Gillespie a better choice than Donovan

On Apr 6, 7:32 pm, karlthompso....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> I think UK dodged a bullet by not landing Donovan. He had 3 times the
> talent Gillespie had last season but got much less out of his Gators
> than Gillespie got out of the Aggies. I don't think Donovan is as
> much of a motivator (his pre-game speech for the finals was terrible)
> and I think he isn't as respected by his players, more like a friend
> than a mentor. We're lucky to get Gillespie (poor Aggies).
> Hopefully Gillespie will recruit some in-state players (lifelong
> CATS fans) and not miss out on another Chris Lofton like Tubby did.

Serves the Aggies right. I had them picked for the championship on
my best pool sheet.
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karlthompson79.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote in news:1175902362.468349.218740
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> Hopefully Gillespie will recruit some in-state players (lifelong
> CATS fans) and not miss out on another Chris Lofton like Tubby did.
>

Say what you will about Tubby, but I'm tired of anybody pinning not
recruiting Lofton on him. Neither UK nor Louisville, or any other top
college for that matter, recruited Lofton or offered him a scholarship. At
the time Tennessee getting Lofton was seen more along the lines of getting
the scraps after UK and Louisville drafted the more highly-touted guards.
It's only in hindsight that not taking Lofton seems like a bad thing, but
at the time nobody in their right mind was critical. You can pin a lot of
criticisms on Tubby, but failing to sign Lofton isn't one of them. If you
fault Tubby for that then you have to fault every other top basketball
program in the nation for letting him slip through the cracks.

You never seem to hear people giving Pitino the same amount of grief over
the Lofton thing yet Pitino made the far more egregious error in hindsight
by focusing on Sebastian Telfair. By focusing on Telfair he ignored Lofton
and also let Rajon Rondo get away, and in the end didn't even get Telfair
either. Yeah, Rondo didn't really pan out as a great UK player but he
certainly was decent and did more than Telfair's ever done. So how come
the people who constantly complain about letting Kentucky boys get away
never give Pitino half as much grief as they give Tubby for letting Lofton
go, when Pitino let not one but TWO Kentucky boys go in Lofton and Rondo?
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"Andrew" <amur....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> writes:

><karlthompson79.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>I think UK dodged a bullet by not landing Donovan. He had 3 times
>>the talent Gillespie had last season but got much less out of his
>>Gators than Gillespie got out of the Aggies.
>
>I'm not even gonna bother to read the rest of the paragraph after
>this claim. How exactly is winning a championship "much less" than
>losing in the Sweet 16?

C'mon, do the math!

In any case, I think this is a good hire for Kentucky. Gillispie has
had success at both UTEP and Texas A&M, turning both programs around
very quickly. Who would've thought he'd have A&M in the Top 10 at
all, let alone this quickly. I don't think there are any other
up-and-coming coaches that have done close to what he's done. It's
kind of comparable to Bill Self being hired at Illinois and then
Kansas.

And with the coaches that were indicating they weren't interested in
the position, it didn't seem like there were any better possibilities
available among more experienced coaches.

Plus I called it :-).

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On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 01:15:17 -0500, Tuff Gong wrote:

> karlthompson79.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote in news:1175902362.468349.218740
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>
>> Hopefully Gillespie will recruit some in-state players (lifelong
>> CATS fans) and not miss out on another Chris Lofton like Tubby did.
>
> Say what you will about Tubby, but I'm tired of anybody pinning not
> recruiting Lofton on him. Neither UK nor Louisville, or any other top
> college for that matter, recruited Lofton or offered him a scholarship. At
> the time Tennessee getting Lofton was seen more along the lines of getting
> the scraps after UK and Louisville drafted the more highly-touted guards.
> It's only in hindsight that not taking Lofton seems like a bad thing, but
> at the time nobody in their right mind was critical. You can pin a lot of
> criticisms on Tubby, but failing to sign Lofton isn't one of them. If you
> fault Tubby for that then you have to fault every other top basketball
> program in the nation for letting him slip through the cracks.
>
> You never seem to hear people giving Pitino the same amount of grief over
> the Lofton thing yet Pitino made the far more egregious error in hindsight
> by focusing on Sebastian Telfair. By focusing on Telfair he ignored Lofton
> and also let Rajon Rondo get away, and in the end didn't even get Telfair
> either. Yeah, Rondo didn't really pan out as a great UK player but he
> certainly was decent and did more than Telfair's ever done. So how come
> the people who constantly complain about letting Kentucky boys get away
> never give Pitino half as much grief as they give Tubby for letting Lofton
> go, when Pitino let not one but TWO Kentucky boys go in Lofton and Rondo?

Who gives a damn about Pitino or Louisville?

Just sayin'.

Although I don't understand the Lofton criticism either, if it's somehow
extra-virulent, apart from wishing of course along with everyone else that
he'd somehow made it onto the UK bench, since it's something of a
tradition for the Tennessee teams, especially Vandie, to shove Kentucky
players, especially former Mr. Basketballs, right up UK's nose.

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> <karlthompson79 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>I think UK dodged a bullet by not landing Donovan. He had 3 times the
>> talent Gillespie had last season but got much less out of his Gators
>> than Gillespie got out of the Aggies.
>
> I'm not even gonna bother to read the rest of the paragraph after this
> claim. How exactly is winning a championship "much less" than losing in
> the Sweet 16?

Obviously you're not a math major. One made the S 16; the other the F 4.

16 > 4.
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Milt Epstein <mepstein RemoveThis @uiuc.edu> wrote:

>"Andrew" <amur... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> writes:
>
>><karlthompson79 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1175902362.468349.218740@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>I think UK dodged a bullet by not landing Donovan. He had 3 times
>>>the talent Gillespie had last season but got much less out of his
>>>Gators than Gillespie got out of the Aggies.
>>
>>I'm not even gonna bother to read the rest of the paragraph after
>>this claim. How exactly is winning a championship "much less" than
>>losing in the Sweet 16?
>
>C'mon, do the math!
>
>In any case, I think this is a good hire for Kentucky. Gillispie has
>had success at both UTEP and Texas A&M, turning both programs around
>very quickly. Who would've thought he'd have A&M in the Top 10 at
>all, let alone this quickly. I don't think there are any other
>up-and-coming coaches that have done close to what he's done. It's
>kind of comparable to Bill Self being hired at Illinois and then
>Kansas.
>

Plusseth, Gillispie is a former assistant to Bill Self as well.
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