Jermaine O'Neal blames racism again

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:55:32 -0500, "Sébastien Poitras"
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>> On 17 Jan 2005 07:37:15 -0800, jslater.TakeThisOut@utnet.utoledo.edu wrote:
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>>>I think O'Neal's point--and it's a fair one--is this. When white
>>>players or fans do bad things, like baseball or hockey players going
>>>into the stands, or baseball fans rushing onto the field to attack a
>>>first base coach, or soccer hooligans do what they do, etc., we rightly
>>>blame the people involved BUT we don't hear black radio and TV
>>>personalities blaming these acts on "white culture," the music whites
>>>listen to, etc. On the other hand, we did have to listen to the Rush
>>>Limbaughs of the world and others blame "black culture,"
>>
>> It's not specifically "black culture," but the culture of the poor. Go
>> work in the inner city of Detroit for an extended period of time and
>> you'll be whistling a different. If Artest wasn't playing basketball
>> there is an excellent chance he'd be in prison.
>
>Maybe he'd be, and probably on a ridiculous charge like possession of a
>quarter ounce of weed. This happens to millions of Americans (I remember
>reading 1 million for weed alone), and a huge majority of these people are
>not white, and not rich.

With his temper it most likely would be some sort of murder charge.
>
>So are the poors socially bound to be criminals?

Yes the poor are more apt to commit criminal acts than say someone
that is middle class. The poor are more prone to commit criminal acts
the involve violence too. Just the other day three black kids (15,16
and 17 year old from Detroit) held-up a local party store in
Southfield, MI.Southfield is what most would consider a middle class
suburb of Detroit with a diverse ethnic base that is majority Black.
Will the owner gave them the money, but they accuse him of not giving
them all and threatened to kill him and a customer. The owner then
preceded to blow the seventeen year old away. Unfortunately was able
to blow the other two away.

>Or is it because the police
>are only looking for criminals in the inner cities?

Crime is everywhere, but you don't even have to look for it to find it
in the inner city. This is from someone that stuck up four times.
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> xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net <xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> scribbled:
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>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:16:39 -0500, "Sébastien Poitras"
>> <sebastien.poitrasSPAMBLOWS.RemoveThis@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> Probably not an idiot, but an employee of a company that is owned by
>>> General Electrics. GE is one of the most prominent and long lasting
>>> providers (contractors?) for the American army, so no wonder why
>>> they try to push the conservative agenda.
>>>
>> Hmm. I wasn't aware that NBC was owned by GE. It's pretty obvious
>> don't know who Brian Williams is so I'll help. He's the guy that is
>> taking Tom Brokaw's place anchoring NBC nightly news. Now who is the
>> idiot?
>
> what the hell?
>
> can someone translate this into something that makes sense?


He means he doesn't know that NBC Universal is 80% owned by GE.
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xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2005 07:37:15 -0800, jslater.RemoveThis@utnet.utoledo.edu wrote:
>
> >I think O'Neal's point--and it's a fair one--is this. When white
> >players or fans do bad things, like baseball or hockey players going
> >into the stands, or baseball fans rushing onto the field to attack a
> >first base coach, or soccer hooligans do what they do, etc., we
rightly
> >blame the people involved BUT we don't hear black radio and TV
> >personalities blaming these acts on "white culture," the music
whites
> >listen to, etc. On the other hand, we did have to listen to the
Rush
> >Limbaughs of the world and others blame "black culture,"
>
> It's not specifically "black culture," but the culture of the poor.

A valid point, but lots of folks were blaming "black culture," not the
culture of the poor, so O'Neal still had a valid point too.

Go
> work in the inner city of Detroit for an extended period of time and
> you'll be whistling a different. If Artest wasn't playing basketball
> there is an excellent chance he'd be in prison.

Actually, for what it's worth, I have worked in the inner city of
Detroit.--Joe

> >
> >Now, let's get back to watching some games and remember the message
of
> >nonviolence and loving your brother of Martin Luther King, Jr. And
> >it's pretty nice to have the day game be defending champs Pistons
> >against best record in the NBA Suns.--Joe
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> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:39:41 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" <me.TakeThisOut@server.net>
> wrote:
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>> xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net <xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> scribbled:
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>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:16:39 -0500, "Sébastien Poitras"
>>> <sebastien.poitrasSPAMBLOWS.TakeThisOut@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Probably not an idiot, but an employee of a company that is owned
>>>> by General Electrics. GE is one of the most prominent and long
>>>> lasting providers (contractors?) for the American army, so no
>>>> wonder why they try to push the conservative agenda.
>>>>
>>> Hmm. I wasn't aware that NBC was owned by GE. It's pretty obvious
>>> don't know who Brian Williams is so I'll help. He's the guy that is
>>> taking Tom Brokaw's place anchoring NBC nightly news. Now who is
>>> the idiot?
>>
>> what the hell?
>>
>> can someone translate this into something that makes sense?
>
> Sorry I left out you, Was that to tough for you to figure out?

NBC is mostly owned by GE (which apparently you didn't know, or are confused
about?). Brian Williams works for NBC, therefore GE. GE (according to
another poster) is in ca-hoots with the military (in a sense). So Brian
Williams (who works for NBC and GE) agreeing with Limbaugh (or his parent
company? or the name of this show? I don't know) doesn't really prove
anything.

Why are you insisting that someone is denying who Brian Williams is or who
he works for?

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:37:19 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" <me.TakeThisOut@server.net>
wrote:

>xpenenyx@earthlink.net <xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> scribbled:
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>>
>> Rush Limbaugh hosts the highest rated national radio talk show in
>> America. He is known as the media pundit who reshaped the political
>> landscape with his entertaining and informative brand of conservatism.
>> Syndicated on 600 radio stations, Limbaugh has the most listened to
>> talk show with 20 million people tuning in each week.
>
>which is under 10% of the country..bfd.

You're deflectioning. That's a huge audience adult audience.
>
>Art Bell had a huge following, using him as a source of something doesn't
>mean anything.

How huge? It he was so huge why wasn't he on the air during "normal"
hours. I don't believe his program was even broadcast here (Detroit)
which is a major market. BTW what exactly did Limbaugh say and what
wasn't valid?

>> Limbaugh's show is carried on WJR "The Great Voice of the
>> Great.Lakes." and you are sadly misinformed if you think WERe's
>> listeners are idiots. Brian Williams, not the stiff that played for
>> the Pistons, has said he listens to Limelight and says Limelight
>> doesn't get the credit he deserves. Is Brian Williams an idiot too?
>
>whats this have to do with anything?

That NBC's nightly anchor man both listens to and believes Limbaugh
doesn't get the credit he deserves. If someone like as mainstream as
Williams thinks this it goes to reason that Limbaugh's audience is
made up of not just a bunch of right wing yahoos.

BTW why do you edit without acknowledging it?
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On 20 Jan 2005 08:03:20 -0800, jslater.TakeThisOut@utnet.utoledo.edu wrote:

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>xpenenyx@earthlink.net wrote:
>> On 17 Jan 2005 07:37:15 -0800, jslater.TakeThisOut@utnet.utoledo.edu wrote:
>>
>> >I think O'Neal's point--and it's a fair one--is this. When white
>> >players or fans do bad things, like baseball or hockey players going
>> >into the stands, or baseball fans rushing onto the field to attack a
>> >first base coach, or soccer hooligans do what they do, etc., we
>rightly
>> >blame the people involved BUT we don't hear black radio and TV
>> >personalities blaming these acts on "white culture," the music
>whites
>> >listen to, etc. On the other hand, we did have to listen to the
>Rush
>> >Limbaughs of the world and others blame "black culture,"
>>
>> It's not specifically "black culture," but the culture of the poor.
>
>A valid point, but lots of folks were blaming "black culture," not the
>culture of the poor, so O'Neal still had a valid point too.
>
>Go
>> work in the inner city of Detroit for an extended period of time and
>> you'll be whistling a different. If Artest wasn't playing basketball
>> there is an excellent chance he'd be in prison.
>
>Actually, for what it's worth, I have worked in the inner city of
>Detroit.--Joe

There is a difference between working in Detroit and working in
Detroit where you have actually gone into peoples houses everyday. I
bet you haven't while I have. The area I worked from 1976 - 1977 was
Oakland and Holbrook. It was the area where many of Motown's singers
came from. Levi Stubbs talking about it in the 50s described it as a
bad area. In the 80s it had the contained the seven busiest drug
corners. I've been in the Brewster projects that you've only seen from
the expressway. I knew was a friend of sorts with Donald Murphy who
turned out to be a serial prostitute killer in the early 80s. I can go
on if you'd like, but I think I have a tad more insight about the
inner city poor than most.
>
>> >
>> >Now, let's get back to watching some games and remember the message
>of
>> >nonviolence and loving your brother of Martin Luther King, Jr. And
>> >it's pretty nice to have the day game be defending champs Pistons
>> >against best record in the NBA Suns.--Joe
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:07:42 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" <me.TakeThisOut@server.net>
wrote:

>xpenenyx@earthlink.net <xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> scribbled:
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>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:39:41 -0800, "Blazer Fan Dan" <me.TakeThisOut@server.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net <xpenenyx.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> scribbled:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:16:39 -0500, "Sébastien Poitras"
>>>> <sebastien.poitrasSPAMBLOWS.TakeThisOut@videotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably not an idiot, but an employee of a company that is owned
>>>>> by General Electrics. GE is one of the most prominent and long
>>>>> lasting providers (contractors?) for the American army, so no
>>>>> wonder why they try to push the conservative agenda.
>>>>>
>>>> Hmm. I wasn't aware that NBC was owned by GE. It's pretty obvious
>>>> don't know who Brian Williams is so I'll help. He's the guy that is
>>>> taking Tom Brokaw's place anchoring NBC nightly news. Now who is
>>>> the idiot?
>>>
>>> what the hell?
>>>
>>> can someone translate this into something that makes sense?
>>
>> Sorry I left out you, Was that to tough for you to figure out?
>
>NBC is mostly owned by GE (which apparently you didn't know, or are confused
>about?). Brian Williams works for NBC, therefore GE. GE (according to
>another poster) is in ca-hoots with the military (in a sense). So Brian
>Williams (who works for NBC and GE) agreeing with Limbaugh (or his parent
>company? or the name of this show? I don't know) doesn't really prove
>anything.
>
>Why are you insisting that someone is denying who Brian Williams is or who
>he works for?

I never said that. I asked a simple question if, I believe it was you,
if Brian Williams was an idiot. To which your reply was something
about GE supplying the war machine. So again I ask is Brian Williams
an idiot?
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xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net <xpenenyx.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> scribbled:

> I never said that. I asked a simple question if, I believe it was you,
> if Brian Williams was an idiot. To which your reply was something
> about GE supplying the war machine. So again I ask is Brian Williams
> an idiot?

in the manner that he might think that Limbaugh is a great source of
information, than yes. he is an idiot.

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