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> >
> > I agree about his consistency being a much needed improvement. But when
he
> > gives it back at the other end just as consistently it does not
translate
> > into wins yet. Perhaps you were right about him being good enough to
build
> a
> > team around. I think despite his stats he will need another top player,
at
> > both ends, to make it work.
>
> Let's mark our calendars. We seem to agree :)

omg....=)

>
> He will probably not be able to carry a team all by himself, but the
> mailman, I am guessing here, would not have been able to do it either
> without Stockton.

Both of them and Sloan have that elusive drive, the 'will to train'... the
desire to learn and improve.
I am starting to think Zqach may have that too and hope he continues to
train all summer. When they drafted him I was worried he might be a
Shaq/oliver miller type and just keep packing on pounds.

>
> I would still say that they are probably right to try and keep him and add
> pieces around him.
>

They have him for 2 seasons at least. If he continues to improve it may take
a max contract to sign him or match an offer as a RFA. There will be a new
CBA in effect that summer so it is hard to predict.


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> >
> > I agree about his consistency being a much needed improvement. But when
he
> > gives it back at the other end just as consistently it does not
translate
> > into wins yet. Perhaps you were right about him being good enough to
build
> a
> > team around. I think despite his stats he will need another top player,
at
> > both ends, to make it work.
>
> I think Derek Anderson is extremely talented. I loved him in college.
He's
> much more athletic than Bonzi and I think he can complement Sheed and Zach
> very well when he's healthy.


When he is healthy....and how long does that last? Besides I do not like his
game much, he tends to be another streaky shooter with a bad FGP. We have
plenty of those now.

> And McInnis along with Woods will produce well
> off the bench.

I like Woods. Hope he lives up to Allen's fantacy about him on draft
night...=)

>McInnis could even be a good 6th man of the year candidate
> at some point... or Woods.

Jamison...


>
> I'd like to see us develop Stepania more. See what he's capable of doing
on
> a consistent basis in the post.
We need a good sized man in the middle with
> energy and the ability to get up and down the court, and play well at both
> ends of the court. That would be a huge plus for Portland. STep may not
be
> the answer,

He is a stiff. I would like to see 'Sheed at center more and give
Woods/patterson more minutes and keep DD healthy..

>but I'm just saying, DA may be the help you're talking about and
> a good, productive Center (bigger, better, and younger than Dale) would be
a
> good addition and give us even more hope for the future.

I doubt either of those are any answer. But we are stuck with DA awhile.


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I agree they should play Wallace more at center, and either Patterson or
woods more at small forward. They need to play Dale Davis less, and
just keep him healthy for crunch time / big games / against bigger
teams!
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> > > > I'm not so sure. The teams I've heard of him potentially landing
are
> > > Dallas
> > > > and San Antonio. He won't start over Duncan or Antoine Walker at
PF.
> > >
> > >
> > > Walker> 'Sheed? Give me a break. I doubt walker will be there anyway.
> >
> > Hey, Walker's got a better FG% in Dallas than he ever had in Boston.
He's
> > showing improvement. Walker's FG% is better than Wallace this year.
>
> The year is young, look at the career numbers. And he sure can not guards
> the 4s like 'Sheed.

I did say I don't consider him a better player than Sheed, but I don't
believe Walker would go to SF or the bench in favor of Rasheed if he went to
Dallas. I think the Mavs would be best served with Wallace at SF and toine
at PF.
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> > Walker wouldn't go to the bench and since he won't go
> > to SF,
>
> Does he not jack up more 3s than most anyone? Must be a SF...=)

actually, that's not a joke. he can play SF, but he gets nearly 10 ppg and
does spend a lot of time around the paint banging with others at both ends
of the court. mostly defensive end though. So maybe his position is
defined more from a defensive standpoint as opposed to offensively.
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> So maybe his position is
> defined more from a defensive standpoint as opposed to offensively.

I think he's got it....=)
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but I still stand by my opinion or fact that Rasheed Wallace is a power
forward, who happens to be able to play all 3 frontcourt position.
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> if he jacks up more 3's than anyone he must be a shooting guard or point
> guard. is that what Wallace is now, a shooting guard? a 6'11" shooting
> guard?
> MACK DADDY!

we can point out individual examples till we die. knowing some NBA history
would help.

this all started because you consider Wallace a PF. Everyone agrees he
swings. Do you not see him as a SF at all?
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> this all started because you consider Wallace a PF. Everyone agrees he
> swings.

everyone agrees? He is not a swingman, I have yet to see him at guard...=)

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at all, yes, but not totally a small forward. He is a big swingman
small power center, but his best position is power forward.
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the way things are going it wont surprise me if the Blazers put Woods at
SF and move Sheed to Shooting guard.
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> > > > >
> > > > > You are wrong. That is backwards. 'Sheed is a PF that can play SF
or
> > > > center.
> > > > > He matches up defensively against PFs best. Ask the coaches, ask
> > > him....he
> > > > > is giving it another try, but previously he asked to come off the
> > bench
> > > > > instead of start at SF.
> > > >
> > > > I swear to that holy god in the sky that you are the most stubborn
> > person
> > > > I've ever spoke to.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > You beat a dead horse just to say, I'm right, you're
> > > > wrong, I told you so.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the bottom line. Sheed is a swingman
> > >
> > > Swing is normally used for SG/SF...
> >
> > swing is defined as a player who is capable of playing multiple
positions
> be
> > it SF/SG, or PF/SF, or C/PF.
> >
> >
> > > >who is playing SF now.
> > > > Everyone agree's he can play C/PF/SF. speaking from terms of his
true
> > > > position, sure, you can call him a PF, but many will agree that he's
> > just
> > > as
> > > > pure of a SF.
> > >
> > > No. He can not guard them.
> >
> > oh, so now he's an incompetent SF and that's why he's a PF?
> >
> >
> >
> > > he's adapting to the role great. Maybe he'll never play PF
> > > > again. At what point do you say he's a SF who can play PF?
> > >
> > > When he is as quick as Shawn Marion. =)
> >
> >
> > so there's a book of prerequisites based on other players' performance
as
> a
> > measuring stick now?
>
> So you think he is equally effective guarding SFs as he is PFs? Think that
> is why Cheeks switches him to guard Duncan?
>
> > How about a firm decision to play a given position?
> > How about Wallace choosing to be a SF or Maurice feeling he better
> benefits
> > the team as a SF, doesn't that make him a SF in the same sense that
> Iverson
> > is a SG b/c he best serves the team as one?
>
> He is playing SF out of nesessity not choice. Have to have your best 2
> players starting. Find me a quote saying Cheeks thinks it is his best
> position. Because I have heard him express concerns about the matchups.

when grant was here, he said he'd help the team by playing SF... a concerted
choice. Whether is choice, or necessity, it doesn't change the fact that's
what he's doing and that's his position.



> > Perfect huh, just what the blazer fans need... a big win like this so
> we're
> > primed for a bigger let down against a lesser team later. I like
> Stepania.
> > You see him run the fast break and throw it down? heh heh. get him
some
> > more minutes.
>
> He is a stiff, but he plays hard.

i think he plays with a stiffy.



> > > > I suppose you think Allen Iverson's a PG? It's not about what you
can
> > do,
> > > > it's what about you DO do.
> > >
> > > Ivy is a SG in a PGs body. Same with Damon. Who do they guard? Damon
> plays
> > > off the ball this season but guards the 1s, McInnis is listed as
> starting
> > at
> > > the 2 but runs the offense much of the time and brings the ball up.
> >
> > Well, Iverson is a SG b/c that's what he does offensively. McInnis is a
2
> > by default. DA will be back and McInnis won't be out of position.
> whoever
> > (Damon or McInnis) is passed the ball inbounds is capable of running the
> > point.
>
> Damon plays better off the ball. That is what Cheeks is doing with him.
>
> >
> >
> > > > I suppose you think LeBron James is a SF. I
> > > > suppose you think Tim Duncan's a C. It's all academic.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes. They have a best position. Wallace's is PF for the matchups.
> >
> >
> > LeBron is 6-8 and his best position is PG b/c he handles the ball better
> > than anyone on their team.
>
> Point forward, Pippen type at Chicago.

lebron's listed as a G.


> Duncan should be a center in this league, but he
> > likes PF, wants to be PF, and that's what he plays.
>
> He matches up better with the PFs than most of the centers. He may be one
> that would be equally good at either position, but obviously he thinks PF
is
> his best position.

he likes it better.

> >just as Duncan made the
> > choice to play PF, just as Iverson and LeBron best serve their teams at
SG
> > and PG respectively, so...... why is there an exception for Wallace?
all
> > those guys are listed in specific positions based on what position they
> > play, but Wallace isn't a SF even though he plays it?
>
> So if philly got a great SG to go with Ivy and they needed to move him to
> the point would he then be a PG or a SG playing out of his best position?


dead horse


> > > > > > i dunno what the point of all this is. beating an irrelevant,
> dead
> > > > horse.
> > > > >
> > > > > This IS usenet....
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the reminder mom =)
> > >
> > > you owe bozak a nickel....=)
> >
> > tell me where to cut the check. who's bozak?
> >
>
> bozak is a laker fan. I hang out on asbnll too. he calls me mom. It is a
> long story/joke.

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> > He is playing SF out of nesessity not choice. Have to have your best 2
> > players starting. Find me a quote saying Cheeks thinks it is his best
> > position. Because I have heard him express concerns about the matchups.
>
> when grant was here, he said he'd help the team by playing SF... a
concerted
> choice.

Not. Dunleavy's choice. 'Sheed did not like it so much that he asked to come
off the bench behind Grant over starting at SF.

> Whether is choice, or necessity, it doesn't change the fact that's
> what he's doing and that's his position.

Sure this year he is a SF, but his best position, his best match-ups are at
PF. Cheeks has said as much, 'Sheed in the past asked 'not' to start at SF.
That he is doing so this year for the good of Zach's game is sacraficing his
own game for the good of the team. He is putting up lower stats because of
it.


> > So if philly got a great SG to go with Ivy and they needed to move him
to
> > the point would he then be a PG or a SG playing out of his best
position?
>
>
> dead horse

Do not like the answer so you skip it....=)



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