Eddie Griffin

levi wrote:
> S. Smith wrote:
> > On 7 Mar 2006 08:50:07 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
> > <ikrushlots.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >levi wrote:
> > >> S. Smith wrote:
> > >> > On 5 Mar 2006 21:47:43 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
> > >> > <ikrushlots.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >S. Smith wrote:
> > >> > > On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Casey seems to be getting a little too personal when doling out
> > >> > >minutes. He should be playing his best players, not using PT as
> > >> > >punishment for players who speak there minds. Jaric and EG, for better
> > >> > >or worse, are two of the top five players on the team, and the record
> > >> > >would probably be a little better if Casey knew how to use them
> > >> > >properly.
> > >> >
> > >> > Casey seems to be one of those coaches who uses playing
> > >> > time to punish his players for talking back or missing practices,
> > >> > etc. He needs to stop that now, IMO.
> > >>
> > >> I think that this line of thought is just as much
> > >> "unwarranted speculation" as anything I've suggested
> > >> that *may* be going on with Eddie G.
> > >
> > >Not even close. We've seen three instances where players have come
> > >out, spoken their minds and have subsequently been benched even though
> > >they are better than the players replacing them.
>
> Huh? Who are you talking about?

His dealings with EG/Jaric/McCants.

> > >The inference that
> > >Casey is getting personal with his minutes is certainly plausible.
> > >There is absolutely *nothing* to infer that EG has "fallen off the
> > >wagon". If his play had dropped off dramatically, he was missing
> > >practices and/or was acting strange, then a legit inference could be
> > >made.
> >
> >
> > Agreed. I saw NOTHING to indicate that the lack of Eddie's
> > playing time had anything to do with drug use by Eddie.
> >
> > We have seen other examples of Casey not playing guys because
> > of various reasons.
> >
> > So, I think it's more rational to speculate that Eddie was benched
> > by Casey for speaking his mind, or as an attempt by Casey to
> > "motivate" Eddie, rather than anything else, IMO.
>
> Whatever Casey's motives are, according to this
> article, he has never talked to Eddie about the whys
> and what to change.
>
> http://www.startribune.com/511/story/289724.html

If EG is telling the truth, that's another ding against Casey as a
coach. How can you bench a guy and not tell him why and how to
improve.

> And you gotta love the revelation that Eddie is
> just a little out-of focus all the time. Geez,
> what do they cover in those physicals?

And why are they waiting until after the season to correct it? He
should either wear goggles or get the procedure done. Recovery time is
about 1-2 weeks, which would have been fine since he was benched anyway.
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On 7 Mar 2006 11:19:58 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
<ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:

>levi wrote:
>> S. Smith wrote:
>> > On 7 Mar 2006 08:50:07 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
>> > <ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >levi wrote:
>> > >> S. Smith wrote:
>> > >> > On 5 Mar 2006 21:47:43 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
>> > >> > <ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >S. Smith wrote:
>> > >> > > On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >Casey seems to be getting a little too personal when doling out
>> > >> > >minutes. He should be playing his best players, not using PT as
>> > >> > >punishment for players who speak there minds. Jaric and EG, for better
>> > >> > >or worse, are two of the top five players on the team, and the record
>> > >> > >would probably be a little better if Casey knew how to use them
>> > >> > >properly.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Casey seems to be one of those coaches who uses playing
>> > >> > time to punish his players for talking back or missing practices,
>> > >> > etc. He needs to stop that now, IMO.
>> > >>
>> > >> I think that this line of thought is just as much
>> > >> "unwarranted speculation" as anything I've suggested
>> > >> that *may* be going on with Eddie G.
>> > >
>> > >Not even close. We've seen three instances where players have come
>> > >out, spoken their minds and have subsequently been benched even though
>> > >they are better than the players replacing them.
>>
>> Huh? Who are you talking about?
>
>His dealings with EG/Jaric/McCants.
>
>> > >The inference that
>> > >Casey is getting personal with his minutes is certainly plausible.
>> > >There is absolutely *nothing* to infer that EG has "fallen off the
>> > >wagon". If his play had dropped off dramatically, he was missing
>> > >practices and/or was acting strange, then a legit inference could be
>> > >made.
>> >
>> >
>> > Agreed. I saw NOTHING to indicate that the lack of Eddie's
>> > playing time had anything to do with drug use by Eddie.
>> >
>> > We have seen other examples of Casey not playing guys because
>> > of various reasons.
>> >
>> > So, I think it's more rational to speculate that Eddie was benched
>> > by Casey for speaking his mind, or as an attempt by Casey to
>> > "motivate" Eddie, rather than anything else, IMO.
>>
>> Whatever Casey's motives are, according to this
>> article, he has never talked to Eddie about the whys
>> and what to change.
>>
>> http://www.startribune.com/511/story/289724.html
>
>If EG is telling the truth, that's another ding against Casey as a
>coach. How can you bench a guy and not tell him why and how to
>improve.

You can do it if you're trying to play head games with someone,
which is still what I think Casey was doing.

>> And you gotta love the revelation that Eddie is
>> just a little out-of focus all the time. Geez,
>> what do they cover in those physicals?
>
>And why are they waiting until after the season to correct it? He
>should either wear goggles or get the procedure done. Recovery time is
>about 1-2 weeks, which would have been fine since he was benched anyway.

No doubt. These guys are paid way too much to sit on the
bench because they "don't like the way glasses feel, and
contacts bother their eyes".

I feel that way, too. But I still wear my glasses or contacts in
order to do my job...and I can guarantee you I'm not making an
NBA athlete type salary to do it.




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ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
> levi wrote:
> > S. Smith wrote:
> > > On 7 Mar 2006 08:50:07 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
> > > <ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >levi wrote:
> > > >> S. Smith wrote:
> > > >> > On 5 Mar 2006 21:47:43 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
> > > >> > <ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >S. Smith wrote:
> > > >> > > On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Casey seems to be getting a little too personal when doling out
> > > >> > >minutes. He should be playing his best players, not using PT as
> > > >> > >punishment for players who speak there minds. Jaric and EG, for better
> > > >> > >or worse, are two of the top five players on the team, and the record
> > > >> > >would probably be a little better if Casey knew how to use them
> > > >> > >properly.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Casey seems to be one of those coaches who uses playing
> > > >> > time to punish his players for talking back or missing practices,
> > > >> > etc. He needs to stop that now, IMO.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think that this line of thought is just as much
> > > >> "unwarranted speculation" as anything I've suggested
> > > >> that *may* be going on with Eddie G.
> > > >
> > > >Not even close. We've seen three instances where players have come
> > > >out, spoken their minds and have subsequently been benched even though
> > > >they are better than the players replacing them.
> >
> > Huh? Who are you talking about?
>
> His dealings with EG/Jaric/McCants.

Feel free to provide supporting documentation of your
theory. As far as I recall, Jaric and McCants were benched
because their play clearly sucked. This was not the case
for Eddie.

And who is your "third"? You really can't claim EG as proof.
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Well one this is certain, and I usually abhor certainty, because it
usually bites you in the ass.....BUT;

Duane Casey, I say with absolute certainty, will never be confused for
Anne Sullivan the miracle worker.
..
rim shot...i'm here all year...drive safe, tip the wait staff and
bartenders.......
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krush does make a good point, why not goggles? Kareem wore goggles, and
Rick Hamilton
wears that Halloween creepy thing, didn't Horace and Harvey Grant wear
goggles? Come on
Eddie, get the gear that will help keep you on the court.

Why wouldn't Lenscrafters or some other company step up and teach him
to use contacts
or develop a pair of sports goggles for the wolves and eddie for the
publicity. They could create
an entire add campaign with video of 3's clanging, then 3's draining
and claim the credit.
Then overlay Mark Blount and say....."this cat don't have his eyes to
blame, there ain't no
'scuse for this lass ass bull hockey" <yes I had to fit a Blount
screed in....heh
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levi wrote:
> ikrushlots DeleteThis @aol.com wrote:
> > levi wrote:
> > > S. Smith wrote:
> > > > On 7 Mar 2006 08:50:07 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
> > > > <ikrushlots DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >levi wrote:
> > > > >> S. Smith wrote:
> > > > >> > On 5 Mar 2006 21:47:43 -0800, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
> > > > >> > <ikrushlots DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >S. Smith wrote:
> > > > >> > > On 4 Mar 2006 15:23:45 -0800, "ADH Northsider" <aharcus DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >Casey seems to be getting a little too personal when doling out
> > > > >> > >minutes. He should be playing his best players, not using PT as
> > > > >> > >punishment for players who speak there minds. Jaric and EG, for better
> > > > >> > >or worse, are two of the top five players on the team, and the record
> > > > >> > >would probably be a little better if Casey knew how to use them
> > > > >> > >properly.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Casey seems to be one of those coaches who uses playing
> > > > >> > time to punish his players for talking back or missing practices,
> > > > >> > etc. He needs to stop that now, IMO.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think that this line of thought is just as much
> > > > >> "unwarranted speculation" as anything I've suggested
> > > > >> that *may* be going on with Eddie G.
> > > > >
> > > > >Not even close. We've seen three instances where players have come
> > > > >out, spoken their minds and have subsequently been benched even though
> > > > >they are better than the players replacing them.
> > >
> > > Huh? Who are you talking about?
> >
> > His dealings with EG/Jaric/McCants.
>
> Feel free to provide supporting documentation of your
> theory. As far as I recall, Jaric and McCants were benched
> because their play clearly sucked. This was not the case
> for Eddie.

Anybody paying attention over the past few weeks knows EG and Jaric
have made some complaints publically (are you really going to argue
they did not?), thus it's not hard to at least think about the notion
that Casey has been vindictive.

Jaric was not playing great, but he was a decent complimentary player
until Casey started messing with his head.

McCants may be a stretch, but I seem to recall Casey making some
negative comments about his attitude and decreasing his minutes.

> And who is your "third"? You really can't claim EG as proof.

Why not?

Go back to what we were talking about: *warranted vs unwarranted
speculation*. Suggesting that chemical dependence was the reason for
his benching is unwarranted speculation. The comments EG may not
provide certainty, but it's enough to at least bring it up without
sounding like a tabloid headline.
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My pleas for Eddie are waning. He's known about this vision problem
since he was in grammar school, and refuses to try and remedy it. He's
a dope, gas this loser, he's on my list of dead wood on this club, and
McHale is the lumber jack and he is NOT ok.
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