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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:31 am
Post subject: Lame question
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:48 pm
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"Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamNot_ DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Gerard wrote:
> > Do coaches get pay during the lockout? Or like players, they don't?
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> Nope. Coaches are considered management, have guaranteed contracts and are
> not members of the NBPA players union.
You mean here that coaches *do* get paid, right? That seems to be what
you're saying in context, but the "nope" threw me for a second.
If that's what you mean, I'll confirm here - the NBA Players' Association
would be locked out, nobody else. Referees are employees of the league, for
example, and all team personnel will continue to be paid. You couldn't
expect the team's PR people, say, to go without compensation until a new
labor deal is struck. Unless, that is, the PR union starts lobbying for
seven-year guaranteed contracts.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Lame question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Chris Hafner wrote:
> "Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamNot_ RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3haqf4Fg5usnU1@individual.net...
>> Gerard wrote:
>>> Do coaches get pay during the lockout? Or like players, they don't?
>>
>> Nope. Coaches are considered management, have guaranteed contracts
>> and are not members of the NBPA players union.
>
> You mean here that coaches *do* get paid, right? That seems to be what
> you're saying in context, but the "nope" threw me for a second.
Right. I was answering the last part of his question.
>
> If that's what you mean, I'll confirm here - the NBA Players'
> Association would be locked out, nobody else. Referees are employees
> of the league, for example,
And have their own union.
> and all team personnel will continue to
> be paid. You couldn't expect the team's PR people, say, to go without
> compensation until a new labor deal is struck. Unless, that is, the
> PR union starts lobbying for seven-year guaranteed contracts.
There are a lot of those employees that have seasonal contracts and might be
out of work if a lockout extends into the season..
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Laurel T
"A tough day at the office is even tougher
when your OFFICE contains spectator seating."
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:38 pm
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Terraholm <terraholm_SpamNot_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Do coaches get pay during the lockout? Or like players, they don't?
>
> Nope. Coaches are considered management, have guaranteed contracts and are
> not members of the NBPA players union.
>
> Players are not getting paid on their regular season contracts between the
> end of their teams season and Oct 1st... so most are not losing anything
> during the off season either. The exception being the rookies and other
> players that play in summer league, players that would compete in the world
> championship qualifying tourney, and other minor stuff.
>
> If the lockout runs into the preseason and/or the regular season then the
> players lose 1/90 of their contract amount for each game canceled.
Thaks very much Laurel.
BTW 2 weeks before lockout Jackson gets guaranteed fat contract. Weird.
Thnks again.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:38 pm
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Gerard wrote:
> Terraholm <terraholm_SpamNot_.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Do coaches get pay during the lockout? Or like players, they don't?
>>
>> Nope. Coaches are considered management, have guaranteed contracts
>> and are not members of the NBPA players union.
>>
>> Players are not getting paid on their regular season contracts
>> between the end of their teams season and Oct 1st... so most are not
>> losing anything during the off season either. The exception being
>> the rookies and other players that play in summer league, players
>> that would compete in the world championship qualifying tourney,
>> and other minor stuff.
>>
>> If the lockout runs into the preseason and/or the regular season
>> then the players lose 1/90 of their contract amount for each game
>> canceled.
>
> Thaks very much Laurel.
> BTW 2 weeks before lockout Jackson gets guaranteed fat contract.
> Weird.
>
I doubt anyone thinks the lockout will cancel part of the season again, can
not plan on that, and the teams need the coaches in place before the draft
if possible. Having Jackson back would help attract a good free agent for
their mid-level exception and sell season tickets. I can see SAR taking a
mid-level to play there.
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Laurel T
"In my prime I could have handled
Michael Jordan. Of course,
he would be only 12 years old."
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:19 pm
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"Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamNot_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Chris Hafner wrote:
> > "Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamNot_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3haqf4Fg5usnU1@individual.net...
> >> Gerard wrote:
<snip>
> > If that's what you mean, I'll confirm here - the NBA Players'
> > Association would be locked out, nobody else. Referees are employees
> > of the league, for example,
>
> And have their own union.
.... which, if it wasn't already obvious, was drawn to our attention when
Stern slapped down the referee's union rep for questioning his Jeff Van
Gundy decision.
> > and all team personnel will continue to
> > be paid. You couldn't expect the team's PR people, say, to go without
> > compensation until a new labor deal is struck. Unless, that is, the
> > PR union starts lobbying for seven-year guaranteed contracts.
>
> There are a lot of those employees that have seasonal contracts and might
be
> out of work if a lockout extends into the season..
Unfortunately, those likely to be worst hurt by a work stoppage are those
least able to ride the wave. I'm sure concessions workers, ticket takers,
etc. are far more likely to be temporary and/or laid off than, say, Nash or
Patterson.
Cheers,
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:54 pm
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Terraholm <terraholm_SpamNot_ RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I doubt anyone thinks the lockout will cancel part of the season again, can
That's the point. It's a little bit too obvious when you look at this move. I
wonder if B.Hunter thinks the same way :-)
have a good weekend
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