters <dan.gat....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:

> That's the point. What difference is there if the PG is Starbury or Felton
> for the next season, if neither will be in the picture in the long run?

The long run has to start somewhere, although I agree that Felton's a
dubious candidate.
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