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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:09 pm
Post subject: Flip fired
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:09 pm
Post subject: Re: Flip fired [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:09:37 GMT, "GM Collins"
<buur11@*(**Gmaildot..com*> wrote:
>To be announced today at 2:00. It appears that Michael Curry is going to be
>the new coach.
>
>Geoff
>
Already posted on Piston.com.
Detroit Pistons President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars
announced today that Flip Saunders will not return next season as the
team’s head coach.
“Decisions like this are difficult to make, especially with the
success we have had throughout the last three regular-seasons,” Dumars
said. “However, at this time, I feel it is necessary to make a change.
I thank Flip for his hard work and dedication, but it is time for a
new voice to lead our team.”
The search begins and Avery Johnson is not the answer. He couldn't
get Dallas over the hump. I doubt he could get Detroit over it
either.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:09 pm
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On Jun 3, 11:50 am, SkippyPB <swieg....DeleteThis@nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:09:37 GMT, "GM Collins"
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> <buur11@*(**Gmaildot..com*> wrote:
> >To be announced today at 2:00. It appears that Michael Curry is going to be
> >the new coach.
>
> >Geoff
>
> Already posted on Piston.com.
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> Detroit Pistons President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars
> announced today that Flip Saunders will not return next season as the
> team’s head coach.
>
> “Decisions like this are difficult to make,
Yeah, because you brought in Saunders, so to fire him, you would be
admitting you made a mistake.
>especially with the
> success we have had throughout the last three regular-seasons,” Dumars
That's a backhanded compliment for Saunders.
> said. “However, at this time, I feel it is necessary to make a change.
> I thank Flip for his hard work and dedication, but it is time for a
> new voice to lead our team.”
The Pistons made it to 2 straight Finals before Saunders, and he took
them to 3 straight ECFs. So the Pistons actually got worse under
Saunders.
> The search begins and Avery Johnson is not the answer. He couldn't
> get Dallas over the hump.
He choked in the Finals, and choked in 2 straight first rounds. Joe
would be an idiot to hire a choker like Avery.
>I doubt he could get Detroit over it
> either.
>
> Regards,
> ////
> (o o)
> -oOO--(_)--OOo-
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> "I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad
> to make an exception."
> -- Groucho Marx
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Remove nospam to email me.
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> Steve >> Stay informed about: Flip fired |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:12 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:59 am
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On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:12:45 -0700 (PDT),
"jslater@NOutnet.utoledoSPAM.edu" <jslater DeleteThis @utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote:
>I came into this year no big fan of Flip's, but I don't think you can
>pin the ECF loss on him. -- Joe
I think you can. He changed the guys out on the floor in the 4th
quarter. He had a group that was scoring and defending. He brought
Sheed and McDyess (I think it was) back in and the Celtics pulled away
while the Pistons didn't score.
Regards,
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(o o)
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"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad
to make an exception."
-- Groucho Marx
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Steve >> Stay informed about: Flip fired |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:45 pm
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4cd947fb16b7.DeleteThis@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>I came into this year no big fan of Flip's, but I don't think you can
> pin the ECF loss on him. -- Joe
I felt this year was the best he had done as a coach. Developed a couple of
young players so that they gave solid contributions in the playoffs and
Stuckey now looks like a future star. Dumars expressed that he was upset at
Afflalo didn't get more playing time but I never saw anything from him that
showed he deserved it.
It's not really Flip's fault that Sheed went insane for the 2nd year in a
row in the conference finals. I mean you can pin it on the coach if you want
but he has had exactly one coach that has ever been able to control him so. >> Stay informed about: Flip fired |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:14 pm
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> 4cd947fb16b7.TakeThisOut@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>I came into this year no big fan of Flip's, but I don't think you can
>> pin the ECF loss on him. -- Joe
>
> I felt this year was the best he had done as a coach. Developed a couple
> of young players so that they gave solid contributions in the playoffs and
> Stuckey now looks like a future star. Dumars expressed that he was upset
> at Afflalo didn't get more playing time but I never saw anything from him
> that showed he deserved it.
>
> It's not really Flip's fault that Sheed went insane for the 2nd year in a
> row in the conference finals. I mean you can pin it on the coach if you
> want but he has had exactly one coach that has ever been able to control
> him so.
Err, meant Amir not Afflalo. Got my A's messed up. >> Stay informed about: Flip fired |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:58 pm
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On Jun 4, 11:59 am, SkippyPB <swieg... RemoveThis @nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:12:45 -0700 (PDT),
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> "jsla...@NOutnet.utoledoSPAM.edu" <jsla... RemoveThis @utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote:
> >I came into this year no big fan of Flip's, but I don't think you can
> >pin the ECF loss on him. -- Joe
>
> I think you can. He changed the guys out on the floor in the 4th
> quarter. He had a group that was scoring and defending. He brought
> Sheed and McDyess (I think it was) back in and the Celtics pulled away
> while the Pistons didn't score.
>
> Regards,
> ////
> (o o)
> -oOO--(_)--OOo-
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> "I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad
> to make an exception."
> -- Groucho Marx
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Remove nospam to email me.
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> Steve
Well, Game 6 of the Boston series was the only game of the playoffs I
didn't see (in Canada on business), so I don't know exactly what
happened. But blaming a coach for putting in his starters when his
team has a lead in the 4th quarter of an elimination game seems a bit
odd. Suppose Flip had left in a couple of bench players and they had
blown the lead?
Oh well, it's all moot now. -- Joe >> Stay informed about: Flip fired |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:32 am
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:58:28 -0700 (PDT),
"jslater@NOutnet.utoledoSPAM.edu" <jslater DeleteThis @utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote:
>On Jun 4, 11:59 am, SkippyPB <swieg... DeleteThis @nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:12:45 -0700 (PDT),
>>
>> "jsla...@NOutnet.utoledoSPAM.edu" <jsla... DeleteThis @utnet.utoledo.edu> wrote:
>> >I came into this year no big fan of Flip's, but I don't think you can
>> >pin the ECF loss on him. -- Joe
>>
>> I think you can. He changed the guys out on the floor in the 4th
>> quarter. He had a group that was scoring and defending. He brought
>> Sheed and McDyess (I think it was) back in and the Celtics pulled away
>> while the Pistons didn't score.
>>
>> Regards,
>> ////
>> (o o)
>> -oOO--(_)--OOo-
>>
>> "I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad
>> to make an exception."
>> -- Groucho Marx
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Remove nospam to email me.
>>
>> Steve
>
>Well, Game 6 of the Boston series was the only game of the playoffs I
>didn't see (in Canada on business), so I don't know exactly what
>happened. But blaming a coach for putting in his starters when his
>team has a lead in the 4th quarter of an elimination game seems a bit
>odd. Suppose Flip had left in a couple of bench players and they had
>blown the lead?
>
>Oh well, it's all moot now. -- Joe
It seems to me the old adage of you stay with who is hot until they
are not applies here. Flip didn't wait for his bench guys to cool
off. He brought back a couple of starters who other than rebounding
hadn't done much else the whole game.
Regards,
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(o o)
-oOO--(_)--OOo-
"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad
to make an exception."
-- Groucho Marx
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Steve >> Stay informed about: Flip fired |
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