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Bucky

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:16 am
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40% MJ free throw line
30% Vince Carter between legs
17% Spud Webb
8% Dr J free throw line
5% Dominique's windmill

How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups. That
should severely dilute the significance of the dunk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line

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Granville Waiters' Ghost

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:17 am
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In article <1171617417.720225.325600 RemoveThis @k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Bucky" <uw_badgers RemoveThis @email.com> wrote:

> 40% MJ free throw line
> 30% Vince Carter between legs
> 17% Spud Webb
> 8% Dr J free throw line
> 5% Dominique's windmill
>
> How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
> very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
> contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
> later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups. That
> should severely dilute the significance of the dunk.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line


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Michael Fletcher

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:17 am
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Granville Waiters' Ghost wrote:
> In article <1171617417.720225.325600.RemoveThis@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Bucky" <uw_badgers.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote:
>
>
>>40% MJ free throw line
>>30% Vince Carter between legs
>>17% Spud Webb
>>8% Dr J free throw line
>>5% Dominique's windmill
>>
>>How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
>>very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
>>contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
>>later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups. That
>>should severely dilute the significance of the dunk.
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line
>
>
>
> [ cat picture with funny caption ]

Dude, check it out -- we're posting in the Clipper ng.

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MF

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to
get its pants on."
~ Sir Winston Churchill
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Etienne von Wettingfeld

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:26 am
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In article <1171617417.720225.325600.DeleteThis@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Bucky" <uw_badgers.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote:

> Moreover, Brent Barry also did it later... who is white... and did
> it while wearing his warmups. That should severely dilute the
> significance of the dunk.

Why did he wear all that stuff? One might think he was hiding something,
something that gave him extra lift.

Anyway, I think it looked very silly. He looked like a streetball player
in the winter.

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Granville Waiters' Ghost

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:06 am
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In article <45D5878D.10107.DeleteThis@serverart.com>,
Michael Fletcher <mfletcher.DeleteThis@serverart.com> wrote:

> Granville Waiters' Ghost wrote:
> > In article <1171617417.720225.325600.DeleteThis@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Bucky" <uw_badgers.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>40% MJ free throw line
> >>30% Vince Carter between legs
> >>17% Spud Webb
> >>8% Dr J free throw line
> >>5% Dominique's windmill
> >>
> >>How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
> >>very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
> >>contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
> >>later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups. That
> >>should severely dilute the significance of the dunk.
> >>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line
> >
> >
> >
> > [ cat picture with funny caption ]
>
> Dude, check it out -- we're posting in the Clipper ng.


There's something unwholesome about a Clippers' newsgroup.

If I didn't know any better, I'd think this was bat country.
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Kurt Straub

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:27 pm
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I still like the last one Andre Ig did. I've watched and watched it, still
can't figure out how he did it. My best theory is that somehow he made his
head go through the backboard.

---- Kurt Straub

"Bucky" <uw_badgers DeleteThis @email.com> wrote in message
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> 40% MJ free throw line
> 30% Vince Carter between legs
> 17% Spud Webb
> 8% Dr J free throw line
> 5% Dominique's windmill
>
> How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
> very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
> contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
> later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups. That
> should severely dilute the significance of the dunk.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line
>
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Mr Black

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:50 pm
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"Bucky" <uw_badgers.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message
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> 40% MJ free throw line
> 30% Vince Carter between legs
> 17% Spud Webb
> 8% Dr J free throw line
> 5% Dominique's windmill
>
> How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
> very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
> contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
> later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups.

....and it was further back than Jordan's, and he did it twice!
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Frank Rizzo

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:00 pm
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On Feb 16, 1:16 am, "Bucky" <uw_badg....TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote:
> 40% MJ free throw line
> 30% Vince Carter between legs
> 17% Spud Webb
> 8% Dr J free throw line
> 5% Dominique's windmill
>
> How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
> very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
> contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
> later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups. That
> should severely dilute the significance of the dunk.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line

The real question is how Spud Webb is even in there at all. Yes he
had mad hops, but his dunks by comparison were not as acrobatic or
exciting or as difficult of any of Dominiques in the finals against
Jordan in 84. More recently Jason Richardson has had some INSANE
dunks when he went back to back. Also, Vince Carters dunk when he put
his elbow inside the rim was more impressive than any of those
mentioned. I guess it is a matter of taste, and also a matter of
being susceptible to the hype.

Rizzo
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Dov'e' Google Alpha?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:51 am
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On Feb 16, 4:16 am, "Bucky" <uw_badg....RemoveThis@email.com> wrote:
> 40% MJ free throw line
> 30% Vince Carter between legs

I think Carter's reverse 360 was better.
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Etienne von Wettingfeld

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:06 am
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In article <1171782056.750786.321770.DeleteThis@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Frank Rizzo" <champ91917.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line
>
> The real question is how Spud Webb is even in there at all. Yes he
> had mad hops, but his dunks by comparison were not as acrobatic or
> exciting or as difficult of any of Dominiques in the finals against
> Jordan in 84. More recently Jason Richardson has had some INSANE
> dunks when he went back to back. Also, Vince Carters dunk when he put
> his elbow inside the rim was more impressive than any of those
> mentioned. I guess it is a matter of taste, and also a matter of
> being susceptible to the hype.

Spud had amazing leaping ability, but he wasn't above the rim. He needed
very good timing to pull some of those dunk off. Players like Carter and
Richardson need less precise timing because their leaping compensates.

Spud was just a small kid with small arms that had to hope there was a
ball at the end of the leap.

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Frank Rizzo

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:50 pm
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On Feb 16, 1:16 am, "Bucky" <uw_badg... RemoveThis @email.com> wrote:
> 40% MJ free throw line
> 30% Vince Carter between legs
> 17% Spud Webb
> 8% Dr J free throw line
> 5% Dominique's windmill
>
> How did MJ's free throw line dunk win? Yes, a free throw line dunk is
> very impressive, but he was not the first to do it in the slam dunk
> contest. Dr J had already done it. Moreover, Brent Barry also did it
> later... who is white... and did it while wearing his warmups. That
> should severely dilute the significance of the dunk.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Slam_Dunk_Contest#Free_throw_line

I don't understand where skin color has anything to do with it..

Rizzo
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Bucky

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:39 am
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On Feb 19, 12:50 pm, "Frank Rizzo" <champ91....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't understand where skin color has anything to do with it..

Because if you look at the distribution of African-American NBA
players vs Caucasian NBA players, the African-American NBA players are
far superior dunkers than the Caucasian players.

Does this mean that all Caucasian players can't dunk? No.
Does this mean that all African-American players are great dunkers?
No.
Does this mean that a Caucasian player can't be a better dunker than
an African-American player? No.

But you take a player who is at "x" percentile of dunking ability of
all Caucasian NBA players and compare to a player who is at "x"
percentile of dunking ability of all African-American NBA players, the
African-American player will almost certainly be the better dunker.

Believe me, I'm all for treating everyone equally and everyone having
equal rights regardless of skin color. But to ignore differences
between races is not the solution.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:29 am
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On Feb 20, 4:39 am, "Bucky" <uw_badg....TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 12:50 pm, "Frank Rizzo" <champ91....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't understand where skin color has anything to do with it..
>
> Because if you look at the distribution of African-American NBA
> players vs Caucasian NBA players, the African-American NBA players are
> far superior dunkers than the Caucasian players.
>
> Does this mean that all Caucasian players can't dunk? No.
> Does this mean that all African-American players are great dunkers?
> No.
> Does this mean that a Caucasian player can't be a better dunker than
> an African-American player? No.
>
> But you take a player who is at "x" percentile of dunking ability of
> all Caucasian NBA players and compare to a player who is at "x"
> percentile of dunking ability of all African-American NBA players, the
> African-American player will almost certainly be the better dunker.
>
> Believe me, I'm all for treating everyone equally and everyone having
> equal rights regardless of skin color. But to ignore differences
> between races is not the solution.

You're kind of going in two directions here. At this point you're
saying that a white guy can indeed be a better dunker than a black
guy. But the original point was that if one single white guy can do a
particular dunk, then that demonstrates that the dunk cannot be that
difficult.
Unless the point was that he did it in his warm-ups, in which case
ignore this.
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