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s_knight8

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:10 am
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html

He did not know which of the long-suffering teams' millions he wanted
to take. As the waves poured in from the Pacific and the controller of
the video game he had worn out sat idle, he finally figured out how he
would make up his mind: He would flip a coin.

He had eliminated Golden State, where he had played his only two
seasons in the league and earned the NBA most improved player award
last season. Not enough money and some bitter feelings that arose
during negotiations eliminated the Warriors, he said.

The Clippers were heads, the Wizards were tails. Ten flips of a
quarter would decide.

Heads came up eight times.

Washington it was.

"I always go against the odds," Arenas said of his unconventional
process. "When the Clippers came up eight times, I was like, I don't
go with the grain. I go against the wave. I go upstream."

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:58 am
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In article <6bd12cd6.0309070910.6fef60fd DeleteThis @posting.google.com>,
s_knight8 DeleteThis @hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html

This is one of those things, that, if true, just sort of makes you
scratch your head. We're spending all this time trying to figure out
what factors made Washington more appealing, and it ended up just being
random.

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Isaac

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:17 pm
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On 7 Sep 2003 10:10:44 -0700, s_knight8 <s_knight8.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html
>
> He did not know which of the long-suffering teams' millions he wanted
> to take. As the waves poured in from the Pacific and the controller of
> the video game he had worn out sat idle, he finally figured out how he
> would make up his mind: He would flip a coin.
>
> He had eliminated Golden State, where he had played his only two
> seasons in the league and earned the NBA most improved player award
> last season. Not enough money and some bitter feelings that arose
> during negotiations eliminated the Warriors, he said.
>
> The Clippers were heads, the Wizards were tails. Ten flips of a
> quarter would decide.
>
> Heads came up eight times.
>
> Washington it was.
>
> "I always go against the odds," Arenas said of his unconventional
> process. "When the Clippers came up eight times, I was like, I don't
> go with the grain. I go against the wave. I go upstream."

Sounds to me like he wasn't going to go with the Clippers no matter
how many coin flips come up heads or tails.

Isaac
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Calen Yellow Robe

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:30 am
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Ron <ronaldinho_m DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<ronaldinho_m-CE623B.11580707092003 DeleteThis @news.fu-berlin.de>...
> In article <6bd12cd6.0309070910.6fef60fd DeleteThis @posting.google.com>,
> s_knight8 DeleteThis @hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
>
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html
>
> This is one of those things, that, if true, just sort of makes you
> scratch your head. We're spending all this time trying to figure out
> what factors made Washington more appealing, and it ended up just being
> random.





Yeah but you'd have to really dislike yourself to send yourself to the Clips.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:10 am
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humbubba DeleteThis @smart.net
>On 7 Sep 2003 10:10:44 -0700, s_knight8 <s_knight8 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html
>>
>> He did not know which of the long-suffering teams' millions he wanted
>> to take. As the waves poured in from the Pacific and the controller of
>> the video game he had worn out sat idle, he finally figured out how he
>> would make up his mind: He would flip a coin.
>>
>> He had eliminated Golden State, where he had played his only two
>> seasons in the league and earned the NBA most improved player award
>> last season. Not enough money and some bitter feelings that arose
>> during negotiations eliminated the Warriors, he said.
>>
>> The Clippers were heads, the Wizards were tails. Ten flips of a
>> quarter would decide.
>>
>> Heads came up eight times.
>>
>> Washington it was.
>>
>> "I always go against the odds," Arenas said of his unconventional
>> process. "When the Clippers came up eight times, I was like, I don't
>> go with the grain. I go against the wave. I go upstream."
>
>Sounds to me like he wasn't going to go with the Clippers no matter
>how many coin flips come up heads or tails.
>
>Isaac

It was nice to see some b-ball stuff in the comPost this time of year, and
I didn't know anything about Arenas. He seems pretty whacked, which is a
good thing for a PG. He also looks like Eric Snow, which is a hopefully a
good sign. 18 6 and 4 are really great numbers for a youngin, but he
played for who? But 18-some points and 6-some assists does look like
there's some real PG skill there.

Also interesting in the article was the way Jordan raised a comparison to
the big bucks guy and some guy who's just a hometown guy, which in NBA
terms I suppose Blake is now in DC, although I believe he's originally
from Florida. The draft has a huge hometown influence, starting with
Cleveland taking Mr. Hype, LeBron James. At any rate, the PG problem is
solved, and gives way to the "which PG?" problem, a lovely problem to
have. I suspect with Blake and Whitney around Arenas will be seeing
significant 2-guard time, and that will increase over Blake's time with
the team. And that is what Jordan was hinting at. Eddie Jordan seems like
the type that doesn't give out a lock on the 1. Particularly when he was
so high on Blake. Which is why I'm so high on Jordan.

MAN I'd love to watch Wizards practices this year. Like I would have loved
to watch Blake and Heinrich work out for the Wizards. Arenas also went on
at length about pickup summer games in MCI ...

the past three weeks, Arenas has been in Washington, working out on
his own, then taking part in two-hour, daily pick-up games at MCI
Center with teammates Jerry Stackhouse, Hughes, Haywood, Etan Thomas,
Steve Blake and local pros Steve Francis, Chris Wilcox, Sam Cassell,
Tony Massenburg and others.

I sure hope "others" includes Kwame and Brendan.

Rick Hohensee
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Barry Wong

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:35 am
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s_knight8 <s_knight8.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The Clippers were heads, the Wizards were tails. Ten flips of a
> quarter would decide.
>
> Heads came up eight times.
>
> Washington it was.
>
> "I always go against the odds," Arenas said of his unconventional
> process. "When the Clippers came up eight times, I was like, I don't
> go with the grain. I go against the wave. I go upstream."

Hey, if he really wanted to go against the wave, he should have signed
with the Warriors...
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:52 am
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"Calen Yellow Robe" <yellowrobe.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:dd5c5487.0309080230.49f0e5f3@posting.google.com...
> Ron <ronaldinho_m.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<ronaldinho_m-CE623B.11580707092003.RemoveThis@news.fu-berlin.de>...
> > In article <6bd12cd6.0309070910.6fef60fd.RemoveThis@posting.google.com>,
> > s_knight8.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html
> >
> > This is one of those things, that, if true, just sort of makes you
> > scratch your head. We're spending all this time trying to figure out
> > what factors made Washington more appealing, and it ended up just being
> > random.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah but you'd have to really dislike yourself to send yourself to the
Clips.

I can just see him, "Damn, heads again! OK, 3 out of 4. Damn! 4 out of
5..."

Go Blazers !
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Neil Cerutti

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:18 pm
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Gilbert Arenas says:
> "I always go against the odds," Arenas said of his
> unconventional process. "When the Clippers came up eight times,
> I was like, I don't go with the grain. I go against the wave. I
> go upstream."

That is masterful metaphor mixing. This is a guy who knows when
to hold 'em, so he shakes that tree, and turns over new leaves as
fall where they may.

--
Neil Cerutti
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Calen Yellow Robe

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:10 am
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"Swillabrew" <dontspam.DeleteThis@any.net> wrote in message news:<vlpcte8ndt08c2.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Calen Yellow Robe" <yellowrobe.DeleteThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:dd5c5487.0309080230.49f0e5f3@posting.google.com...
> > Ron <ronaldinho_m.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<ronaldinho_m-CE623B.11580707092003.DeleteThis@news.fu-berlin.de>...
> > > In article <6bd12cd6.0309070910.6fef60fd.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>,
> > > s_knight8.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html
> > >
> > > This is one of those things, that, if true, just sort of makes you
> > > scratch your head. We're spending all this time trying to figure out
> > > what factors made Washington more appealing, and it ended up just being
> > > random.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah but you'd have to really dislike yourself to send yourself to the
> Clips.
>
> I can just see him, "Damn, heads again! OK, 3 out of 4. Damn! 4 out of
> 5..."
>



Yeah and can you imagine being him and the other options is ...
(ughhh) the aptly named Wiz?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:31 am
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humbubba.RemoveThis@smart.net
>"Swillabrew" <dontspam.RemoveThis@any.net> wrote in message news:<vlpcte8ndt08c2.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>...
>> "Calen Yellow Robe" <yellowrobe.RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
>> news:dd5c5487.0309080230.49f0e5f3@posting.google.com...
>> > Ron <ronaldinho_m.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:<ronaldinho_m-CE623B.11580707092003.RemoveThis@news.fu-berlin.de>...
>> > > In article <6bd12cd6.0309070910.6fef60fd.RemoveThis@posting.google.com>,
>> > > s_knight8.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36032-2003Sep6.html
>> > >
>> > > This is one of those things, that, if true, just sort of makes you
>> > > scratch your head. We're spending all this time trying to figure out
>> > > what factors made Washington more appealing, and it ended up just being
>> > > random.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah but you'd have to really dislike yourself to send yourself to the
>> Clips.
>>
>> I can just see him, "Damn, heads again! OK, 3 out of 4. Damn! 4 out of
>> 5..."
>>
>
>
>
>Yeah and can you imagine being him and the other options is ...
>(ughhh) the aptly named Wiz?



From
http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/B/Black%20Sabbath/Black%20Sabbat
h%20-%20The%20Wizard%20lyrics.htm



Black Sabbath The Wizard lyrics

Misty morning, clouds in the sky
Without warning, the wizard walks by
Casting his shadow, weaving his spell
Funny clothes, tinkling bell
Never talking
Just keeps walking
Spreading his magic
Evil power disappears
Demons worry when the wizard is near
He turns tears into joy
Everyone's happy when the wizard walks by
Never talking
Just keeps walking
Spreading his magic
Sun is shining, clouds have gone by
All the people give a happy sigh
He has passed by, giving his sign
Left all the people feeling so fine
Never talking
Just keeps walking
Spreading his magic


Rick Hohensee
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