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calcio1518

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:59 am
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I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... and they
NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.

What gives?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:25 pm
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On Mar 17, 11:59 am, calcio1....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... and they
> NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
> What gives?

Maybe they see something in those teams they admire?
Or maybe they are just bar-rag morons looking to "fit in?"

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:03 pm
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:59:52 -0700, calcio1518 wrote:

> I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... and they
> NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
> What gives?

Could still be a regional affiliation, or maybe they've seen and like the
style of the program . . . .

Then there's the Bandwagon Effect-- winners attract fans.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:05 pm
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On 17 Mar 2007 09:59:52 -0700, calcio1518.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:

>I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... and they
>NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
>What gives?

Probably the same as pro teams. Regional loyalty is probably the main
reason. Local media will give a lot of coverage to teams close by so people
reading sports news will learn more about them.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:08 pm
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I grew up in Tulsa. Everyone there is a Sooner fan unless you went to
Oklahoma State, University of Tulsa or are a Sooner hater. You always
find haters around a hugely popular team. I found the same thing with
the Cowboys after moving to Dallas.
I wonder if they really found something they hate about the team or if
it's just their niche in life to be against what everybody else is
for.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:01 pm
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>I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... and they
> NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
> What gives?

Often because they like basketball but there's no local NBA team to root
for, so they become college fans. I mean, if regional affilliation can
apply to pro sports teams, why not college?

Arnold Kim
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:24 pm
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On Mar 17, 12:59�pm, calcio1....RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc...  and they
> NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
> What gives?

I grew up in the Boston area and there is no school I hate more than
Boston College. Even though I hate college football and college
basketball (never could latch on to a team that I had no affiliation
with), I'm always happy when Boston College looses.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:03 pm
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EGK wrote:

> On 17 Mar 2007 09:59:52 -0700, calcio1518.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... and they
> > NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
> >
> > What gives?
>
> Probably the same as pro teams. Regional loyalty is probably the main
> reason. Local media will give a lot of coverage to teams close by so
> people reading sports news will learn more about them.

A lot of people in St. Louis are fans of Missouri, more so than in-town
St. Louis U. That's partially because SLU doesn't have football, so as
a one major sport school it doesn't have the broad appeal. Mizzou is
the only in-state school playing football in a major conference.
Missouri State plays in something called the Gateway Conference, which
seems to be I-AA.

As you say, Mizzou gets a lot of ink in the local papers, to the point
where it's considered one of "our" teams in the respective sports.




Brian

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:10 am
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Jim Reid wrote:

> I grew up in Tulsa. Everyone there is a Sooner fan unless you went to
> Oklahoma State, University of Tulsa or are a Sooner hater.

My dad did his graduate work at OSU back in the 60's. Seemed like you
didn't get far away from Stillwater before it became Sooner territory.



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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:13 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:20 am
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On Mar 17, 10:13 pm, "It's the Principle!"
<brandy....DeleteThis@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
> Default User <defaultuse....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>
> > Jim Reid wrote:
>
> >> I grew up in Tulsa. Everyone there is a Sooner fan unless you
> >> went to Oklahoma State, University of Tulsa or are a Sooner
> >> hater.
>
> > My dad did his graduate work at OSU back in the 60's. Seemed like
> > you didn't get far away from Stillwater before it became Sooner
> > territory.
>
> > Brian
>
> My Texan boss is a MAJOR Longhorns fan. He went to Baylor.
>
> --
>



I grew up in New York State, outside New York City, and went to high
school in the 1970s. As things were then, and in large part still
are, we had no local Division I football programs to root for. There
was some interest in Penn State, as they sometimes recruited area
players, and we sort of thought of Syracuse as a home state favorite,
but there were so few televised games in those days that you might see
them on TV once a year, plus maybe a bowl appearance. But the State
University of New York doesn't have a pair of supercampuses attached
to football programs the way many of the states to the south and west
do, and the glory days of Fordham, Cornell or Columbia were long gone,
so actually going to college games wasn't a popular outing, the way it
would be in, say, Oklahoma. We had pro teams for that, anyway.

I've lived out in the Midwest for many years. I find that plenty of
people root for the State University's teams even if they never went
to college. Local kids that they or their children went to school with
are often on the roster. I guess this is a point of local patriotism
that I don't share.

As far as basketball goes, the NYC area was a hotbed. The old ECAC
holiday tourney and the NIT were big deals, and the ECAC had a
syndicated TV deal, so that local independent TV stations showed
several games each weekend. (I think this was with Eddie Einhorn's old
TVS outfit.) I used to root for Villanova, where my Dad played, and
when they weren't playing I would usually back a team if I knew it was
a Catholic instiutution. We saw a lot of St. Bonaventure, Fordham,
Iona and St. John's, besides Notre Dame, DePaul and similar schools
from out of our region. Think of this as an extension of what the New
York tabloids used to call the "subway alumni" - fans who never went
to Notre Dame, but supported it because they were Irish and/or
Catholic. I first noticed Marquette from watching them play hoops on
TV. My Dad pointed out Al Maguire and his brother Frank's history
with the Knicks. I wound up applying at MU partly because basketball
put them on my radar, and because the financial aid package beat the
hell out of the ones from Georgetown and ND.

Over the years I have refined my rooting interest. If a game doesn't
involve my alma mater, I really don't care who wins, except that I
like to see the private schools beat the state institutions, though
nowadays that's based on my politics, not on any religious sentiment.
[I happen to think the Constitutional Convention made a mistake when
it didn't guarantee separation of education and state, along with
press and church.] I was SO hoping Xavier could have closed out
whichever state university from Ohio they played on Saturday. I root
for Northwestern to win the Big T1e1n, for Mises' sake! I realize
that the average sports fan might find this perverse, but to me it
seems eminently logical.

Once televised sports exploded with the introduction of satellite
feeds and cable hookups, "national games" made for TV, on the order of
the 1968 UCLA v Houston showdown at the Astrodome proliferated. The
NCAA tourney became a big TV hit. The Big East could even be seen as a
"made for TV" conference, though the changes in the tournament that
forced almost all the major independents into conferences entered into
that decision. Once all those games became available almost anywhere,
people without a local favorite to latch onto could take their pick
based on any criteria - admiration for a particular coach or player,
style of play, uniform colors, cutest cheerleaders, or the old
standby, pure frontrunning. Even anti-frontrunning is a plausible
reason. A lot of folks hate Duke, but many couldn't stand UCLA back
when the tourney only had 16 teams, and the West regional they had to
negotiate was an annual lead pipe cinch.

As championship time approaches, people who only have connections to
mediocre or poor programs that don't make the postseason will
naturally gravitate to some clubs over others when they watch the
tourney. It'd be boring to watch so many games without developing
some rooting interest. As in my case, that can lead to a real
connection to a school. Admissions offices report spikes in
applications when a school's team has a great NCAA run, or plays in a
prominent bowl game. I guess that can have a similar effect on those
who aren't in the pool of prospective freshmen.

Kevin
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:24 am
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On Mar 17, 5:24 pm, "SoxFan26" <j....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 12:59?pm, calcio1....RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... ?and they
> > NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
> > What gives?
>
> I grew up in the Boston area and there is no school I hate more than
> Boston College. Even though I hate college football and college
> basketball (never could latch on to a team that I had no affiliation
> with), I'm always happy when Boston College looses.

Care to share why? From your post, I wouldn't peg you for a fan of BU
or UMASS. Are the students especially annoying? Did a Jesuit scare
you as a child? :)

Kevin
(Many of the nuns who staffed my H.S. were from Mass, and some of them
were B.C. grads. They named our sports teams "The Blue Eagles." I
never applied there, though.)
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:49 am
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On Mar 17, 12:59 pm, calcio1....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... and they
> NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
> What gives?

the trend I've always noticed with this is that these type of people
typically only support the team when they're doing well. I believe
that I enjoy the good times much more by following a team in the bad
times. It wouldn't be very satisfying for me to jump around to only
the best teams.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:10 am
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On Mar 18, 5:20?am, "Kevrob" <kev....DeleteThis@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Once all those games became available almost anywhere,
> people without a local favorite to latch onto could take their pick
> based on any criteria - admiration for a particular coach or player,
> style of play, uniform colors, cutest cheerleaders, or the old
> standby, pure frontrunning.

I think this is why you find so many Atlanta Braves fans. Anywhere
they don't have a local MLB team but they do have TBS on their cable,
you'll find a lot of Braves fans.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:13 am
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On Mar 18, 6:24�am, "Kevrob" <kev....TakeThisOut@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 5:24 pm, "SoxFan26" <j....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 17, 12:59?pm, calcio1....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > I see people rooting for UNLV or Duke, UConn, etc.. etc... ?and they
> > > NEVER went to the school or had relatives go there.
>
> > > What gives?
>
> > I grew up in the Boston area and there is no school I hate more than
> > Boston College.  Even though I hate college football and college
> > basketball (never could latch on to a team that I had no affiliation
> > with), I'm always happy when Boston College looses.
>
> Care to share why?  From your post, I wouldn't peg you for a fan of BU
> or UMASS.  Are the students especially annoying?  Did a Jesuit scare
> you as a child? :)
>
> Kevin
> (Many of the nuns who staffed my H.S. were from Mass, and some of them
> were B.C. grads.  They named our sports teams "The Blue Eagles."  I
> never applied there, though.)

I did grow up a BU hockey fan (actually college hockey is the only
college sport I follow). But the fans of BC are actually annoying.
The one example that I like to use to demonstrate how they are was
when a goalie of an opposing team was knocked unconscious and almost
died, and the BC fans were laughing and throwing things at the fans of
the opposing school. All while the goalie is being taken away on a
stretcher.
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