8 out of 8 ESPN experts pick the Lakers

"Syfo-Dyas" <Syfo-Dyas.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:00:30 GMT, "Skeptic" <bcs002b.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>"Gary Collard" <dm.TakeThisOut@ddd.com> wrote in message
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>>> Skeptic wrote:
>>>> "Gary Collard" <dm.TakeThisOut@ddd.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%z%0k.1906$qP.1268@trnddc03...
>>>>> Skeptic wrote:
>>>>>> Two series that shouldn't have gone 7 games went 7 games. Both game
>>>>>> 7's were won. The next series the C's rebounded to win 2 out of 3
>>>>>> games on the road against the undeniably second best team in the
>>>>>> East.
>>>>>> The C's are back and LA really wont' have much of a chance in this
>>>>>> one.
>>>>> Then how did Detroit, not as good of a team as they face in the
>>>>> Finals,
>>>>> get it to 6?
>>>>
>>>> Detroit is a better team than the Lakers, imo.
>>>
>>> Not by your standards:
>>>
>>> LAL 69-28
>>> Det 69-30
>>>
>>> I'm shocked, shocked that you now reject your own "won-lost is all that
>>> matters" mantra.
>>
>>You're confusing yourself again.
>>
>>Clearly, you think LA would beat Detroit in a seven game series. I think
>>Detroit would beat LA. This is especially true since they would have had
>>homecourt. I am no Detroit fan, but I do think they get underrated year
>>after year.
>>
> Why??? Because they keep losing??? Ya think!!!
> Anyway the coach of your pistons got fired this morning and the
> players were put on notice......

Not *my* Pistons by an stretch of anyone's imagination. But yeah, I thought
Dumars' comments were very serious. I had a post on the C's NG after their
last loss to us basically suggesting they're going to need to make some
changes. The reason is what Dumars must be seeing - Boston, though an
"older" team, is still got another few years left as constituted. Boston
has a better team than Detroit. Detroit is also an older team and can't
afford to go the way of Orlando or other such teams... to wait, to improve
with younger players, and to have other teams worsen. They have a window to
win a second championship with that squad and it's closing, and that outlook
got real bleak this offseason with KG and Ray coming to Boston. So I
wouldn't be at all surprised to see a major change made.
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>> Ironside wrote:
>>> When you see how badly the Lakers exploit Kendrick Perkins "defense", it
>>> will be the Cs that need to "learn it fast". He cannot guard Gasol or
>>> Odom.
>>
>> Perkins is a fine defender, and a beastly rebounder. He can't begin to
>> guard Odom, but should compete with Gasol. Indeed, how much he can
>> punish the Lakers on the boards vs how fast he gets into foul trouble is
>> key, thus he is a jey guy in this series.
>
> Absolutely -- he really hurt the Lakers in their two matchups this year.
> Laker fans may be overlooking his importance but I guarantee PJ is not in
> his prep for this series.

PJ will probably some short but productive minutes again. He's a guy that
goes out and helps set a defensive tone.
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>> "Gary Collard" <dm.TakeThisOut@ddd.com> wrote in message
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>>> Ironside wrote:
>>>> When you see how badly the Lakers exploit Kendrick Perkins "defense",
>>>> it will be the Cs that need to "learn it fast". He cannot guard Gasol
>>>> or Odom.
>>>
>>> Perkins is a fine defender, and a beastly rebounder. He can't begin to
>>> guard Odom, but should compete with Gasol. Indeed, how much he can
>>> punish the Lakers on the boards vs how fast he gets into foul trouble is
>>> key, thus he is a jey guy in this series.
>>
>> Absolutely -- he really hurt the Lakers in their two matchups this year.
>> Laker fans may be overlooking his importance but I guarantee PJ is not in
>> his prep for this series.
>
> PJ will probably some short but productive minutes again. He's a guy that
> goes out and helps set a defensive tone.

"PJ" is "Phil Jackson" in my above post.

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On Jun 2, 3:45 pm, "newsreader" <m... RemoveThis @home.net> wrote:> Good sign
definately... They know better> >
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Sat, 31 May 2008 10:27:32 -0700 (PDT), Don Tiberone> > <s_knig...@my-
deja.com> wrote:> > >>I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign.> >
>>http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos> > >
I dont know if that is a good sign for the Lakers...> > Do you guys
have a preference in what team you want to win????> > Not what team is
going to win just who you prefer to win..- Hide quoted text -> > -
Show quoted text -these "experts" are wrong quite a bit
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celtsfan44 wrote:
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>> JK wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT), Ron <BigELilE05.RemoveThis@msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign.
>>>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos
>>>>> Really? Wow. 8 out of 8 is VERY surprising. Recognizing my being
>>>>> fan may
>>>>> obscure my view, at the ver worse I could see them splitting 4-4 or
>>>>> 5-3 in
>>>>> either direction. If I were betting on the series (and would thus
>>>>> be very
>>>>> objective), I'd bet on the Celtics. If I had to pick how many
>>>>> games, I'd
>>>>> say in 6 games. They'll win the first 2. Take one in LA. Win the
>>>>> first
>>>>> game back home.
>>>> 1 word why the Lakers win - Kobe
>>>
>>> 3 words why they won't - Garnett, Pierce, Allen.
>>>
>>> Here's another: depth
>>
>> Lakers are actually deeper, but Boston did shore up their bench over
>> the course of the year. Not that they always use it - PJB getting
>> time over Powe is just silly.
>
> Based upon how PJB played in his tune up games during the regular season
> and first half of the playoffs, I would agree with you. But PJ Brown
> started contributing and Rivers' faith in him ended up paying
> dividends. And just because of his length, I could see him getting
> some minutes against Gasol.

Yes, I would expect Powe more for vs Odom, or Turiaf if bench time.

> I know he has his critics and has made more then his fair share of dumb
> plays but Tony Allen not really returning to his pre-injury form hurts
> the Celtics. He was playing very well last year before blowing out his
> knee. Tony Allen, if healthy,. is really too small to guard Lebron James
> but he has enough size to do a pretty good job staying in front of
> Kobe. I question whether Posey is quick enough to do that.

That was my take, Allen would be the best-equipped to guard Kobe if he was
healthy, and thus would be dusted off for 15-20 minutes a game in this one.

Posey, like Pierce, will have to play well off him. Not that this is a bad
thing, you want him taking jumpers as opposed to driving and causing havoc.

> What should help the Celtics is that they should be able to use House
> and Cassell if necessary more against the Lakers and not get burnt as
> badly.

House and Farmar could torch each other, that could be entertaining for
over players.

> Depth should be a factor this series but unless someone gets hurt, it
> probably means a little less then usual because some of the games have
> extra time off between them.

Right, and long timeouts. I expect Boston to really ride their starters
hard in this one.

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Gary Collard wrote:
> Don Tiberone wrote:
>> I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign.
>>
>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos
>
> I keep seeing this posted, but Legler picked Boston
>

Legler's pick was one of two posted after the original eight.

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> Mike wrote:
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> >> Mike wrote:
> >>>>> Used to go to shoot pool at the place PP got stabbed. Had heard,
> >>>>> back then, that it was about who was waiting to get a table, and
> >>>>> who didn't want to wait.
> >>>>
> >>>> you heard wrong...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> I didn't read it on the net
> >>
> >> Where DID you read it then? Source?
> > Didn't read it anywhere.
> > Heard it from a reliable friend who was there. Bozo read what he's
> > been repeating on Google-I'm sure he's right. If it's on the net,
> > it's true. Right Bozo?
>
> No offense to your friend, but eyewitness accounts are notoriously
> unreliable. For one thing, people see things from different perspectives.

And react unpredictably.

> But whatever the cause of the beef, I'm sure you don't mean justify
> attempting to murder someone over it.
>
Of course not. Pierce and the perp are the only ones who know what really
happened. And they probably have widely divergent views, considering the
perp thought a murder was the right answer.
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> celtsfan44 wrote:
> > "Gary Collard" <dm RemoveThis @ddd.com> wrote in message
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> >> JK wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT), Ron <BigELilE05 RemoveThis @msn.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>> I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign.
> >>>>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos
> >>>>> Really? Wow. 8 out of 8 is VERY surprising. Recognizing my being
> >>>>> fan may
> >>>>> obscure my view, at the ver worse I could see them splitting 4-4 or
> >>>>> 5-3 in
> >>>>> either direction. If I were betting on the series (and would thus
> >>>>> be very
> >>>>> objective), I'd bet on the Celtics. If I had to pick how many
> >>>>> games, I'd
> >>>>> say in 6 games. They'll win the first 2. Take one in LA. Win the
> >>>>> first
> >>>>> game back home.
> >>>> 1 word why the Lakers win - Kobe
> >>>
> >>> 3 words why they won't - Garnett, Pierce, Allen.
> >>>
> >>> Here's another: depth
> >>
> >> Lakers are actually deeper, but Boston did shore up their bench over
> >> the course of the year. Not that they always use it - PJB getting
> >> time over Powe is just silly.
> >
> > Based upon how PJB played in his tune up games during the regular season
> > and first half of the playoffs, I would agree with you. But PJ Brown
> > started contributing and Rivers' faith in him ended up paying
> > dividends. And just because of his length, I could see him getting
> > some minutes against Gasol.
>
> Yes, I would expect Powe more for vs Odom, or Turiaf if bench time.
>
> > I know he has his critics and has made more then his fair share of dumb
> > plays but Tony Allen not really returning to his pre-injury form hurts
> > the Celtics. He was playing very well last year before blowing out his
> > knee. Tony Allen, if healthy,. is really too small to guard Lebron James
> > but he has enough size to do a pretty good job staying in front of
> > Kobe. I question whether Posey is quick enough to do that.
>
> That was my take, Allen would be the best-equipped to guard Kobe if he was
> healthy, and thus would be dusted off for 15-20 minutes a game in this
one.
>
> Posey, like Pierce, will have to play well off him. Not that this is a
bad
> thing, you want him taking jumpers as opposed to driving and causing
havoc.
>
> > What should help the Celtics is that they should be able to use House
> > and Cassell if necessary more against the Lakers and not get burnt as
> > badly.
>
> House and Farmar could torch each other, that could be entertaining for
> over players.
>
> > Depth should be a factor this series but unless someone gets hurt, it
> > probably means a little less then usual because some of the games have
> > extra time off between them.
>
> Right, and long timeouts. I expect Boston to really ride their starters
> hard in this one.
>
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> apparently bad for children but OK for adults." -- Thomas Sowell
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>>> "Gary Collard" <dm.RemoveThis@ddd.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Ironside wrote:
>>>>> When you see how badly the Lakers exploit Kendrick Perkins
>>>>> "defense", it will be the Cs that need to "learn it fast". He
>>>>> cannot guard Gasol or Odom.
>>>>
>>>> Perkins is a fine defender, and a beastly rebounder. He can't begin
>>>> to guard Odom, but should compete with Gasol. Indeed, how much he
>>>> can punish the Lakers on the boards vs how fast he gets into foul
>>>> trouble is key, thus he is a jey guy in this series.
>>>
>>> Absolutely -- he really hurt the Lakers in their two matchups this
>>> year. Laker fans may be overlooking his importance but I guarantee PJ
>>> is not in his prep for this series.
>>
>> PJ will probably some short but productive minutes again. He's a guy
>> that goes out and helps set a defensive tone.
>
> "PJ" is "Phil Jackson" in my above post.

If PJ Brown is in the game, it's a fair matchup to put our own PJ in.

Always hated the guy as a player, he was kind of an enforcer type for some
loathsome Knicks teams. And he just looked goofy, with the long curly hair
and the bird legs and arms flying everywhere.

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Santa Claus nevertheless think it is all right to tell adults to
believe that the government can give the whole population things
that we cannot afford ourselves. Believing in Santa Claus is
apparently bad for children but OK for adults." -- Thomas Sowell
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Raymond DeCampo wrote:
> Gary Collard wrote:
>> Don Tiberone wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign.
>>>
>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos
>>
>> I keep seeing this posted, but Legler picked Boston
>>
>
> Legler's pick was one of two posted after the original eight.

Ahhh...

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Santa Claus nevertheless think it is all right to tell adults to
believe that the government can give the whole population things
that we cannot afford ourselves. Believing in Santa Claus is
apparently bad for children but OK for adults." -- Thomas Sowell
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> "Don Tiberone" <s_knight8 DeleteThis @my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign.
>>
>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos
>
> its tenth ring time for phil...
>
> unless gasol or odom goes down with a major injury the lakers got this
> thing
> on lock...

did they lose the key?
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>> On May 31, 1:27 pm, Don Tiberone <s_knig... RemoveThis @my-deja.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if that's a good or bad sign.
>>>
>>> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos
>>
>> I'm an ESPN expert also, so make that 9 of 9.
>
> might as well make that an even ten...
>
> so there, no need to even play... just send the trophy on over... :-)
>
> wouldnt be any fun in that though, i want to see the boys destroy the
> smelts...

It's good to want.
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"Old_Golden_Throat" <chick_hearn_3338.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Each probably made his own pick without knowledge about anyone
> else's. They just happened to all pick the Lakers.
>
> It's a bit disturbing, but the Lakers have earned this position as
> favorites with their play up to this point. Based on recent data and
> information, there's little reason not to go with the Lakers.

Believe the lie.
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