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Dan Gaters wrote:
> Doctor Chen:
>
>> so very raw, so he can either be really good or really bad
>
> Darko Milicic called, says the other day he called Dumars and Dumars said he
> can't remember who he was and hung up.
>

Verizon called, says people on this group have been overusing this
particular expression, says your service will be disconnected if you don't
pay your long distance bills.

Also, they say you can save a bunch of money on their Triple Play Fios
offer if you switch from Cablevision.

=p=
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On Jun 27, 8:47 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> the rub that I hate about Euro players, they stay and play in there
> country becoming bigger than life there, then they wake up one day ans say
> "I am going to now play in the NBA" and then all of a sudden, they are
> fouling out in 10 minutes while getting abused. If they just play in the NBA
> from the start, they would be done with the adjustment period.

Money talks. Rookie salaries aren't that high here in comparison to
there, especially when the dollar's worth fifty euro-cents and
sinking.

> Sure there
> are the Ginobili's and Parkers who have florished in this game, but there is
> also a lot of Euro's who come in and just sit or never play.

Just as there are the Bryants and Garnetts who have flourished in this
game, and there are a lot of Americans who come in and sit or never
play.

Talent's talent. Trying to shoehorn everyone from Europe into a
stereotype is a waste of time. The point here is, is this kid
Gallinari really such a star on offense that you can overlook his lack
of defense? Most of the time, players who can't play D (American,
European, or from anywhere else) can't make up for their errors on the
defensive end, regardless of how often they score. Throw him into a
roster where there really isn't a single stopper and you're just
asking for trouble, methinks.
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On Jun 27, 8:41 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack... RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> Look at how the fans love David
> Lee and it isn't exactly for his game.

Uh...what else would it be for?
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"Pablo" <pablos RemoveThis @stwing.spmBGone.org> wrote in message
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> Dan Gaters wrote:
>> Doctor Chen:
>>
>>> so very raw, so he can either be really good or really bad
>>
>> Darko Milicic called, says the other day he called Dumars and Dumars said
>> he
>> can't remember who he was and hung up.
>>
>
> Verizon called, says people on this group have been overusing this
> particular expression, says your service will be disconnected if you don't
> pay your long distance bills.
>
> Also, they say you can save a bunch of money on their Triple Play Fios
> offer if you switch from Cablevision.

They are right and I did.
>
> =p=
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On Jun 27, 2:23 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just as there are the Bryants and Garnetts who have flourished in this
> game, and there are a lot of Americans who come in and sit or never
> play.
>
> Talent's talent. Trying to shoehorn everyone from Europe into a
> stereotype is a waste of time. The point here is, is this kid
> Gallinari really such a star on offense that you can overlook his lack
> of defense? Most of the time, players who can't play D (American,
> European, or from anywhere else) can't make up for their errors on the
> defensive end, regardless of how often they score. Throw him into a
> roster where there really isn't a single stopper and you're just
> asking for trouble, methinks.

Good point(s) We don't know yet about Gallinari because other than
highlights nobody has seen him play. But stereotyping Euro players is
stupid. 2007 Finals MVP is a European player. So was the 2007 League
MVP. Then there is Nikolas Tshikasvili who was picked 5thor 6th I
think overall by Denver.

Rizzo
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On Jun 27, 4:55 pm, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:19:25 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rizzo
>
> <champ91....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 26, 5:20 pm, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rizzo
>
> >> <champ91....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >Seriously, you had to see that one coming. NY fans are brutal . Give
> >> >the dude a chance . 80% of those racist fans booing haven't seen the
> >> >dude play. Geez....BOO he's white BOOO...
>
> >> >Rizzo
>
> >> I hear ya but the guys I saw boo were all white...
> >> But I agree give the poor kid a chance...
>
> >That's the self-loathing thing, lack of identity....
>
> If you believe that OK but what is racist about a lack of identity?

Too deep (and long winded) for this forum. If you really want my
opinion on that, because it is pretty detailed, email me.

Rizzo
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:19:25 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rizzo
<champ91917 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 26, 5:20 pm, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rizzo
>>
>> <champ91... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Seriously, you had to see that one coming. NY fans are brutal . Give
>> >the dude a chance . 80% of those racist fans booing haven't seen the
>> >dude play. Geez....BOO he's white BOOO...
>>
>> >Rizzo
>>
>> I hear ya but the guys I saw boo were all white...
>> But I agree give the poor kid a chance...
>
>That's the self-loathing thing, lack of identity....

If you believe that OK but what is racist about a lack of identity?
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:27:44 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rizzo
<champ91917 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 27, 4:59 am, Syfo-Dyas <Syfo-D... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT), Frank Rizzo
>>
>> <champ91... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Seriously, you had to see that one coming. NY fans are brutal . Give
>> >the dude a chance . 80% of those racist fans booing haven't seen the
>> >dude play. Geez....BOO he's white BOOO...
>>
>> >Rizzo
>>
>> Actually you can even look at the pics from the event in the daily
>> news ... All white guys booing......
>>
>> http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2008/06/26/2008-06-26_li...
>
>Still stereotyping..

Well I guess we will have to live with a little of that. Since I am
sure there is still racism.
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On Jun 30, 3:11 pm, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> "Noah" <dontsendmeyers....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:50d584e7-6d36-45f9-af67-1e2c75aa7799@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 8:41 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >  Look at how the fans love David
> > Lee and it isn't exactly for his game.
>
> Uh...what else would it be for?
>
> Sorry, I should have said his O game.

I guess I'm confused as to what it is you like about him. To me,
Lee's strength is basically his offensive rebounding -- in a manner
similar to what Camby used to do here, he's good at boxing out,
cleaning up the rim and turning all the bricks into putbacks (of which
there were many, given all the ill advised shots the Knicks jack up).
I don't think he plays particularly notable man on man defense, though
he often did appear to be trying, unlike most of his teammates. In
the era of rock bottom expectations, maybe that's enough for people.
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On Jun 30, 4:42 pm, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> so when he
> does leave, I may lose interest in this team all together.

I'm calling your bluff...I've heard you say that over and over again
over the years, but between your yawns and your claims of disinterest
you've never ceased to be on here multiple times a day. You're
cursed with the same fandom disease we all have around these parts.
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"Noah" <dontsendmeyerspam RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 27, 8:41 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack... RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> Look at how the fans love David
> Lee and it isn't exactly for his game.

Uh...what else would it be for?

Sorry, I should have said his O game.
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"Noah" <dontsendmeyerspam.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 3:11 pm, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
> "Noah" <dontsendmeyers....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:50d584e7-6d36-45f9-af67-1e2c75aa7799@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 27, 8:41 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Look at how the fans love David
> > Lee and it isn't exactly for his game.
>
> Uh...what else would it be for?
>
> Sorry, I should have said his O game.

I guess I'm confused as to what it is you like about him. To me,
Lee's strength is basically his offensive rebounding -- in a manner
similar to what Camby used to do here, he's good at boxing out,
cleaning up the rim and turning all the bricks into putbacks (of which
there were many, given all the ill advised shots the Knicks jack up).
I don't think he plays particularly notable man on man defense, though
he often did appear to be trying, unlike most of his teammates. In
the era of rock bottom expectations, maybe that's enough for people.

I like Lee as a rebounder and that is it. That is why I won't be shedding
any tears if he goes.
I do like Lee better than any other Knick at this moment though, so when he
does leave, I may lose interest in this team all together.
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:34:32 -0700 (PDT), Noah
<dontsendmeyerspam.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jun 30, 4:42 pm, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....DeleteThis@worldnet.att.net>
>wrote:
>
>> so when he
>> does leave, I may lose interest in this team all together.
>
>I'm calling your bluff...I've heard you say that over and over again
>over the years, but between your yawns and your claims of disinterest
>you've never ceased to be on here multiple times a day. You're
>cursed with the same fandom disease we all have around these parts.

Ditto!!! I concur with noah. Stop bullcraping us glenn you have said
that far too many times to be taken seriously. You glenn jackson or
greenstein are not going anywhere....
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