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> > >
> > > I'm not so sure. The teams I've heard of him potentially landing are
> > Dallas
> > > and San Antonio. He won't start over Duncan or Antoine Walker at PF.
> >
> >
> > Walker> 'Sheed? Give me a break. I doubt walker will be there anyway.
>
> Hey, Walker's got a better FG% in Dallas than he ever had in Boston. He's
> showing improvement. Walker's FG% is better than Wallace this year.

The year is young, look at the career numbers. And he sure can not guards
the 4s like 'Sheed.


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> Walker wouldn't go to the bench and since he won't go
> to SF,

Does he not jack up more 3s than most anyone? Must be a SF...=)
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the Mavs seem to have a glut of power forwards. Nowitzki seems to be
playing center, Walker at power, I'm surprised they don't try to play
Jamison at SF, then Finley at SG and of course Nash at PG. What would
they do with Wallace?
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> the Mavs seem to have a glut of power forwards. Nowitzki seems to be
> playing center, Walker at power, I'm surprised they don't try to play
> Jamison at SF, then Finley at SG and of course Nash at PG. What would
> they do with Wallace?
>

If they get Wallace they would not still have all of the rest.


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if he jacks up more 3's than anyone he must be a shooting guard or point
guard. is that what Wallace is now, a shooting guard? a 6'11" shooting
guard?
MACK DADDY!
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> > >
> > > You are wrong. That is backwards. 'Sheed is a PF that can play SF or
> > center.
> > > He matches up defensively against PFs best. Ask the coaches, ask
> him....he
> > > is giving it another try, but previously he asked to come off the
bench
> > > instead of start at SF.
> >
> > I swear to that holy god in the sky that you are the most stubborn
person
> > I've ever spoke to.
>
> Thanks!
>
> You beat a dead horse just to say, I'm right, you're
> > wrong, I told you so.
> >
> > Here's the bottom line. Sheed is a swingman
>
> Swing is normally used for SG/SF...

swing is defined as a player who is capable of playing multiple positions be
it SF/SG, or PF/SF, or C/PF.


> >who is playing SF now.
> > Everyone agree's he can play C/PF/SF. speaking from terms of his true
> > position, sure, you can call him a PF, but many will agree that he's
just
> as
> > pure of a SF.
>
> No. He can not guard them.

oh, so now he's an incompetent SF and that's why he's a PF?



> he's adapting to the role great. Maybe he'll never play PF
> > again. At what point do you say he's a SF who can play PF?
>
> When he is as quick as Shawn Marion. =)


so there's a book of prerequisites based on other players' performance as a
measuring stick now? How about a firm decision to play a given position?
How about Wallace choosing to be a SF or Maurice feeling he better benefits
the team as a SF, doesn't that make him a SF in the same sense that Iverson
is a SG b/c he best serves the team as one?


> >I guess
> > longevity will answer that. I call him a SF now. That's what he's
> playing,
> > that's what he is.
>
> Fine he is a center. That is what he played tonight.


good move eh .... and woods started at SF. good chemistry. But no Dale
Davis, so he's excused for a day.

hey, we won =) lol. our first road win against the Nets. Shocker.
Perfect huh, just what the blazer fans need... a big win like this so we're
primed for a bigger let down against a lesser team later. I like Stepania.
You see him run the fast break and throw it down? heh heh. get him some
more minutes.


> > I suppose you think Allen Iverson's a PG? It's not about what you can
do,
> > it's what about you DO do.
>
> Ivy is a SG in a PGs body. Same with Damon. Who do they guard? Damon plays
> off the ball this season but guards the 1s, McInnis is listed as starting
at
> the 2 but runs the offense much of the time and brings the ball up.

Well, Iverson is a SG b/c that's what he does offensively. McInnis is a 2
by default. DA will be back and McInnis won't be out of position. whoever
(Damon or McInnis) is passed the ball inbounds is capable of running the
point.


> > I suppose you think LeBron James is a SF. I
> > suppose you think Tim Duncan's a C. It's all academic.
> >
>
> Yes. They have a best position. Wallace's is PF for the matchups.


LeBron is 6-8 and his best position is PG b/c he handles the ball better
than anyone on their team. Duncan should be a center in this league, but he
likes PF, wants to be PF, and that's what he plays. Wallace can play PF,
but he doesn't. He made the choice to play SF just as Duncan made the
choice to play PF, just as Iverson and LeBron best serve their teams at SG
and PG respectively, so...... why is there an exception for Wallace? all
those guys are listed in specific positions based on what position they
play, but Wallace isn't a SF even though he plays it?


> > > > i dunno what the point of all this is. beating an irrelevant, dead
> > horse.
> > >
> > > This IS usenet....
> >
> > thanks for the reminder mom =)
>
> you owe bozak a nickel....=)

tell me where to cut the check. who's bozak?
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> > > >
> > > > You are wrong. That is backwards. 'Sheed is a PF that can play SF or
> > > center.
> > > > He matches up defensively against PFs best. Ask the coaches, ask
> > him....he
> > > > is giving it another try, but previously he asked to come off the
> bench
> > > > instead of start at SF.
> > >
> > > I swear to that holy god in the sky that you are the most stubborn
> person
> > > I've ever spoke to.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > You beat a dead horse just to say, I'm right, you're
> > > wrong, I told you so.
> > >
> > > Here's the bottom line. Sheed is a swingman
> >
> > Swing is normally used for SG/SF...
>
> swing is defined as a player who is capable of playing multiple positions
be
> it SF/SG, or PF/SF, or C/PF.
>
>
> > >who is playing SF now.
> > > Everyone agree's he can play C/PF/SF. speaking from terms of his true
> > > position, sure, you can call him a PF, but many will agree that he's
> just
> > as
> > > pure of a SF.
> >
> > No. He can not guard them.
>
> oh, so now he's an incompetent SF and that's why he's a PF?
>
>
>
> > he's adapting to the role great. Maybe he'll never play PF
> > > again. At what point do you say he's a SF who can play PF?
> >
> > When he is as quick as Shawn Marion. =)
>
>
> so there's a book of prerequisites based on other players' performance as
a
> measuring stick now?

So you think he is equally effective guarding SFs as he is PFs? Think that
is why Cheeks switches him to guard Duncan?

> How about a firm decision to play a given position?
> How about Wallace choosing to be a SF or Maurice feeling he better
benefits
> the team as a SF, doesn't that make him a SF in the same sense that
Iverson
> is a SG b/c he best serves the team as one?

He is playing SF out of nesessity not choice. Have to have your best 2
players starting. Find me a quote saying Cheeks thinks it is his best
position. Because I have heard him express concerns about the matchups.

> >
> > Fine he is a center. That is what he played tonight.
>
>
> good move eh .... and woods started at SF. good chemistry. But no Dale
> Davis, so he's excused for a day.
>
> hey, we won =) lol. our first road win against the Nets. Shocker.

So was your prediction embarrasing? =)


> Perfect huh, just what the blazer fans need... a big win like this so
we're
> primed for a bigger let down against a lesser team later. I like
Stepania.
> You see him run the fast break and throw it down? heh heh. get him some
> more minutes.

He is a stiff, but he plays hard.


> > > I suppose you think Allen Iverson's a PG? It's not about what you can
> do,
> > > it's what about you DO do.
> >
> > Ivy is a SG in a PGs body. Same with Damon. Who do they guard? Damon
plays
> > off the ball this season but guards the 1s, McInnis is listed as
starting
> at
> > the 2 but runs the offense much of the time and brings the ball up.
>
> Well, Iverson is a SG b/c that's what he does offensively. McInnis is a 2
> by default. DA will be back and McInnis won't be out of position.
whoever
> (Damon or McInnis) is passed the ball inbounds is capable of running the
> point.

Damon plays better off the ball. That is what Cheeks is doing with him.

>
>
> > > I suppose you think LeBron James is a SF. I
> > > suppose you think Tim Duncan's a C. It's all academic.
> > >
> >
> > Yes. They have a best position. Wallace's is PF for the matchups.
>
>
> LeBron is 6-8 and his best position is PG b/c he handles the ball better
> than anyone on their team.

Point forward, Pippen type at Chicago.


Duncan should be a center in this league, but he
> likes PF, wants to be PF, and that's what he plays.

He matches up better with the PFs than most of the centers. He may be one
that would be equally good at either position, but obviously he thinks PF is
his best position.

> Wallace can play PF,
> but he doesn't. He made the choice to play SF

Cheeks made the decission. I am sure 'Sheed would have been fine with
Randolph off the bench behind him again. It is a contract year, he can not
afford to vollunteer to bench himself again as he did for grant.

>just as Duncan made the
> choice to play PF, just as Iverson and LeBron best serve their teams at SG
> and PG respectively, so...... why is there an exception for Wallace? all
> those guys are listed in specific positions based on what position they
> play, but Wallace isn't a SF even though he plays it?

So if philly got a great SG to go with Ivy and they needed to move him to
the point would he then be a PG or a SG playing out of his best position?

>
>
> > > > > i dunno what the point of all this is. beating an irrelevant,
dead
> > > horse.
> > > >
> > > > This IS usenet....
> > >
> > > thanks for the reminder mom =)
> >
> > you owe bozak a nickel....=)
>
> tell me where to cut the check. who's bozak?
>

bozak is a laker fan. I hang out on asbnll too. he calls me mom. It is a
long story/joke.


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> > > > > i dunno what the point of all this is. beating an irrelevant,
dead
> > > horse.
> > > >
> > > > This IS usenet....
> > >
> > > thanks for the reminder mom =)
> >
> > you owe bozak a nickel....=)
>
> tell me where to cut the check. who's bozak?
>
>
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are Jason Collins and Jaron Collins brothers?
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> > > > > > i dunno what the point of all this is. beating an irrelevant,
> dead
> > > > horse.
> > > > >
> > > > > This IS usenet....
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the reminder mom =)
> > >
> > > you owe bozak a nickel....=)
> >
> > tell me where to cut the check. who's bozak?

now you owe all of usenet a dollar...
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> are Jason Collins and Jaron Collins brothers?
>

Identical twin bothers. Sort of like Horace and Harvey Grant...which shows
cloning does not work....
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> > > > > > > i dunno what the point of all this is. beating an irrelevant,
> > dead
> > > > > horse.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This IS usenet....
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for the reminder mom =)
> > > >
> > > > you owe bozak a nickel....=)
> > >
> > > tell me where to cut the check. who's bozak?
>
> now you owe all of usenet a dollar...
>

For stealing your 'mom' or for not knowing who you? =)


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> > > > > > > > i dunno what the point of all this is. beating an irrelevant,
> > > dead
> > > > > > horse.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This IS usenet....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks for the reminder mom =)
> > > > >
> > > > > you owe bozak a nickel....=)
> > > >
> > > > tell me where to cut the check. who's bozak?
> >
> > now you owe all of usenet a dollar...
> >
>
> For stealing your 'mom' or for not knowing who you? =)

both...
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