Giddens - I love this pick

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:57:03 -0700 (PDT), "mr. gone"
<mr_gone78.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 30, 5:28 pm, JK <n....RemoveThis@way.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:19:59 -0400, "Robert Chin" <bchin....RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"JK" <n....RemoveThis@way.net> wrote in message
>> >news:6a4i645gqobj08ic7d3gffcoh49teaadc6@4ax.com...
>>
>> >> I disagree.  There's not a player in the basketball who can stop his
>> >> turn around jumper out to 15'.  It's unblockable unless a
>> >> double-teamer gets a piece of it from behind.  He can always go to
>> >> that shot.
>>
>> >If you are talking about how long KG will be effective and HOW effective, it
>> >won't be as long as Kareem was.  If we're talking 3-4 more years, I already
>> >agreed.
>>
>> >Maybe that jumper is "unblockable" but when his legs start to go, so does
>> >the jumper.  Jabbar could have shot the skyhook until he was 50 if he had
>> >wanted to.
>>
>> A large portion of why it's such a deadly shot is due to KG's height,
>> wingspan and his release, which occurs with his arms nearly fully
>> extended upwards, and the amount of arch he puts on it.  And it's not
>> as if in 4 years, at 36 years of age, KG will suddenly be limited to a
>> 20" vertical.  I believe he'll have that shot reliably available in
>> his arsenal for as long as he wants to play.
>>
>you're missing the point - a jumper become less *accurate* (not less
>*available*) as a player ages and their legs go. nobody doubts the
>shot will be available - i share bob's doubt that he'll be able to
>*make* it as reliably in 3-4 years. the hook relies the least on the
>legs of any shot, and when it's being taken from 12-15 feet like
>kareem routinely did, you can still make it.

The hook, from that distance is a much more difficult shot than the
jump shot.

>> >You've also got to consider that other teams would rather give up a 15 foot
>> >turnaround to KG than to have him within 10 feet of the basket.
>>
>> 2 points is the same regardless of where you shoot it.
>
>but accuracy drops for most guys with increased distance, moreso as
>they get older.

I'm truly not worried about it. KG is a shooter. A guy's shot is
usually one of the last things to go.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:05:07 -0400, "Don Simard"
<simard57 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>> A large portion of why it's such a deadly shot is due to KG's height,
>> wingspan and his release, which occurs with his arms nearly fully
>> extended upwards, and the amount of arch he puts on it. And it's not
>> as if in 4 years, at 36 years of age, KG will suddenly be limited to a
>> 20" vertical. I believe he'll have that shot reliably available in
>> his arsenal for as long as he wants to play.
>
>sounds like how the Chief use to shoot and he played into his 40's

It is. Only KG tends to use it more in a turn around mode, while
Chief was primarily a face up shooter.