Dirk says Kobe Is MVP

"Dayrl" <Dayrl.DeleteThis@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:Y4-dnTAIsuiZ-GTanZ2dnUVZ_oaonZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> <icemelter2.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e438df84-9eba-4f2d-b010-1bf329df4799@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 6, 2:13?pm, "Dayrl" <Da....DeleteThis@comcast.com> wrote:
>> "Miguel MB" <P....DeleteThis@yaho.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:yw%Jj.66$7q2.65@newsfe05.lga...
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Mine too. ?;-)
>>
>> > Well, what else do you expect DTMB to say? ?Seems like a very
>> > broad-view
>> > person.
>>
>> > "Black athletes accused of raping white women are guilty."
>>
>> > "People who post in a Laker newsgroup are Kobe fans."
>>
>> Nonetheless, he seemed guilty to me
>
>>Well, then we should all just forget the evidence and go by how it
>>"seemed" to you.
>
>
> No dumbass, I have the same evidence you do but the people that were there
> probably are the only ones that really know.
>
>>>and I know Laker fans wouldn't convict
>>> Kolby of anything. ?
>
>>Spelling his name wrong on purpose and your Lakers fans mock exposes
>>the reason why you have come to your amateur opinion.
>
> Maybe you could restate the above in English please.
>
>>>And I know Laurel is a Bailraisers fan and respect her
>>> but I disagree anyway. ?
>
>>Does everything have to have some kind of emotional attachment before
>>you can come deal with logic? Just look at the facts of the case and
>>then you would discover the real truth, not your imagined truth.
>
> Yea, he looked a hell of a lot more guilty than innocent. And if you
> weren't blinded by crazy fandom, you would see the same thing. Or maybe
> you are just naive, I don't know.

Laurel brought up quite a few legal sources that disagree with you and I
doubt any of them are Kobe or Laker fans. It seems to me the facts in the
case conflict with Faber's version of events much more so than Kobe's...
not only that, but reason... I do reserve some small doubts about Kobe,
that he could very well have been consciously guilty of rape, but it's
pretty insignificant IMO to the chance that Faber lied or was simply
mentally unstable to the point of not being to differentiate reality from
fiction and lies from truth.

It's your right to have a different standard for guilt but I happen to like
the US standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt," and I think this case didn't
even come *close* to that threshold.

brink

brink wrote:
> "Dayrl" <Dayrl DeleteThis @comcast.com> wrote in message

>>
>> Yea, he looked a hell of a lot more guilty than innocent. And if you
>> weren't blinded by crazy fandom, you would see the same thing. Or
>> maybe you are just naive, I don't know.
>
> Laurel brought up quite a few legal sources that disagree with you
> and I doubt any of them are Kobe or Laker fans. It seems to me the
> facts in the case conflict with Faber's version of events much more
> so than Kobe's...

The exact criteria along with how consistant the stories are that usually
used by a DA to go forward or not on a case.
Most of the legal experts were saying for months as the facts came out that
the DA had no real case.
Once she filed a law suit they all said it was pretty much over since now
her motive was also suspect.

>not only that, but reason... I do reserve some
> small doubts about Kobe, that he could very well have been
> consciously guilty of rape, but it's pretty insignificant IMO to the
> chance that Faber lied or was simply mentally unstable to the point
> of not being to differentiate reality from fiction and lies from
> truth.

FWIIW (not much since the interview with the reporter was on hannity's
radio show according to some blogger but this was new to me)
There was also a reporter that claimed he tried to get some court documents
unsealed.
Those were claimed to show she had accused other men of rape.
The records according to the story were sealed because she was under 18 at
the time.


>
> It's your right to have a different standard for guilt but I happen
> to like the US standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt," and I think
> this case didn't even come *close* to that threshold.

If it had been they would have forced her to testify instead of dropping the
case.
The DA could not get elected as dog catcher after wasting the money he did
on a weak case with a weak witness.


--
Laurel T
If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out."
- Will Rogers