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Kurt Straub

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:52 pm
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Outstanding. Evans is ten times the better rebounder than Steven Hunter.

The only risk here is if Sammy is not ready to play 32-36 minutes a night at
center. Supposedly the injury on the Canadian team is non-concerning, let's
hope that is right! So for now, we will be counting on rookie Jason Smith
and new pick-up, journeyman Calvin Booth. to pick up the balance of the
minutes at the 5 spot.

Things are looking very solid at PF, with lots of young talent, between
Evan, Amundson, Herbert Hill, and Shavlik. Who will start, I guess that is
an open question. I expect Kyle Korver will get a lot of minutes at the 4
coming off the bench, no matter who starts.

----- Kurt Straub

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Ian Kognitow

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:01 am
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Who knew?--These are the kinds of moves that King has long neglected
or proven incapable of making. Evans is indeed an upgrade and
precisely the sort of player--a physically imposing rebounder--that
the team needed to bring in. And Calvin Booth I think was a fine pick-
up too as a real backup center for some spot play. With Evans around
I am even a bit more optimistic about playing Jason Smith, who without
having to be relied on so much for a post presence--which he didn't
show much of in summer league play--can be more of a scoring
complement to either Dalembert or Evans while on the floor.

If either Amundson or Hill show they can play 5-10 minutes or so a
game (I'd like to be able to forget about Randolph now) I actually
don't foresee Korver getting too much time at PF. Again, I'm thinking
he'll end up splitting time with Young, moving Iguodala back down
almost exclusively to SG. This of course brings back what would seem
to be the more serious roster issue with almost no time left for Green
or Carney (assuming Williams will get the backup PG time now). That's
not necessarily a problem to me but they would at least be greater
potential sources for discord.

--IK

On Sep 10, 7:52 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr....RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> Outstanding. Evans is ten times the better rebounder than Steven Hunter.
>
> The only risk here is if Sammy is not ready to play 32-36 minutes a night at
> center. Supposedly the injury on the Canadian team is non-concerning, let's
> hope that is right! So for now, we will be counting on rookie Jason Smith
> and new pick-up, journeyman Calvin Booth. to pick up the balance of the
> minutes at the 5 spot.
>
> Things are looking very solid at PF, with lots of young talent, between
> Evan, Amundson, Herbert Hill, and Shavlik. Who will start, I guess that is
> an open question. I expect Kyle Korver will get a lot of minutes at the 4
> coming off the bench, no matter who starts.
>
> ----- Kurt Straub

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:10 pm
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Ian, got any crystal ball predictions for opening night starter at PF?
Isn't Evans the most likely starter at this point?

Speaking of predictions, here's one: at the end of the year, Evans will
have *double* the minutes of Hunter.

--- Kurt Straub

"Ian Kognitow" <covanus.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Who knew?--These are the kinds of moves that King has long neglected
> or proven incapable of making. Evans is indeed an upgrade and
> precisely the sort of player--a physically imposing rebounder--that
> the team needed to bring in.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:31 am
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On Sep 12, 8:10 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ian, got any crystal ball predictions for opening night starter at PF?
> Isn't Evans the most likely starter at this point?
>
> Speaking of predictions, here's one: at the end of the year, Evans will
> have *double* the minutes of Hunter.


I think it has to be Evans. First, while it's nothing to brag about,
Hunter was the previous starter and I don't think too many GMs
conceive trades, especially in swapping players of the same position,
with the intention of giving up a starter for a backup. And secondly,
who else is there? Smith is a rookie who needs lots of development.
Same goes for Hill. Amundson looks like a very capable 3rd-stringer.
If somehow Shavlik Randolph is thrown back in there, something is
seriously wrong. Evans may have been stuck on Denver's bench but he
was a capable starter for Seattle in the past. He's certainly not
ideal but, yeah, if he's not getting at least 30 minutes a night given
Philadelphia's roster it will be very puzzling.
Here is a more complete prediction of minutes, as I see it (and of
course assuming no major injuries)

-Dalembert, C: 30-40 min (depending on foul trouble)
-Booth, C: 5-8 min.
-Smith ,C-PF: 5-8 min.
-Evans, PF: 30-35 min.
-Amundson, Hill, or Randolph (only one and in descending order of
probability): 0-5 min.
-Korver, SF-PF: 25-30 min.
-Young, SF-PF: 5-25 min (increasing as season progresses. Like Korver
may go to PF for small lineups)
-Iguodala, SG-SF: 40-45 min.
-Carney, SF-SF: 10-0 min. (decreasing as season progresses)
-Green, SG-PG: 20-0 min. (likely opening-night starter to get
decreasing minutes as season progresses.
-Miller, PG: 30-40 min.
-Williams, PG-SG: 5-15 min.


--IK
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:42 pm
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"Ian Kognitow" <covanus.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> -Young, SF-PF: 5-25 min (increasing as season progresses. Like Korver
> may go to PF for small lineups)

I was with you everywhere but here. Young is so skinny, I can't see him
playing any time at PF. If he does, he might get broken in half, and we can
kiss goodbye getting any boards. From what I saw of the guy, SF is likely
his best spot, and any other minutes he gets will be at SG. The whole issue
may be academic, as he may not get any minutes outside of mop-up time in
blowouts. I'm not dissing the guy, but he's very, er, young, and
inexperienced. He might be very entertaining to watch in garbage time.

---- Kurt Straub
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:45 pm
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On Sep 16, 2:42 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr... DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> "Ian Kognitow" <cova... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189758678.034022.130000@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > -Young, SF-PF: 5-25 min (increasing as season progresses. Like Korver
> > may go to PF for small lineups)
>
> I was with you everywhere but here. Young is so skinny, I can't see him
> playing any time at PF. If he does, he might get broken in half, and we can
> kiss goodbye getting any boards.

Really? He didn't look that thin to me, though admittedly I really
have only seen him from the rather distant cameras they were using in
summer league. He is listed at 6-8, 220 which is an inch and 10
pounds more than Korver, and I do remember some references to people
in the organization around the draft talking up his versatility,
saying he could play anywhere from SG-PF. In any case, if it happens
it would again only be for small lineups--the Don Nelson kind of small
lineup--where we could see something like Dalembert, Young, Iguodala,
Carney, and Williams trying to outrace everyone.
As far as inexperience goes, you may be right about his minutes, but
I'm working on the assumption that he'll gradually take any minutes
that Carney would otherwise get as the season goes on. Since he did
look like a much better rebounder (from the SF slot), I don't think
that's unreasonable. Besides, there's a strong possibility that the
Sixers will not really be in playoff contention by March so giving
Young 20 minutes or so a game after the all-star break might not be so
bad.

--IK
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:16 pm
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"Ian Kognitow" <covanus RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 16, 2:42 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Ian Kognitow" <cova... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1189758678.034022.130000@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > -Young, SF-PF: 5-25 min (increasing as season progresses. Like Korver
>> > may go to PF for small lineups)
>>
>> I was with you everywhere but here. Young is so skinny, I can't see him
>> playing any time at PF. If he does, he might get broken in half, and we
>> can
>> kiss goodbye getting any boards.
>
> Really? He didn't look that thin to me, though admittedly I really
> have only seen him from the rather distant cameras they were using in
> summer league. He is listed at 6-8, 220 which is an inch and 10
> pounds more than Korver,

I was amazed to see you are absolutely right about this, Korver is only
listed as 6-7, 210. Yet when I look at these two guys, Korver just looks
like a wider body with some shoulders that can pull some rebounds, at least
when he's not on offense playing at the arc. Young is listed as slightly
bigger on the roster, yet to my eyes he looks way too skinny to bang under
the boards. Go figure. Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
KK has shown he can hold his own at PF for stretches of time. Let's keep
our eyes open and see if Young is effective there (assuming the Sixers ever
play him at the four).

------ Kurt Straub

P.S. you don't suppose the team might be fudging these stats a bit on the
roster?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:48 pm
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On Sep 17, 7:16 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> "Ian Kognitow" <cova... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1190051787.467413.264040@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Sep 16, 2:42 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> >> "Ian Kognitow" <cova... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1189758678.034022.130000@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > -Young, SF-PF: 5-25 min (increasing as season progresses. Like Korver
> >> > may go to PF for small lineups)
>
> >> I was with you everywhere but here. Young is so skinny, I can't see him
> >> playing any time at PF. If he does, he might get broken in half, and we
> >> can
> >> kiss goodbye getting any boards.
>
> > Really? He didn't look that thin to me, though admittedly I really
> > have only seen him from the rather distant cameras they were using in
> > summer league. He is listed at 6-8, 220 which is an inch and 10
> > pounds more than Korver,
>
> I was amazed to see you are absolutely right about this, Korver is only
> listed as 6-7, 210. Yet when I look at these two guys, Korver just looks
> like a wider body with some shoulders that can pull some rebounds, at least
> when he's not on offense playing at the arc. Young is listed as slightly
> bigger on the roster, yet to my eyes he looks way too skinny to bang under
> the boards. Go figure. Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
> KK has shown he can hold his own at PF for stretches of time. Let's keep
> our eyes open and see if Young is effective there (assuming the Sixers ever
> play him at the four).
>
> ------ Kurt Straub
>
> P.S. you don't suppose the team might be fudging these stats a bit on the
> roster?

I looked at a few draft profiles and most of those showed 6-8, 210 or
6-8 217 so I think it might be accurate, assuming that he has been
hitting the weights this summer. In any case, any time he might get
at PF would certainly be a matchup thing. Yeah, it would be sad if he
were checking huge guys like Emeka Okafor or Zach Randolph, but he
could be placed against other marginal PFs like Andres Nocioni or
Marvin Williams. I would actually be interested to see, however, how
the Sixers might do with a small but super-fast running lineup like
the one mentioned above. I remember some talk of it when Carney was
drafted only to have it essentially killed by the continuing presence
of Webber. But it could be worth a shot if the Smith/Hill/Amundson
trio isn't worth any significant minutes this year.

--IK
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