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Kai Haberzettl

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:42 am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Artest#Controversy

No matter what he brings on the court, I'm against it.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:42 am
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On Jul 10, 11:42�pm, Kai Haberzettl <kai-use... RemoveThis @khaberz.net> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Artest#Controversy
>
> No matter what he brings on the court, I'm against it.

I agree. Artest is definitely talented, but I consider him mentally
ill, and I'd think there's too much risk in him bringing his
sociopathological cancer to the Lakers.

Pass on Artest, and fer crissakes don't trade LO for him!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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Kai Haberzettl <kai-usenet.RemoveThis@khaberz.net> wrote in
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Artest#Controversy
>
> No matter what he brings on the court, I'm against it.
>
co-sign. Remember Rodman?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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theBZA wrote:
> Kai Haberzettl <kai-usenet RemoveThis @khaberz.net> wrote in
> news:m2od546hwb.fsf@trillian.khaberz.net:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Artest#Controversy
>>
>> No matter what he brings on the court, I'm against it.
>>
> co-sign. Remember Rodman?
>



Artest is nothing like Rodman. They're two completely different players
and men. Check Artest's stats last season and then think about the D he
brings. This is a no-brainer trade and the Lakers will take it if Sacto
is willing to part with Ron. There's no two ways about it. Thankfully,
Laker management won't be running the team on misguided emotion. Odom
out, Artest in = championship.

-JC
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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> Artest is nothing like Rodman.  They're two completely different players
> and men.  Check Artest's stats last season and then think about the D he
> brings.  This is a no-brainer trade and the Lakers will take it if Sacto
> is willing to part with Ron.  There's no two ways about it.  Thankfully,
> Laker management won't be running the team on misguided emotion.  Odom
> out, Artest in = championship.

Co-sign.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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> > Co-sign.
>
> Didn't you complain that last years' Lakers were very unlikeable
> overall? This is not going to get much better by adding Artest...

A criminal goof-ball makes them much more likeable. :-) Sort of like
adding Hunter S. Thompson.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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> What catastrophe has he caused recently?

He pretty much has behaved himself in Cow Town (something I didn't
think he would do) but would the Bright Lights/Big City do him in?

But it is all moot - he didn't opt out and the Kings would rather die
than trade anything to the Lakers unless it was so lopsided they
couldn't pass it up (like Butler for Kwame).
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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On Jul 11, 8:47 am, Avant Grape <avantnograpec....DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> pauls2....DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> What catastrophe has he caused recently?
>
> > He pretty much has behaved himself in Cow Town (something I didn't
> > think he would do)  but would the Bright Lights/Big City do him in?
>
> > But it is all moot - he didn't opt out and the Kings would rather die
> > than trade anything to the Lakers unless it was so lopsided they
> > couldn't pass it up (like Butler for Kwame).
>
> Yeah, that's the thing.  They'd have to see Odom in a different light
> than I see him in, and I'm not sure they are that stupid.  But, if they
> wanted to do the trade, there's no doubt that Mitch would pull the
> trigger IMO.
>
> -JC

We don't need this guy in the locker room messing up the team
chemistry. What a huge mistake this would be.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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On Jul 11, 7:19 am, Kai Haberzettl <kai-use....DeleteThis@khaberz.net> wrote:
> mozark <swoon....DeleteThis@gmail.com> writes:
> >> Artest is nothing like Rodman.  They're two completely different players
> >> and men.  Check Artest's stats last season and then think about the D he
> >> brings.  This is a no-brainer trade and the Lakers will take it if Sacto
> >> is willing to part with Ron.  There's no two ways about it.  Thankfully,
> >> Laker management won't be running the team on misguided emotion.  Odom
> >> out, Artest in = championship.
>
> > Co-sign.
>
> Didn't you complain that last years' Lakers were very unlikeable
> overall? This is not going to get much better by adding Artest...

Who gives a damn about popularity contests. Do you want players that
are likeable and maintain goofy smiles (generally after making a
totally bonehead play), or players that will help you win titles?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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On Jul 11, 12:20 pm, Dynasty Reborn <Cal....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:19 am, Kai Haberzettl <kai-use....RemoveThis@khaberz.net> wrote:
>
> > mozark <swoon....RemoveThis@gmail.com> writes:
> > >> Artest is nothing like Rodman.  They're two completely different players
> > >> and men.  Check Artest's stats last season and then think about the D he
> > >> brings.  This is a no-brainer trade and the Lakers will take it if Sacto
> > >> is willing to part with Ron.  There's no two ways about it.  Thankfully,
> > >> Laker management won't be running the team on misguided emotion.  Odom
> > >> out, Artest in = championship.
>
> > > Co-sign.
>
> > Didn't you complain that last years' Lakers were very unlikeable
> > overall? This is not going to get much better by adding Artest...
>
> Who gives a damn about popularity contests.  Do you want players that
> are likeable and maintain goofy smiles (generally after making a
> totally bonehead play), or players that will help you win titles?

uh, how many titles has artest won? remember, he had a decent shot in
indy - until he decided to go into the stands and beat up the wrong
guy, getting suspended and destroying the pacers' chances of winning.

like i said, as a celtics fan, i *love* this trade. please do it,
mitch!
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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On Jul 11, 1:24 pm, Avant Grape <avantnograpec... DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> mr. gone wrote:
> > On Jul 11, 12:20 pm, Dynasty Reborn <Cal... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 11, 7:19 am, Kai Haberzettl <kai-use... DeleteThis @khaberz.net> wrote:
>
> >>> mozark <swoon... DeleteThis @gmail.com> writes:
> >>>>> Artest is nothing like Rodman.  They're two completely different players
> >>>>> and men.  Check Artest's stats last season and then think about the D he
> >>>>> brings.  This is a no-brainer trade and the Lakers will take it if Sacto
> >>>>> is willing to part with Ron.  There's no two ways about it.  Thankfully,
> >>>>> Laker management won't be running the team on misguided emotion.  Odom
> >>>>> out, Artest in = championship.
> >>>> Co-sign.
> >>> Didn't you complain that last years' Lakers were very unlikeable
> >>> overall? This is not going to get much better by adding Artest...
> >> Who gives a damn about popularity contests.  Do you want players that
> >> are likeable and maintain goofy smiles (generally after making a
> >> totally bonehead play), or players that will help you win titles?
>
> > uh, how many titles has artest won? remember, he had a decent shot in
> > indy - until he decided to go into the stands and beat up the wrong
> > guy, getting suspended and destroying the pacers' chances of winning.
>
> > like i said, as a celtics fan, i *love* this trade. please do it,
> > mitch!
>
> Artest would completely manhandle Pierce.  You don't want that trade.
>
> -JC-

since the lakers wouldn't make the finals with artest, yes, i do.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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pauls2272.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>> What catastrophe has he caused recently?
>
> He pretty much has behaved himself in Cow Town (something I didn't
> think he would do) but would the Bright Lights/Big City do him in?
>
> But it is all moot - he didn't opt out and the Kings would rather die
> than trade anything to the Lakers unless it was so lopsided they
> couldn't pass it up (like Butler for Kwame).
>


Yeah, that's the thing. They'd have to see Odom in a different light
than I see him in, and I'm not sure they are that stupid. But, if they
wanted to do the trade, there's no doubt that Mitch would pull the
trigger IMO.

-JC
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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Popcorn_Stand wrote:
> On Jul 11, 8:47 am, Avant Grape <avantnograpec....TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>> pauls2....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> What catastrophe has he caused recently?
>>> He pretty much has behaved himself in Cow Town (something I didn't
>>> think he would do) but would the Bright Lights/Big City do him in?
>>> But it is all moot - he didn't opt out and the Kings would rather die
>>> than trade anything to the Lakers unless it was so lopsided they
>>> couldn't pass it up (like Butler for Kwame).
>> Yeah, that's the thing. They'd have to see Odom in a different light
>> than I see him in, and I'm not sure they are that stupid. But, if they
>> wanted to do the trade, there's no doubt that Mitch would pull the
>> trigger IMO.
>>
>> -JC
>
> We don't need this guy in the locker room messing up the team
> chemistry. What a huge mistake this would be.


So when Sacha and Ronny are gone, who should we bring in for team
chemistry there? Fact is, Artest fits this team better than Odom, and
everything else about him as far as how he would affect morale is pure
speculation. He's very good friends with Lamar Odom and lesser so with
Kobe. If they like the guy, what does that say about them based on your
criteria?


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm
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mr. gone wrote:
> On Jul 11, 12:20 pm, Dynasty Reborn <Cal....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 7:19 am, Kai Haberzettl <kai-use....RemoveThis@khaberz.net> wrote:
>>
>>> mozark <swoon....RemoveThis@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> Artest is nothing like Rodman. They're two completely different players
>>>>> and men. Check Artest's stats last season and then think about the D he
>>>>> brings. This is a no-brainer trade and the Lakers will take it if Sacto
>>>>> is willing to part with Ron. There's no two ways about it. Thankfully,
>>>>> Laker management won't be running the team on misguided emotion. Odom
>>>>> out, Artest in = championship.
>>>> Co-sign.
>>> Didn't you complain that last years' Lakers were very unlikeable
>>> overall? This is not going to get much better by adding Artest...
>> Who gives a damn about popularity contests. Do you want players that
>> are likeable and maintain goofy smiles (generally after making a
>> totally bonehead play), or players that will help you win titles?
>
> uh, how many titles has artest won? remember, he had a decent shot in
> indy - until he decided to go into the stands and beat up the wrong
> guy, getting suspended and destroying the pacers' chances of winning.
>
> like i said, as a celtics fan, i *love* this trade. please do it,
> mitch!


Artest would completely manhandle Pierce. You don't want that trade.

-JC
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:25 pm
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Avant Grape <avantnograpecrap DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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> theBZA wrote:
>> Kai Haberzettl <kai-usenet DeleteThis @khaberz.net> wrote in
>> news:m2od546hwb.fsf@trillian.khaberz.net:
>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Artest#Controversy
>>>
>>> No matter what he brings on the court, I'm against it.
>>>
>> co-sign. Remember Rodman?
>>
>
>
>
> Artest is nothing like Rodman. They're two completely different
> players and men. Check Artest's stats

You totally missed the point.

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