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s_knight8

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:26 am
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sonics/2002229169_allen03.html

Finalists are chosen by anonymous screening committees and must get 18 of 24
votes - 75 percent - from an equally anonymous "honors committee" for
induction.

In the past, I've railed against the clandestine nature of the proceedings.
Talk to a dozen or so basketball people, and no one seems to know how one
gets elected or chosen for consideration.

"It's the most asinine system in the world, and I'll never again step foot
inside that place after some of injustices that have been made in the past,"
said Jerry Krause, former Chicago Bulls president. "I decided that years
ago. I'll never go back. Basketball's Hall of Fame doesn't hold the same
prestige as baseball's and the NFL's, and that's because the people running
it have no credibility."

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:43 am
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In a prepared statement, the Basketball Hall of Fame replied "Marcus
Fizer."

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:23 pm
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Frank Sereno wrote:
> Well, that's a funny joke, but while Krause may have made some poor
> draft choices, he is pretty much spot-on in his assessment of the
> Basketball Hall of Fame. Did you realize that neither Johnny "Red"
Kerr
> nor Tex Winter are in the Basketball Hall of Fame? Neither is Jerry
> Sloan. These omissions are quite ridiculous. Even more glaring is
the
> omission of Dominique Wilkens. Take a look at the people who have
been
> inducted and you might scratch your head at many of the names.

Yeah, to be fair, the article doesn't make a specific attribution for
Krause's quote but he was almost certainly doing it on Johnny "Red"
Kerr's behalf, and if so he was in the right. For all of his faults,
Krause would never hesitate to put his bluster at work for a guy who's
been in the organization like Red.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:31 pm
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d2riq3$dcq@dispatch.concentric.net...
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sonics/2002229169_allen03.html
>
> Finalists are chosen by anonymous screening committees and must get 18 of
> 24
> votes - 75 percent - from an equally anonymous "honors committee" for
> induction.
>
> In the past, I've railed against the clandestine nature of the
> proceedings.
> Talk to a dozen or so basketball people, and no one seems to know how one
> gets elected or chosen for consideration.
>
> "It's the most asinine system in the world, and I'll never again step foot
> inside that place after some of injustices that have been made in the
> past,"
> said Jerry Krause, former Chicago Bulls president. "I decided that years
> ago. I'll never go back. Basketball's Hall of Fame doesn't hold the same
> prestige as baseball's and the NFL's, and that's because the people
> running
> it have no credibility."
>
>
>

Krause is definately the guy to go to when you need a
judge of credibility. Jesus this guy is dumb.

I doubt if anyone other than the guy who has the
ice cream concession cares if Krause "steps foot"
in the place again. Its a little surprising to see Jerry
carry on so about it because I thought the baseball
thing was going so well for him.........


td
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Frank Sereno

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:14 pm
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Marc Heiden wrote:
> In a prepared statement, the Basketball Hall of Fame replied "Marcus
> Fizer."
>

Well, that's a funny joke, but while Krause may have made some poor
draft choices, he is pretty much spot-on in his assessment of the
Basketball Hall of Fame. Did you realize that neither Johnny "Red" Kerr
nor Tex Winter are in the Basketball Hall of Fame? Neither is Jerry
Sloan. These omissions are quite ridiculous. Even more glaring is the
omission of Dominique Wilkens. Take a look at the people who have been
inducted and you might scratch your head at many of the names.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:30 pm
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"Frank Sereno" <fserenonospam DeleteThis @nospamsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Marc Heiden wrote:
>> In a prepared statement, the Basketball Hall of Fame replied "Marcus
>> Fizer."
>>
>
> Well, that's a funny joke, but while Krause may have made some poor draft
> choices, he is pretty much spot-on in his assessment of the Basketball
> Hall of Fame. Did you realize that neither Johnny "Red" Kerr nor Tex
> Winter are in the Basketball Hall of Fame? Neither is Jerry Sloan. These
> omissions are quite ridiculous. Even more glaring is the omission of
> Dominique Wilkens. Take a look at the people who have been inducted and
> you might scratch your head at many of the names.

The place may or may not be stupid, that isn't the point. Krause has
been lobbying for Winter for YEARS, and God bless him for it, but
if you are trying to get a guy into a place and have spent a good deal
of energy doing so it probably isn't the best idea to start trashing
the joint. I mean I don't have the kind of genuis for interpersonal
relationships that Krause does but its hard for me to see how he
has done Winters any good with this little blow up. Beyond that
you can go to your grave knowing that if Winters does ever get
in Krause will deny ever having said a word against the place
and blame the whole deal on the media. Thats why the guy is
an idiot.

td
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Frank Sereno

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:17 pm
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td wrote:

> "Frank Sereno" <fserenonospam RemoveThis @nospamsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Heh4e.20653$sj6.5155@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Marc Heiden wrote:
>>
>>>In a prepared statement, the Basketball Hall of Fame replied "Marcus
>>>Fizer."
>>>
>>
>>Well, that's a funny joke, but while Krause may have made some poor draft
>>choices, he is pretty much spot-on in his assessment of the Basketball
>>Hall of Fame. Did you realize that neither Johnny "Red" Kerr nor Tex
>>Winter are in the Basketball Hall of Fame? Neither is Jerry Sloan. These
>>omissions are quite ridiculous. Even more glaring is the omission of
>>Dominique Wilkens. Take a look at the people who have been inducted and
>>you might scratch your head at many of the names.
>
>
> The place may or may not be stupid, that isn't the point. Krause has
> been lobbying for Winter for YEARS, and God bless him for it, but
> if you are trying to get a guy into a place and have spent a good deal
> of energy doing so it probably isn't the best idea to start trashing
> the joint. I mean I don't have the kind of genuis for interpersonal
> relationships that Krause does but its hard for me to see how he
> has done Winters any good with this little blow up. Beyond that
> you can go to your grave knowing that if Winters does ever get
> in Krause will deny ever having said a word against the place
> and blame the whole deal on the media. Thats why the guy is
> an idiot.
>
> td
>

He's socially inept, but I don't know if that qualifies him as an idiot.
For all his flaws, Krause did generally manage the Bulls to six
championships. Perhaps if his ego hadn't been so large, it could have
been more. We could have that debate until the end of time.

I'm not going to defend Krause for things he did or didn't do. I do
think it's time for Bulls fans to quit taking cheap shots at him. And I
have to admit that over the years I've taken my share, but it's time to
put that behind me. The team is finally having success and there's
nothing to be gained by dwelling on the Krause's failures.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:27 pm
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>
> He's socially inept, but I don't know if that qualifies him as an idiot.
> For all his flaws, Krause did generally manage the Bulls to six
> championships. Perhaps if his ego hadn't been so large, it could have
> been more. We could have that debate until the end of time.

You're right. His two left social feet don't qualify him
as an idiot, its mostly the idiotic things he does that
qualify him.


> I'm not going to defend Krause for things he did or didn't do. I do think
> it's time for Bulls fans to quit taking cheap shots at him. And I have to
> admit that over the years I've taken my share, but it's time to put that
> behind me. The team is finally having success and there's nothing to be
> gained by dwelling on the Krause's failures.

As long as Krause wants to say dumb things Im gonna point
my finger at him and say that its dumb. We've earned that.


td
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:20 am
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s_knight8nospam DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sonics/2002229169_allen03.html
> Finalists are chosen by anonymous screening committees and must get 18 of 24
> votes - 75 percent - from an equally anonymous "honors committee" for
> induction.
> In the past, I've railed against the clandestine nature of the proceedings.
> Talk to a dozen or so basketball people, and no one seems to know how one
> gets elected or chosen for consideration.
> "It's the most asinine system in the world, and I'll never again step foot
> inside that place after some of injustices that have been made in the past,"
> said Jerry Krause, former Chicago Bulls president. "I decided that years
> ago. I'll never go back. Basketball's Hall of Fame doesn't hold the same
> prestige as baseball's and the NFL's, and that's because the people running
> it have no credibility."

Great!

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