Eddie Griffin

batface wrote:
> Why isn't Eddie playing? Is he in the doghouse or what?

It seems that Eddie is up to his old (and bad) tricks, and has fallen
off of the drug wagon. Sad, really.

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On 3 Mar 2006 15:33:00 -0800, "unclejr" <watsona RemoveThis @kenyon.edu> wrote:

>batface wrote:
>> Why isn't Eddie playing? Is he in the doghouse or what?
>
>It seems that Eddie is up to his old (and bad) tricks, and has fallen
>off of the drug wagon. Sad, really.

Has this gotten any press or been mentioned anywhere?

I haven't seen anything to indicate that is why he's not playing.





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S. Smith wrote:
> On 3 Mar 2006 15:33:00 -0800, "unclejr" <watsona DeleteThis @kenyon.edu> wrote:
>
> >batface wrote:
> >> Why isn't Eddie playing? Is he in the doghouse or what?
> >
> >It seems that Eddie is up to his old (and bad) tricks, and has fallen
> >off of the drug wagon. Sad, really.
>
> Has this gotten any press or been mentioned anywhere?
>
> I haven't seen anything to indicate that is why he's not playing.

<grin> Maybe Junior mistook him for Anthony Carter...

Re Eddie Griffin, I have opined before that I thought there was
a pretty good chance that he's fallen off the wagon. But usually
there's some "little push" leading up to that fall, and here's an
idea for what might be at the root of EG's problems - whether it's
something "simply" personal with Casey and/or McHale, not
getting it done in practice, or if indeed he's gone back to some
of his counterproductive behaviors.

I was watching a tape of the Jan 4th game vs Dallas. Marny
Gellner did a little report on Eddie and she stated that EG
said that he considered himself to be a power forward, NOT a
center -- but that he was doing the best he could to fit in here.

Now, of course I'm not saying that a single statement like
that is why Eddie's in the doghouse, but something more
like having that attitude may have a great deal to do with
what he produces in practice. And if taken to extreme...well,
you know his history.

Oh, and for the record, I think he's right about not being a
center. Same goes for Madsen, but I detect a certain difference
in attitude about the situation they both find themselves in.
Don't you?
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On 4 Mar 2006 10:36:45 -0800, "levi" <levi.DeleteThis@visi.com> wrote:

>S. Smith wrote:
>> On 3 Mar 2006 15:33:00 -0800, "unclejr" <watsona.DeleteThis@kenyon.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >batface wrote:
>> >> Why isn't Eddie playing? Is he in the doghouse or what?
>> >
>> >It seems that Eddie is up to his old (and bad) tricks, and has fallen
>> >off of the drug wagon. Sad, really.
>>
>> Has this gotten any press or been mentioned anywhere?
>>
>> I haven't seen anything to indicate that is why he's not playing.
>
><grin> Maybe Junior mistook him for Anthony Carter...
>
>Re Eddie Griffin, I have opined before that I thought there was
>a pretty good chance that he's fallen off the wagon. But usually
>there's some "little push" leading up to that fall, and here's an
>idea for what might be at the root of EG's problems - whether it's
>something "simply" personal with Casey and/or McHale, not
>getting it done in practice, or if indeed he's gone back to some
>of his counterproductive behaviors.
>
>I was watching a tape of the Jan 4th game vs Dallas. Marny
>Gellner did a little report on Eddie and she stated that EG
>said that he considered himself to be a power forward, NOT a
>center -- but that he was doing the best he could to fit in here.
>
>Now, of course I'm not saying that a single statement like
>that is why Eddie's in the doghouse, but something more
>like having that attitude may have a great deal to do with
>what he produces in practice. And if taken to extreme...well,
>you know his history.

True...but a bad attitude alone doesn't necessarily mean he's
fallen off the wagon and is back to doing drugs.

So am I to assume that Junior's remark was nothing but pure
speculation?

>Oh, and for the record, I think he's right about not being a
>center. Same goes for Madsen, but I detect a certain difference
>in attitude about the situation they both find themselves in.
>Don't you?

Yes, I agree there is a world of difference between the two.

Whatever the reasons may be, both Eddie and Casey need to
get over it and Eddie needs to start getting some playing time
again. The Wolves aren't out of the playoff picture just yet, IMO.





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I can live with Eddie sitting if indeed he is relapsing, but just don't
play that stink pot Blount.
Give the minutes to Madsen/Reed in a small lineup if necessary. Send
blount to that big person school
now rather than the summer, and see if he can get the foot work, hand
eye connection thing to work,
all though I would not hold my breath.

The playoffs are only a possibility if we catch Denver, frankly
catching Denver would almost be satisfaction
enough for me as a fan.
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S. Smith wrote:
> On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote:
>
> >I can live with Eddie sitting if indeed he is relapsing
>
> I still haven't heard or read anything *factual* regarding a
> "relapse" with drugs for Eddie.

That's entirely correct. To me, it's just one possibility
that seems to explain the curious matter of EG's lack
of playing time.

>
> So far the only thing I've read regarding a drug "relapse" is
> speculation from a couple people here, which I really don't
> think qualifies as an inside source. Far from it, actually.
>
> I have read a couple things regarding disagreements between
> Eddie and Casey about Eddie's role on the team this season.
> That sounds a little more likely to me as the basis for Eddie's
> recent lack of playing time.

Which, as I pointed out, *could* be a basis for a relapse
of his substance abuse. And that's how, in the past,
Eddie tried to deal with depression - another aspect
of EG's past.

>
> I'm going to the game tomorrow, with seats nice and
> close to the Wolves bench. I'll be watching the interaction
> between Eddie and Casey for more clues into this little
> "mystery".

Have a good time. <grin> Watch out for flying objects.
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On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:

>I can live with Eddie sitting if indeed he is relapsing

I still haven't heard or read anything *factual* regarding a
"relapse" with drugs for Eddie.

So far the only thing I've read regarding a drug "relapse" is
speculation from a couple people here, which I really don't
think qualifies as an inside source. Far from it, actually.

I have read a couple things regarding disagreements between
Eddie and Casey about Eddie's role on the team this season.
That sounds a little more likely to me as the basis for Eddie's
recent lack of playing time.

I'm going to the game tomorrow, with seats nice and
close to the Wolves bench. I'll be watching the interaction
between Eddie and Casey for more clues into this little
"mystery".




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On 4 Mar 2006 17:16:19 -0800, "levi" <levi.TakeThisOut@visi.com> wrote:

>S. Smith wrote:
>> On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I can live with Eddie sitting if indeed he is relapsing
>>
>> I still haven't heard or read anything *factual* regarding a
>> "relapse" with drugs for Eddie.
>
>That's entirely correct. To me, it's just one possibility
>that seems to explain the curious matter of EG's lack
>of playing time.

Yes, ONE reason out of several possible reasons.

>> So far the only thing I've read regarding a drug "relapse" is
>> speculation from a couple people here, which I really don't
>> think qualifies as an inside source. Far from it, actually.
>>
>> I have read a couple things regarding disagreements between
>> Eddie and Casey about Eddie's role on the team this season.
>> That sounds a little more likely to me as the basis for Eddie's
>> recent lack of playing time.
>
>Which, as I pointed out, *could* be a basis for a relapse
>of his substance abuse. And that's how, in the past,
>Eddie tried to deal with depression - another aspect
>of EG's past.

True, but it's still no reason to think that is what's going
on now.

>> I'm going to the game tomorrow, with seats nice and
>> close to the Wolves bench. I'll be watching the interaction
>> between Eddie and Casey for more clues into this little
>> "mystery".
>
>Have a good time. <grin> Watch out for flying objects.

I would hope that if I got hit in the face with a ball that I'd
get to keep the ball, and maybe get it autographed by the
player that pasted me. Unless it was Kobe...THEN there
would be a lawsuit and press conference. ;-)




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S. Smith wrote:
> On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote:
>
> >I can live with Eddie sitting if indeed he is relapsing
>
> I still haven't heard or read anything *factual* regarding a
> "relapse" with drugs for Eddie.
>
> So far the only thing I've read regarding a drug "relapse" is
> speculation from a couple people here, which I really don't
> think qualifies as an inside source. Far from it, actually.

It's too bad people will resort to such unwarranted speculation.

> I have read a couple things regarding disagreements between
> Eddie and Casey about Eddie's role on the team this season.
> That sounds a little more likely to me as the basis for Eddie's
> recent lack of playing time.

Casey seems to be getting a little too personal when doling out
minutes. He should be playing his best players, not using PT as
punishment for players who speak there minds. Jaric and EG, for better
or worse, are two of the top five players on the team, and the record
would probably be a little better if Casey knew how to use them
properly.

> I'm going to the game tomorrow, with seats nice and
> close to the Wolves bench. I'll be watching the interaction
> between Eddie and Casey for more clues into this little
> "mystery".
>
>
>
>
> - Scott Smith: scott DeleteThis @sludgereport.org
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On 5 Mar 2006 21:47:43 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
<ikrushlots.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:

>
>S. Smith wrote:
>> On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I can live with Eddie sitting if indeed he is relapsing
>>
>> I still haven't heard or read anything *factual* regarding a
>> "relapse" with drugs for Eddie.
>>
>> So far the only thing I've read regarding a drug "relapse" is
>> speculation from a couple people here, which I really don't
>> think qualifies as an inside source. Far from it, actually.
>
>It's too bad people will resort to such unwarranted speculation.

Yep. Especially when there isn't a shred of proof to back it up.

From the game we saw yesterday, Eddie seemed to be back to
playing fine and being his normal self. The 2 blocks were sweet.
Hopefully Casey will start to split the minutes between Blount and
Griffin now.

I think this whole thing was probably a head game by Casey to use
Blount to show Eddie that he has another center if he needs one.
The problem is, we all know the Wolves will need both Blount and
Eddie sharing minutes at the center position in order to be
competitive.

>> I have read a couple things regarding disagreements between
>> Eddie and Casey about Eddie's role on the team this season.
>> That sounds a little more likely to me as the basis for Eddie's
>> recent lack of playing time.
>
>Casey seems to be getting a little too personal when doling out
>minutes. He should be playing his best players, not using PT as
>punishment for players who speak there minds. Jaric and EG, for better
>or worse, are two of the top five players on the team, and the record
>would probably be a little better if Casey knew how to use them
>properly.

Casey seems to be one of those coaches who uses playing
time to punish his players for talking back or missing practices,
etc. He needs to stop that now, IMO.

>> I'm going to the game tomorrow, with seats nice and
>> close to the Wolves bench. I'll be watching the interaction
>> between Eddie and Casey for more clues into this little
>> "mystery".

From our vantage point, everything appears to be back to
normal with Eddie and Casey. Eddie looked clear headed and
ready to play when his number was called.

KG had a MONSTER game! In fact, all the starters looked
pretty decent. Even McCants looked OK from the bench...
as long as he wasn't trying to hit three-pointers, ugh. It's
nice to see Banks starting and doing an OK job holding down
that role.

These next two games are important ones against Houston and
Utah...the Wolves need to get up a few games on these teams
in the West to climb back into playoff contention. I still think they
can do it.




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>It's too bad people will resort to such unwarranted speculation.

>Yep. Especially when there isn't a shred of proof to back it up.

Well aren't you two holier than holy. Errrrr, if there wasn't
warrantless speculation, there wouldn't be usenet, so
to keep your saintly status, you two better stop posting or you'll wind
up in hell with the rest of us.

Speculation is what this thing is about unless you are on the payroll
of the club. Speculation is all that it is,
it's not a defamation of anyone. The entire EG episode was perfect
fodder for newgroup speculation because it
was either Eddie had a personal problem that was making Casey sit him
for so many games in a row, or
Casey was a Captain Queeg like character, being psychotically punative
with a kid that from all reports
has a fragile psyche. Ikrush, weren't you the one that endorsed booing
the guy when the club decided to
carry him out of the stands after being struck by the ball, and his 7
year old was crying?

Smith this one from you is hillarious:

>I think this whole thing was probably a head game by Casey to use
>Blount to show Eddie that he has another center if he needs one.
>The problem is, we all know the Wolves will need both Blount and
>Eddie sharing minutes at the center position in order to be
>competitive.

If that was the plan by Casey it was completely wrong headed, because
every
portion of a second Blount is on the floor it proved he is not only NOT
a CENTER,
he's not a BASKETBALL PLAYER............(feeling light headed and
woozy......)
He's just a 7'!" clueless civilian that security should send back in
the stands,
and try to figure out how he got a uniform with his name on it.
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On 6 Mar 2006 15:19:43 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote:

>>It's too bad people will resort to such unwarranted speculation.
>
>>Yep. Especially when there isn't a shred of proof to back it up.
>
>Well aren't you two holier than holy.

Not even the slightest bit, actually.

>Errrrr, if there wasn't
>warrantless speculation, there wouldn't be usenet, so
>to keep your saintly status, you two better stop posting or you'll wind
>up in hell with the rest of us.

Personally, I don't believe in fairy tales or metaphysical mumbo
jumbo, so I'm not too worried where I'll end up when it's all over.

>Speculation is what this thing is about unless you are on the payroll
>of the club. Speculation is all that it is, it's not a defamation of anyone.

As long as people are clear that they are purely speculating, and
don't try to pawn it off as fact (like Junior did) then I don't have a
problem with it, because speculation doesn't really mean much,
especially on Usenet, IMO.

>Smith this one from you is hillarious:
>
>>I think this whole thing was probably a head game by Casey to use
>>Blount to show Eddie that he has another center if he needs one.
>>The problem is, we all know the Wolves will need both Blount and
>>Eddie sharing minutes at the center position in order to be
>>competitive.
>
>If that was the plan by Casey it was completely wrong headed

I would agree with that statement.

>because every portion of a second Blount is on the floor it proved he
>is not only NOT a CENTER, he's not a BASKETBALL PLAYER............
>(feeling light headed and woozy......)

Sit back and chill for a moment, Northsider, I'm sure it will pass. ;)





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ADH Northsider wrote:
> because every portion of a second Blount is on the floor it proved he is not only NOT
> a CENTER, he's not a BASKETBALL PLAYER............(feeling light headed and
> woozy......) He's just a 7'!" clueless civilian that security should send back in
> the stands, and try to figure out how he got a uniform with his name on it.

You are going to eat those wurdz when Blount gets enshrined in
Springfield, MA in 20 years. <gp>

-Junior
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