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Since: Jun 15, 2007 Posts: 714
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:46 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:46 am
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On Jun 15, 6:55 am, Dave McNulla <mcnu....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 15, 4:46 am, " Jesus" <whowouldjesush....DeleteThis@gmail.com>
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> >www.tvsportsdaily.com
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> > Jesus
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> no matter what the format, things happen. you can't control who ends
> up in the finals with a preset format.
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> they should just decide the seeding at the beginning of each round
> based on what they think will bring the best ratings overall. that and
> make defense illegal.
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> dave
I am rethinking this reseeding issue. Say a team gets really good
just at the right time and upsets the number one seed (don't tell me
it would never happen), why then would that team not be rewarded now
with the route earned by the former number 1 seed? Are you saying
that a team gets hot at the right time will then be punished again
after they upset a higher seed? >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:46 am
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On Jun 15, 8:23 am, mozark <swoon... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > Athletically gifted but hardly "mind blowing good".
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> Save this post. Your friends will be making fun of it for the next 15
> years.
My friends will know that this was made based on his performance so
far. Does he have the potential to be mind blowingly good, yes. But
he has not achieved that yet. >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:46 am
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On Jun 15, 4:46 am, " Jesus" <whowouldjesush... DeleteThis @gmail.com>
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> www.tvsportsdaily.com
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> Jesus
no matter what the format, things happen. you can't control who ends
up in the finals with a preset format.
they should just decide the seeding at the beginning of each round
based on what they think will bring the best ratings overall. that and
make defense illegal.
dave >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:33 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:33 pm
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In article <1181917983.409067.180610.DeleteThis@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
mozark <swooning.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great piece, DbJ.
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> But don't you think that Mr. Sterno will just ramp up Eastern
> favortism, especially in the case of LBJ, who is mind-blowing good and
> a real class act?
Athletically gifted but hardly "mind blowing good". >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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Since: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 540
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:06 pm
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On 2007-06-15, ru2b12 <ru2b12.RemoveThis@nomayo.com> wrote:
> In article <1181917983.409067.180610.RemoveThis@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> mozark <swooning.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Great piece, DbJ.
>>
>> But don't you think that Mr. Sterno will just ramp up Eastern
>> favortism, especially in the case of LBJ, who is mind-blowing good and
>> a real class act?
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> Athletically gifted but hardly "mind blowing good".
He reverted to an Antoine Walker level performance for the
finals. The constant barrage of announcers trying to blame his
teammates instead was sickening. Z, Gooden, and Gibson stepped
up at home, while LeBron continued bricking jump-shots, turning
the ball over, and "setting up" his teammates for low percentage
shots.
Would it have been nice for his teammates to hit 36% of their
threes? I guess so. But expecting it was wrong. It's one thing if
James is creating layups and gimmes. He wasn't.
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Neil Cerutti >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:23 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:23 pm
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In article <1181920995.275382.234330.RemoveThis@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
mozark <swooning.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Athletically gifted but hardly "mind blowing good".
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> Save this post. Your friends will be making fun of it for the next 15
> years.
After Cleveland made the finals i asked my friends to call me after 4
games and tell me why they think he's so good... haven't heard from them
yet. ;-)
That's not to say he hasn't the potential to be but it's plain to see
that he's simply not there yet. >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:57 pm
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Neil Cerutti wrote:
> He reverted to an Antoine Walker level performance for the
> finals. The constant barrage of announcers trying to blame his
> teammates instead was sickening. Z, Gooden, and Gibson stepped
> up at home, while LeBron continued bricking jump-shots, turning
> the ball over, and "setting up" his teammates for low percentage
> shots.
>
> Would it have been nice for his teammates to hit 36% of their
> threes? I guess so. But expecting it was wrong. It's one thing if
> James is creating layups and gimmes. He wasn't.
Seriously. People were almost choking on spit to
annoint LeBron the greatest "team player" in the
history of the league after the ECF.
Too bad that being a "team player" means more than
passing the ball to your teammates and not being
named Kobe Bryant.
A "team player" doesn't pass a game-winning
opportunity to a player who has no business
getting the ball in that kind of situation, yet
that's exactly what LeBron did at the end of Game
3. Of course, everyone was making excuses and
blaming Varejao for trying to make a play.
John Barry said it best last night: LeBron needed
to play like Michael Jordan not Magic Johnson.
LeBron should do what Kobe did back in the 2000
off-season -- shoot jumpers everyday until he
makes 2000. A mid-range jumper isn't given to you. >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:59 pm
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In article <slrnf75aub.1lk.horpner RemoveThis @FIAD06.norwich.edu>,
Neil Cerutti <horpner RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> He reverted to an Antoine Walker level performance for the
> finals. The constant barrage of announcers trying to blame his
> teammates instead was sickening. Z, Gooden, and Gibson stepped
> up at home, while LeBron continued bricking jump-shots, turning
> the ball over, and "setting up" his teammates for low percentage
> shots.
>
> Would it have been nice for his teammates to hit 36% of their
> threes? I guess so. But expecting it was wrong. It's one thing if
> James is creating layups and gimmes. He wasn't.
Not to mention his coach. Drew Gooden was really the only guy playing
better than he usually does, and he sat for a long, long time in the 4th
quarter -- especially that one possession when the Spurs had 3 or 4
offensive boards and kept the ball from about the 3:30 mark until less
than 2 minutes were remaining. There were moves like that all over the
place -- it was awesome to hear the likes of Doug Collins and Jeff Van
Gundy (washed out coaches) and Mark Jackson (a wannabe coach) ponder his
competance throughout the last two series. >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:59 pm
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"PeterL" <po.ning DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181924577.785032.14860@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 15, 6:55 am, Dave McNulla <mcnu... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 15, 4:46 am, " Jesus" <whowouldjesush... DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >www.tvsportsdaily.com
>>
>> > Jesus
>>
>> no matter what the format, things happen. you can't control who ends
>> up in the finals with a preset format.
>>
>> they should just decide the seeding at the beginning of each round
>> based on what they think will bring the best ratings overall. that and
>> make defense illegal.
>>
>> dave
>
>
>
> I am rethinking this reseeding issue. Say a team gets really good
> just at the right time and upsets the number one seed (don't tell me
> it would never happen), why then would that team not be rewarded now
> with the route earned by the former number 1 seed? Are you saying
> that a team gets hot at the right time will then be punished again
> after they upset a higher seed?
Why do you see it as punished? Just because they were good enough to
beat the number 1 seed their seed should be moved up? If that is the case,
why even play the regular season? It has to count for something.
Jesus >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:40 am
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On 2007-06-15, D. Frank <youget.RemoveThis@thegasface.dun> wrote:
> John Barry said it best last night: LeBron needed to play like
> Michael Jordan not Magic Johnson.
I know what Mr. Barry means (*score* you nitwit!), but it would
have been plenty good enough for LeBron to play like Magic
Johnson. He played like, well, Antoine Walker, as I said. Except
he didn't shoot enough threes.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:12 am
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On Jun 16, 7:40 am, Neil Cerutti <horp... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2007-06-15, D. Frank <you... DeleteThis @thegasface.dun> wrote:
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> > John Barry said it best last night: LeBron needed to play like
> > Michael Jordan not Magic Johnson.
>
> I know what Mr. Barry means (*score* you nitwit!), but it would
> have been plenty good enough for LeBron to play like Magic
> Johnson. He played like, well, Antoine Walker, as I said. Except
> he didn't shoot enough threes.
>
> --
> Neil Cerutti
The finals are fixed anyways.It's about the green. >> Stay informed about: The Irrelevancy of the NBA Finals |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:41 am
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On Jun 20, 12:36 pm, Neil Cerutti <horp... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2007-06-20, batface <jessefres... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 16, 7:40 am, Neil Cerutti <horp... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 2007-06-15, D. Frank <you... RemoveThis @thegasface.dun> wrote:
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> >> > John Barry said it best last night: LeBron needed to play like
> >> > Michael Jordan not Magic Johnson.
>
> >> I know what Mr. Barry means (*score* you nitwit!), but it would
> >> have been plenty good enough for LeBron to play like Magic
> >> Johnson. He played like, well, Antoine Walker, as I said. Except
> >> he didn't shoot enough threes.
> > The finals are fixed anyways.It's about the green.
>
> How did Lebron's unfettered failure in his first finals
> appearance help anyone acquire more green?
>
> --
> Neil Cerutti
He's the Golden Boy, so they had to introduce him to the spotlight.He
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