One Fan's Grades For The Bucks This Year

On Sat, 01 May 2004 15:29:01 GMT, Joe Blow <joseph_blow16.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>> Keep in mind 1 important fact. vanhorn has been traded 3 times in how
>> many years? Also the contract that you say TT has that is too much...
>> Who gave him that contract??? The bucks did!! It is their problem.
>> They must have thought he was worth it. Now the knicks did not give
>> vanhorn this so called crazy salary. So who is really at fault here?
>> Knicks or bucks?
>
>
>And your point is what? That the great brainpower behind the
>Knicks has a track record for never overpaying its players???
>
>JB

Just answer the questions blowjob.
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> Chris Hafner wrote:
>
>> KVH is paid more than Kidd, Tmac & Duncan. Yet TT who doesn't
>> get paid more than those 3 superstars
>
> What's the point of this?

You snipped the point. Here it is again in its entirety:

KVH is paid more than Kidd, Tmac & Duncan. Yet TT who doesn't get
paid more than those 3 superstars has better numbers (190/151) than
KVH & won the TT v KVH match-up in the Knicks\Bucks game.

> What's this little stat? Not satisfied with the points, rebounds,
> assists, steals, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, etc.? Why snip the *actual
> statistical comparison* between the two and post this little
> mystery number

No mystery, KVH's output declined after K\B while TT's increased.
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>From: "G. Smitts" 02434GS.TakeThisOut@asqeuica.com
>
>> Chris Hafner wrote:
>> What's this little stat? Not satisfied with the points, rebounds,
>> assists, steals, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, etc.? Why snip the *actual
>> statistical comparison* between the two and post this little
>> mystery number
>
>No mystery, KVH's output declined after K\B while TT's increased.
>
>
The real mystery is why you continue to ignore the analysis that was posted
which spells out clearly who the better player really was this year.
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> Europa2846 wrote:
>
>>> Chris Hafner wrote: What's this little stat? Not satisfied
>>> with the points, rebounds, assists, steals, FG%, 3PT%, FT%,
>>> etc.? Why snip the *actual statistical comparison* between the
>>> two and post this little mystery number
>>
>> No mystery, KVH's output declined after K\B while TT's
>> increased.
>
> The real mystery is why you continue to ignore the analysis that
> was posted which spells out clearly who the better player really
> was this year.

If he was the better player he would not have lost to TT.
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>From: "G. Smitts" 02434GS RemoveThis @asqeuica.com
>
>> Europa2846 wrote:
>>
>>>> Chris Hafner wrote: What's this little stat? Not satisfied
>>>> with the points, rebounds, assists, steals, FG%, 3PT%, FT%,
>>>> etc.? Why snip the *actual statistical comparison* between the
>>>> two and post this little mystery number
>>>
>>> No mystery, KVH's output declined after K\B while TT's
>>> increased.
>>
>> The real mystery is why you continue to ignore the analysis that
>> was posted which spells out clearly who the better player really
>> was this year.
>
>If he was the better player he would not have lost to TT.
>
>
LOL. You're a piece of work, I'll give you that. You ignore an entire career
and season's worth of evidence and instead the basis of your argument rests on
a handful of games and one game in particular. Yup, that's definitely how you
want to evaluate talent all right. You'd make a helluva GM. <g>
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"G. Smitts" <02434GS.TakeThisOut@asqeuica.com> wrote in message
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> > Chris Hafner wrote:
> >
> >> KVH is paid more than Kidd, Tmac & Duncan. Yet TT who doesn't
> >> get paid more than those 3 superstars
> >
> > What's the point of this?
>
> You snipped the point.

That's a laugh. No, Mr. Smitts, unlike you I leave in the post to which I
reply in order to make sure the context is clear.

Every word of your post was present - I broke in mid-sentence to make clear
what I was addressing but left the rest. In fact, I replied to the rest.

I'm glad you reposted - I'll repost my replies to see if you've got an
answer for them this time.

---

> Here it is again in its entirety:
>
> KVH is paid more than Kidd, Tmac & Duncan. Yet TT who doesn't get
> paid more than those 3 superstars

What's the point of this? You could just as easily say, "TT makes more than
me, while KVH is not the highest paid player in the NBA!"

Why dodge with these little semantic games when we have their *actual
salaries* to compare? Ah - I forgot that you snipped that out as well.

> has better numbers (190/151)

What's this little stat? Not satisfied with the points, rebounds, assists,
steals, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, etc.? Why snip the *actual statistical comparison*
between the two and post this little mystery number unless you're dodging
the implications of that comparison and want to keep perpetuating your own
agenda, regardless of any sense of truth?

> than
> KVH & won the TT v KVH match-up in the Knicks\Bucks game.

Two points - subjectivity and small sample size. This is the equivalent of
buying a car because you think the valve stem on the front right tire is
really pretty.

The way you snipped all the statistical content and evaluation in my post is
a pretty clear indication that you're not interested in an actual honest
discussion - you're just frantically trying to maintain your Van Horn troll
in the face of all facts and reason. You can't even bring yourself to answer
any of the points, and that smacks of intellectual dishonesty.

I don't want to believe that - I'd love to see you prove me wrong by
replying with a thoughtful post that addresses the issues on the table.

Cheers,
Chris Hafner

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> > What's this little stat? Not satisfied with the points, rebounds,
> > assists, steals, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, etc.? Why snip the *actual
> > statistical comparison* between the two and post this little
> > mystery number
>
> No mystery, KVH's output declined after K\B while TT's increased.

No, the stat is still a mystery - to me, anyway. Maybe everybody else
automatically knows what those cryptic numbers refer to and why they're
relevant.

What's the 190? What's the 151? Why are they more significant than actual
stats like points and rebounds?

Cheers,
Chris Hafner
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> Chris Hafner wrote:
>
>>>> KVH is paid more than Kidd, Tmac & Duncan. Yet TT who
>>>> doesn't get paid more than those 3 superstars
>>>
>>> What's the point of this?
>>
>> You snipped the point.
>
> That's a laugh. No, Mr. Smitts, unlike you I leave in the post to
> which I reply in order to make sure the context is clear.
>
> Every word of your post was present - I broke in mid-sentence to
> make clear what I was addressing but left the rest. In fact, I
> replied to the rest.
>
> I'm glad you reposted - I'll repost my replies to see if you've
> got an answer for them this time.

I posted real numbers, regarding the games KVH & TT played after the
trade. You called those numbers "mystery number". Even though those
numbers were grabbed directly from the games they played.

After disregarding those numbers you posted stats for the entire season.

I looked at the entire season and found that TT won more games with
his team and KVH lost more games with his team. And the games TT
won with his team he increased is FG%. While whether KVH lost or
won with his team his FG% remained unchanged.
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