Jazz fans are retarded

"Henrik Grindal Bakken" <hgb RemoveThis @ifi.uio.no> wrote in message
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> Yeah, agreed, but he still didn't go for the ball, he went for the
> (hard) foul.

I think it is a mix. He was going for the ball and then decided to take a
hard foul by keeping linko' from getting the easy basket... but that all
happened in less than a second...
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "GMAN" <glenzabr.DeleteThis@dontspammebro.xmission.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <TBOzj.7361$dB.6908@trnddc01>, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!"
>> <No1Exists1.DeleteThis@Earth1.net> wrote:
>> The Commissioner felt otherwise.
>
> The Commissioner does not make the call. The executive does. See, I
> wish you Jazz fans knew a bit more about basketball other than what
> you think you see.

Stu makes the call and can upgrade or downgrade or rescind a flagrant and
recommends penalties after it is reviewed...The buck stops at Stern's desk
even if a desinee announces it. Only penalties over 10 games can be
arbitrated past Stern's decission for in game conduct.

Both of these rules say the Commisioner not Stu's "Executive Vice President
of Basketball Operations".

NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION UNIFORM PLAYER CONTRACT
d) The Player agrees to be bound by Article 35 of the NBA Constitution, a
copy of which, as in effect on the date of this Contract, is attached
hereto. The Player acknowledges that the Commissioner is empowered to impose
fines upon and/or suspend the Player for causes and in the manner provided
in such Article, provided that such fines and/or suspensions are consistent
with the terms of the CBA.

Rule book

B. FOULS: FLAGRANT—UNSPORTSMANLIKE
A flagrant foul—penalty (2) is unnecessary and excessive contact committed
by a player against an opponent. It is an unsportsmanlike act and the
offender is
ejected immediately.
The offender will be subject to a fine not exceeding $50,000 and/or
suspension by the Commissioner.


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Dayrl wrote:

>. BTW, Golden State says hi and wants to meet you in the
> playoffs. Only the second time ever an 8 beats a 1

3rd time. Denver over Seattle
Knicks over Miami in 99
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Stern almost never makes a decision to suspend. It is almost always left to
Stu Jackson. Stu Jackson made the decision in this case, just like all
others...

The End!
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> Stern almost never makes a decision to suspend. It is almost always
> left to Stu Jackson. Stu Jackson made the decision in this case, just
> like all others...
>

Stern has to approve every decission on the penalties and sign the
notifications to team and player...even if he just rubber stamps Jackson or
the others reviewing it still his decission. As per the rules the player is
suspended by Stern.

> The End!

Indeed...

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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dayrl wrote:
>
>>. BTW, Golden State says hi and wants to meet you in the
>> playoffs. Only the second time ever an 8 beats a 1
>
> 3rd time. Denver over Seattle
> Knicks over Miami in 99

and if we go with a best of 5... first round... Dallas over Utah?
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Dayrl wrote:
>>
>>> . BTW, Golden State says hi and wants to meet you in the
>>> playoffs. Only the second time ever an 8 beats a 1
>>
>> 3rd time. Denver over Seattle
>> Knicks over Miami in 99
>
> and if we go with a best of 5... first round...

Would be rather hard for #1 to meet #8 any other round...

>Dallas over Utah?

Not sure when or what you are refering to...but the answer is no. =)

8th seed defeating 1st has happened 3 times

93 Denver over Seattle 3-2... Beat in 2nd round in 7 games by Utah
99 Knicks over Miami... 3-2 advanced to finals, lost 4-1 to SAS
07 GSW over Dallas ... 4-2 Beat in 2nd round in 5 games by Utah


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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>> Stern almost never makes a decision to suspend. It is almost always
>> left to Stu Jackson. Stu Jackson made the decision in this case, just
>> like all others...
>>
>
> Stern has to approve every decission on the penalties and sign the
> notifications to team and player...even if he just rubber stamps Jackson
> or the others reviewing it still his decission. As per the rules the
> player is suspended by Stern.

Stu Jackson makes the call. Rubber stamp is right.

Pay attention!

Suspended forward says NBA watchdogs haven't played the game


11:05 PM CST on Thursday, March 6, 2008

By DAVID MOORE / The Dallas Morning News
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"Stu Jackson, the league's executive vice president of basketball
operations, handed down the suspension. He never played in the league, but
he was an NBA coach. He used the phrase "excessive force" in describing the
suspension. "
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:63hbn0F279805U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>> Stern almost never makes a decision to suspend. It is almost always
>>> left to Stu Jackson. Stu Jackson made the decision in this case,
>>> just like all others...
>>>
>>
>> Stern has to approve every decision on the penalties and sign the
>> notifications to team and player...even if he just rubber stamps
>> Jackson or the others reviewing it still his decision. As per the
>> rules the player is suspended by Stern.
>
> Stu Jackson makes the call. Rubber stamp is right.
>
> Pay attention!
>
> Suspended forward says NBA watchdogs haven't played the game
>
>
> 11:05 PM CST on Thursday, March 6, 2008
>
> By DAVID MOORE / The Dallas Morning News
> dmoore.DeleteThis@dallasnews.com
>
> "Stu Jackson, the league's executive vice president of basketball
> operations, handed down the suspension. He never played in the
> league, but he was an NBA coach. He used the phrase "excessive force"
> in describing the suspension. "

That a reporter uses 'handed down' just means he hated to copy the rest that
said 'announced'

http://www.star-telegram.com/287/story/516840.html
By JAN HUBBARD
Star-Telegram Staff Writer
The suspension was announced by Stu Jackson, the NBA's executive vice
president of basketball operations

http://www.nba.com/news/nowitzki_suspended_080305.html
it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Executive Vice President,
Basketball Operations.


That Stu announced it because Stern was out of town does not change the
rules, even though he is in charge of discipline and the rest of on court
operations Stern still had to approve....Stern has the
authority to overrule Stu, not the other way around. A appeal would be
Stern's too. Hunt it up otherwise in the CBA www.nbpa.com or the rules.


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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dayrl wrote:
>
>>. BTW, Golden State says hi and wants to meet you in the
>> playoffs. Only the second time ever an 8 beats a 1
>
> 3rd time. Denver over Seattle
> Knicks over Miami in 99

You are absolutely right. Third time a 1 seed choked but the Knicks series
did have extenuating circumstances. The Van Gundy holding on for dear life
series I believe.
>
>
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Dayrl wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Dayrl wrote:
>>
>>> . BTW, Golden State says hi and wants to meet you in the
>>> playoffs. Only the second time ever an 8 beats a 1
>>
>> 3rd time. Denver over Seattle
>> Knicks over Miami in 99
>
> You are absolutely right. Third time a 1 seed choked but the Knicks
> series did have extenuating circumstances. The Van Gundy holding on
> for dear life series I believe.

That was the series in 1998. ...lol...still likely the funniest brawl scene
ever...
This one it came down to the last second of game 5 and Allan Houston hit a
running one hander.

Was more to the lock-out as an excuse for Miami.
Knicks were coming on and likely would have been a higher seed in an 82
game season.


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"Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No1Exists1.RemoveThis@Earth71.net> wrote in message
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> "Dayrl" <Dayrl.RemoveThis@comcast.com> wrote in message
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>>> Jazz fans are mostly Mormons.
>>
>> Prove it. SLC isn't mostly Mormons.
>
> SLC is not, but all the surrounding suburbs where people can actually
> afford to attend the games are indeed Mormon.
>

So more drivel without proof. Show us some proof or admit you're simply
pontificating.
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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That a reporter uses 'handed down' just means he hated to copy the rest
> that said 'announced'
>
> http://www.star-telegram.com/287/story/516840.html
> By JAN HUBBARD
> Star-Telegram Staff Writer
> The suspension was announced by Stu Jackson, the NBA's executive vice
> president of basketball operations
>
> http://www.nba.com/news/nowitzki_suspended_080305.html
> it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Executive Vice President,
> Basketball Operations.
>
>
> That Stu announced it because Stern was out of town does not change the
> rules, even though he is in charge of discipline and the rest of on court
> operations Stern still had to approve....Stern has the
> authority to overrule Stu, not the other way around. A appeal would be
> Stern's too. Hunt it up otherwise in the CBA www.nbpa.com or the rules.

So here we see that not only did Stu Jackson upgrade the foul but announced
it also.

Good try at samantics kid.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basketball/heat/sfl-0307heat,0,5543214.story
"We felt the flagrant foul penalty one should be upgraded," said Stu
Jackson, the league's executive vice president of basketball operations. "It
fit the criteria of being excessive contact.

"We can consider a variety of different factors in terms of upgrading and
fining or suspending. It's not just limited to the severity of the contact
but to whether or not the player was injured on the play."
http://www.khou.com/sports/rockets/stories/khou080306_ac_mavssuspended...fcdfda.

"Following a subsequent review, the foul was upgraded to a penalty two
violation, NBA executive vice-president of basketball operations Stu Jackson
said in a statement. "
http://torontosun.com/Sports/Basketball/2008/03/06/4923951-sun.html

"NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson
re-evaluated the incident and upgraded the foul to a flagrant, penalty two,
making his announcement Wednesday."
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=n...news/ne
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