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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:13 am
Post subject: Lebron from a sober perspective
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We are all caught up in the rapture of Lebron euphoria but the Michael
Jordan comparisons are misguided. Lebron is not a Michael Jordan
descendant in terms of aesthetics or style. Lebron's greatness is
undeniable but his flair for the spectacular is not part of the Dr J -
Air Jordan - Kobe Bryant lineage. In order to join that exclusive club
a superstar has to display more than the technical virtuosity of a
complete player, but must be blessed with a lean, acrobatic body
combined with the flexible, tensile strength of a steel cable. A true
basketball messiah is sublimely beautiful in motion. He elevates with
effortless grace, hovers above the defense, glides, twirls and fluidly
creates impossible gravity defying shots while suspended in mid air.
That is not Lebron's style because his muscular body type is better
suited to a speed & power game. Basketball fans will have to wait a
few more years for the next Jordan or Kobe. In the meantime, let's all
sit back and enjoy Lebron for what he is...the Magic Johnson of our
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:53 am
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"umo" <shoreke DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> We are all caught up in the rapture of Lebron euphoria but the Michael
> Jordan comparisons are misguided. Lebron is not a Michael Jordan
> descendant in terms of aesthetics or style. Lebron's greatness is
> undeniable but his flair for the spectacular is not part of the Dr J -
I have no idea why Kobe is in this discussion.
Dr. J and Jordan are the very most elite of their time.LeBron is certainly
capable. Kobe is a step up from Vince Carter or AI but isn't in the same
league as Jordan or Erving. No MVP's, no Shaqless rings, and now easy
pickings in the playoffs on "his team."
> Air Jordan - Kobe Bryant lineage. In order to join that exclusive club
> a superstar has to display more than the technical virtuosity of a
> complete player, but must be blessed with a lean, acrobatic body
> combined with the flexible, tensile strength of a steel cable. A true
> basketball messiah is sublimely beautiful in motion. He elevates with
> effortless grace, hovers above the defense, glides, twirls and fluidly
> creates impossible gravity defying shots while suspended in mid air.
> That is not Lebron's style because his muscular body type is better
> suited to a speed & power game. Basketball fans will have to wait a
> few more years for the next Jordan or Kobe. In the meantime, let's all
> sit back and enjoy Lebron for what he is...the Magic Johnson of our
> time.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:23 am
Post subject: Re: Lebron from a sober perspective [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Erving - Jordan - Kobe are the Holy Trinity of Basketball.
This not about the minutiae of statistical comparisons. This not some
geeky argument about whether Karl Malone was better than Barkley. Nash
better than Stockton or Bird better Olajuwon. This is about Beauty in
a style of play that even a non basketball fan can easily recognize.
It's a recognition of the three men who best manifested an extremely
high level of technical brilliance, proficiency & precision blended
with the sublime music of improvisational street basketball.
By the way...a very good case could be made for including Allen
Iverson in that elite group. >> Stay informed about: Lebron from a sober perspective |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:11 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:28 pm
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"umo" <shoreke.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Erving - Jordan - Kobe are the Holy Trinity of Basketball.
>
> This not about the minutiae of statistical comparisons. This not some
> geeky argument about whether Karl Malone was better than Barkley. Nash
> better than Stockton or Bird better Olajuwon. This is about Beauty in
> a style of play that even a non basketball fan can easily recognize.
> It's a recognition of the three men who best manifested an extremely
> high level of technical brilliance, proficiency & precision blended
> with the sublime music of improvisational street basketball.
>
> By the way...a very good case could be made for including Allen
> Iverson in that elite group.
Connie Hawkins, Erving, Jordan, but not Kobe. Kobe isn't even as flashy as
Vince Carter. I would love to see Kobe dunk completely over a 7'2" center
(like the French one that Carter dunked on).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:37 pm
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On 2007-06-06, Constance Reeder <constance DeleteThis @duxmail.com> wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.sport.basketball.pro.]
> On 2007-06-06, Roberto <Roberto DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
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>> "umo" <shoreke DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1181121232.613013.326100@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>> We are all caught up in the rapture of Lebron euphoria but
>>> the Michael Jordan comparisons are misguided. Lebron is not a
>>> Michael Jordan descendant in terms of aesthetics or style.
>>> Lebron's greatness is undeniable but his flair for the
>>> spectacular is not part of the Dr J -
>>
>> I have no idea why Kobe is in this discussion.
>>
>> Dr. J and Jordan are the very most elite of their time.LeBron
>> is certainly capable. Kobe is a step up from Vince Carter or
>> AI but isn't in the same league as Jordan or Erving. No
>> MVP's, no Shaqless rings, and now easy pickings in the
>> playoffs on "his team."
>
> I will point out that Jordan has no Pippenless rings either.
Does *any* so called superstar have a ring with no Pippen/Shaq?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:57 pm
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On 2007-06-06, Constance Reeder <constance.RemoveThis@duxmail.com> wrote:
> On 2007-06-06, Neil Cerutti <horpner.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-06-06, Constance Reeder <constance.RemoveThis@duxmail.com> wrote:
>>> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.sport.basketball.pro.]
>>> On 2007-06-06, Roberto <Roberto.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "umo" <shoreke.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1181121232.613013.326100@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> We are all caught up in the rapture of Lebron euphoria but
>>>>> the Michael Jordan comparisons are misguided. Lebron is not a
>>>>> Michael Jordan descendant in terms of aesthetics or style.
>>>>> Lebron's greatness is undeniable but his flair for the
>>>>> spectacular is not part of the Dr J -
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea why Kobe is in this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. J and Jordan are the very most elite of their time.LeBron
>>>> is certainly capable. Kobe is a step up from Vince Carter or
>>>> AI but isn't in the same league as Jordan or Erving. No
>>>> MVP's, no Shaqless rings, and now easy pickings in the
>>>> playoffs on "his team."
>>>
>>> I will point out that Jordan has no Pippenless rings either.
>>
>> Does *any* so called superstar have a ring with no Pippen/Shaq?
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> Tim Duncan.
He's changed his Pippen, it's true. That's somewhat rare. Only a
few superstars have won championships with completely different
teams. Let's see... only Shaq, Bill Russell, Wilt and Duncan.
Anybody else I forgot?
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Neil Cerutti
The peace-making meeting scheduled for today has been cancelled due to a
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:57 pm
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"Neil Cerutti" <horpner.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> He's changed his Pippen, it's true. That's somewhat rare. Only a
> few superstars have won championships with completely different
> teams. Let's see... only Shaq, Bill Russell, Wilt and Duncan.
> Anybody else I forgot?
Kareem.
>
> --
> Neil Cerutti
> The peace-making meeting scheduled for today has been cancelled due to a
> conflict. --Church Bulletin Blooper >> Stay informed about: Lebron from a sober perspective |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:58 pm
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Neil Cerutti <horpner RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in
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> He's changed his Pippen, it's true. That's somewhat rare. Only a
> few superstars have won championships with completely different
> teams. Let's see... only Shaq, Bill Russell, Wilt and Duncan.
> Anybody else I forgot?
John Salley
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:19 pm
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On 2007-06-06, chak daddy dollar$ <normoline DeleteThis @yahoo.com.jaundice> wrote:
> Neil Cerutti <horpner DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:slrnf6dj0t.1j8.horpner@FIAD06.norwich.edu:
>> He's changed his Pippen, it's true. That's somewhat rare. Only
>> a few superstars have won championships with completely
>> different teams. Let's see... only Shaq, Bill Russell, Wilt
>> and Duncan. Anybody else I forgot?
>
> John Salley
Holding down the bench on more than one championship team is
pretty cool, and a lot of good guys have done it. But I'm more
interested in the star players who had to do the heavy lifting
with 11 new guys and still won another championship.
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somebody bad, and I couldn't think of anybody else. Us. --Tim Legler >> Stay informed about: Lebron from a sober perspective |
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