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swyck

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:45 pm
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I'm a little disapointed that Miller is still here.

Don't get me wrong I think he's a fine PG, has been playing well, and
fits in good with this team. I just think that at his age, 32 in a
few weeks, he'd help the team better by being traded for either high
picks, expiring contracts, young prospects, or all of the above.

IMO this team is nowhere near contending, though they are playing
better then I expected at the start of the year. I'm pleasently
surprised by Young, at least he's contributing already, Williams, and
even Carney who I thought couldnt play at all. We need to shoot for
next year, or more likely, the year after that. Clear up some cap
space for free agent talent (not Ben Gordon), add some more talent via
the draft, and continue to improve the young guys.

I wonder if all the major trade activity this year made moving him
harder to do as everyone that wanted to make a move did so. He's not
elite talent, but I really thought Dallas, Cleveland, Orlando, or
Boston could use him.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:35 pm
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> I'm a little disapointed that Miller is still here.

I'm disappointed, but then I don't it was an absolute necessity
to trade him. I would have hated to see him involved in a trade
for the sake of making a trade, ala the Jeff Horanacek for an
over the hill Jeff Malone and mid-first round pick. Besides, he
can always be traded around draft day/ the off-season.

My worry is that they will foolishly re-sign him to a long
term deal. He's having what is almost a career year, certainly his
best year in quite some time. At 33...34...35 he's not at all likely
to
do that again.

-Chris

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Ian Kognitow

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:05 pm
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On Feb 25, 7:32 pm, "Kurt Straub" <jkurtstr....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> Andre is not likely to be traded. Among other reasons, there is no one else
> on the team to run the point. Sorry, Lou Williams is not even close to
> being ready.

I'll agree with Swyck though to argue that the team isn't even close
to being ready. Yes, the team has won 7 of 9. However, of the wins
they played Miami twice, the Clippers, New York, and Memphis, all of
which were at home except one of the Miami games. They beat a
mediocre Washington team and an injured Dallas team by the whopping
score of 84-76 (Dallas at the time without Harris, Dampier,
Stackhouse, and Hassell and coming off another loss to New Jersey on
the road). So with that in mind I'm not entirely impressed with the
recent success, especially since they are *still* 7 games under .500.

In any case, as I've mentioned around here before, after the Korver
trade it made absolutely *no* sense not to trade Miller. The team
admitted that trade was to clear cap space for this summer, but
without also trading Miller they will only be hovering around having
$10M free, which won't even be enough for one max offer, which is
likely what they would need to pry the kind of young star PF that they
need away from another team. And on top of all that, as the Sixers'
pathetic outside shooting has shown, they are now in desperate need of
adding someone much like Korver as well in free agency. And this is
not yet even taking into consideration extensions for Iguodala and
Williams. Now, maybe Miller could still be packaged with the extra
space as a trade exception for someone, but then Miller would only
interest contending teams already and what contender would exchange
their top PF for cap space and Miller? Only Denver comes to mind with
some kind of package involving Nene (maybe with someone like JR
Smith), who has been completely unreliable because of injury.

As for Williams, I don't think he's now going to get much better until
he gets a chance to start and really run the team. The team has Young
starting out of position and he has been doing alright. The more
pertinent question to me seems to be that there is still a long way to
go before the team can really be competitive again and without trading
Miller there don't seem to be a whole lot of possibilities for more
than lateral movement in the offseason.

--IK
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:32 pm
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Andre is not likely to be traded. Among other reasons, there is no one else
on the team to run the point. Sorry, Lou Williams is not even close to
being ready.

---- Kurt Straub

"VadaPinson" <mutsukyu DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>> I'm a little disapointed that Miller is still here.
>
> I'm disappointed, but then I don't it was an absolute necessity
> to trade him. I would have hated to see him involved in a trade
> for the sake of making a trade, ala the Jeff Horanacek for an
> over the hill Jeff Malone and mid-first round pick. Besides, he
> can always be traded around draft day/ the off-season.
>
> My worry is that they will foolishly re-sign him to a long
> term deal. He's having what is almost a career year, certainly his
> best year in quite some time. At 33...34...35 he's not at all likely
> to
> do that again.
>
> -Chris
>
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swyck

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:42 pm
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:35:47 -0800 (PST), VadaPinson
<mutsukyu.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm a little disapointed that Miller is still here.
>
> I'm disappointed, but then I don't it was an absolute necessity
>to trade him. I would have hated to see him involved in a trade
>for the sake of making a trade, ala the Jeff Horanacek for an
>over the hill Jeff Malone and mid-first round pick. Besides, he
>can always be traded around draft day/ the off-season.
>
> My worry is that they will foolishly re-sign him to a long
>term deal. He's having what is almost a career year, certainly his
>best year in quite some time. At 33...34...35 he's not at all likely
>to
>do that again.
>
> -Chris
Miller's value is at a peak right now, at least as far as I see it. I
agree with all the posts that we shouldn't make a trade just to do so,
but we should do one to help the team somehow. I guess we can wait
for the off season, but anything can happen between now and then. I
also think teams get more desperate at the trade deadline then in the
off season. Some of the moves that were made this year looked pretty
desperate to me.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:22 pm
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"swyck" <adze DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Miller's value is at a peak right now, at least as far as I see it.


My sister thinks he is arrogant


mk5000

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credit. There is a division of labor who does what. "--Ptica Trkacica
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:26 pm
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"Kurt Straub" <jkurtstraub.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Andre is not likely to be traded. Among other reasons, there is no one
> else on the team to run the point. Sorry, Lou Williams is not even close
> to being ready.
>
> ---- Kurt Straub
>



off topic but cool

I wonder if he wears chapstick when he sits on the beach

mk5000

Less than a week after being traded, former Piston Primoz Brezec
speaks out
FREE PRESS STAFF AND NEWS SERVICES . February 25, 200

Recently traded center Primoz Brezec spoke out after the Pistons
swapped him for point guard Juan Dixon right before the trade deadline.

Brezec talked with nationalpost.com about his role with the
Pistons, how he'd like that to change in Toronto and his meeting with
Toronto's GM Bryan Colangelo after his trade. Here are some of the
highlights:
"The first thing I said to Bryan was, 'Listen Bryan, man, I'm
not coming there to sit on the bench, I can tell you right now. I would
rather go home to Slovenia and sit my ass on a beach or at home and be with
my family. I'm not sitting on the bench no more, man. I can't do that no
more.'

"He said, 'Listen, you're going to get a shot.' I said, 'That's
all I need. A shot. I'll show you what I can do. If I don't do anything,
I'll sub myself out of the game. It's that easy.' "

"I was just a spectator [in Detroit]. I've been a starter in
this league. I know I can play, and I'm going to help this team win some
games."
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