'Sheed to the hawks

Who will guard Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki?
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the Blazers are on the way to being an offense only team like Dallas,
only not as good!
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"Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamGoAway.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> >
> > Don't you think of that as a problem more than an asset?
> >
>
> No. It just made him tougher to guard. It did not affect his
effectiveness.
> =)

lol. yea right, like he's going to burn someone off the dribble if they
guard him at the 3 point line.
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"toad" <papatoad DeleteThis @mrstoad.com> wrote in message
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> "Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamGoAway DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >
> > > Don't you think of that as a problem more than an asset?
> > >
> >
> > No. It just made him tougher to guard. It did not affect his
> effectiveness.
> > =)
>
> lol. yea right, like he's going to burn someone off the dribble if they
> guard him at the 3 point line.

You think players like Duncan and Malone liked coming out there to guard
him?
Could they leave him and beg him to shoot them when he made a third of them?


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"Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamGoAway RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
>
> > In my opinion, Sheed never shoulda been shooting 3s anyways. Initially
> > people complained about him shooting 3s and it was a joke when he made
> 'em.
>
> Excuse me? He took about 80 3s as a rookie.
> In the 2000 playoffs (after his worse year on 3pt% )he looked to shoot
> them and made a high % of them.Then the next season he really mad it part
of
> his game. Dunlevy when asked about that said if he was 'Sheed's teammate
> would look at him as 'an assist waiting to happen' no matter what the
range.

lol. great, grand, wonderful. so you're sorry to see sheed go b/c he was
such a premiere 3 point threat in the nba.



> >Then he got better at it. someone
> > else will emerge.
>
> I love your "emerging" shooters....

i love hearing you cry about losing wallace and how great a deep shooter he
was. the inevitable has happened and the future is starting to take shape.
no more stewing about the past. you seem to think we'll be worse without
sheed while I disagree. I see him as a perennial underachiever. with no
talent around him in atlanta, he'll probably explode statistically for the
remainder of the year. then you'll still be saying, look what we lost.

are the new guys going to be in the lineup tonight?
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"toad" <papatoad.DeleteThis@mrstoad.com> wrote in message
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> "Terraholm" <terraholm_SpamGoAway.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> >
> > > In my opinion, Sheed never shoulda been shooting 3s anyways.
Initially
> > > people complained about him shooting 3s and it was a joke when he made
> > 'em.
> >
> > Excuse me? He took about 80 3s as a rookie.
> > In the 2000 playoffs (after his worse year on 3pt% )he looked to shoot
> > them and made a high % of them.Then the next season he really mad it
part
> of
> > his game. Dunlevy when asked about that said if he was 'Sheed's
teammate
> > would look at him as 'an assist waiting to happen' no matter what the
> range.
>
> lol. great, grand, wonderful. so you're sorry to see sheed go b/c he was
> such a premiere 3 point threat in the nba.

Just hate it when I point out your non-fact facts huh? =)


>
> are the new guys going to be in the lineup tonight?

Use your foresight....
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In article <102ikq2em04j27c DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
Terraholm <terraholm_SpamGoAway DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>And you all still whined about it when he was playing SF....I suppose Dirk
>and KG should not be shooting 3s because they are 7 footers?


Damn straight, especially Garnett.


Dimitri
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"PDX Blazers" <pdx_blazers.RemoveThis@sacbeemail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Could you imagine being a Hawk fan?
>
> Do they have any left?

lol. i know of a few


> > Beat Dallas and lose 2 ex all-star starters in the same night.
> > You would have to wonder what the hell was up with that.
>
> This would be a good time to just disband that team.

no no no. aldridge states that they're going to clear nearly 50 mill in cap
room after this year. sheed is like 16 i believe. i think person is around
7, terrell brandon's salary will be gone... that's a lot. there's more.
they could be a big free agent player. kobe sweepstakes maybe.


> > Good timing at the break. Hawks are off already so they likely wanted
> > the trade right away. I wouldn't be surprised if SAR or Rat sit out vs
> > the Nuggets too.
>
> Good timing for the Hawks maybe, but too bad the Blazers couldn't have
> at least waited a few more days. They really need to win both of their
> two home games this week. The new guys won't play against Utah tonight,
> but they should be available for the Denver game.

watch sheed for atlanta. with basically only him and terry, he's going to
just explode statistically. stephen jackson may pick it up as well. going
to be interesting to see what the hawks do. I guess Nazr will be the
center.
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"PDX Blazers" <pdx_blazers.TakeThisOut@sacbeemail.com> wrote in message
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> I guess that means they don't need Nick Van Exel.

i don't expect cook or dickau to remain beyond the expansion cut down.

in that sense, yea, we could use X. but it seems dumb and he was only
rumored here along with damp for sheed. so i'm sure X as a potential blazer
is a history. but we could use a better backup and like nash said, he still
has a trade up his sleeve he'd like to get done. i'm hoping we see a
DD/Rube package sluffed off on someone.
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"PDX Blazers" <pdx_blazers.DeleteThis@sacbeemail.com> wrote in message
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> "toad" <papatoad.DeleteThis@mrstoad.com> wrote in message
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> > aldridge says sheed won't stay in atlanta after this year and they'll be
a
> > major player in free agency... brandon's salary also drops. they're
talking
> > kobe and others to atlanta. approximately 50 mill will be dropped off
> > atlanta's salary.
>
> Aldridge was doing some double counting, but it will still be a lot.
> Wallace, Person, and Brandon add up to about 36 million. Stories about
> the trade say Atlanta was right at the luxury tax threshold, which was
> about 56 million last year, so this will allow them to drop to around
> 20 million, about the same as Utah. So they're looking at even more
> cap room than Orlando had when they signed Hill and McGrady.

nice. thanks for that.

he said brandon's salary drops and he's getting 23 over the next 2 years. I
don't think both years drop off though. sheed 17. person nearly 8. terry
7. then there's glover 1 mill, jackson has a player option and who knows,
he may opt out, so that's another mill or 2... and 4 others who total about
2 mill.

so if only 1 year of brandon's salary drops off, then that means between
him, sheed, and person, that's yea, about 36. add the others and it comes
out to about 11 more, so about 47. it looks like they'll still be
responsible for 12 mill of brandon's salary next year, so that'll hurt, but
they should be a free agent player for the next 2 years.
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"toad" <papatoad RemoveThis @mrstoad.com> wrote in message
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> "PDX Blazers" <pdx_blazers RemoveThis @sacbeemail.com> wrote in message
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> > "toad" <papatoad RemoveThis @mrstoad.com> wrote in message
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> > > aldridge says sheed won't stay in atlanta after this year and they'll
be
> a
> > > major player in free agency... brandon's salary also drops. they're
> talking
> > > kobe and others to atlanta. approximately 50 mill will be dropped
off
> > > atlanta's salary.
> >
> > Aldridge was doing some double counting, but it will still be a lot.
> > Wallace, Person, and Brandon add up to about 36 million. Stories about
> > the trade say Atlanta was right at the luxury tax threshold, which was
> > about 56 million last year, so this will allow them to drop to around
> > 20 million, about the same as Utah. So they're looking at even more
> > cap room than Orlando had when they signed Hill and McGrady.
>
> nice. thanks for that.
>
> he said brandon's salary drops and he's getting 23 over the next 2 years.
I
> don't think both years drop off though.

They have to pay the contract or 20% of it not covered by insurance, but it
gets cap relief now from the injury retirement after two years. Does not
count against the cap this season.

> it looks like they'll still be
> responsible for 12 mill of brandon's salary next year, so that'll hurt,

They traded for the contract of a player not able to play for the above
reason, to clear cap.


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"toad" <papatoad.TakeThisOut@mrstoad.com> wrote in message news:<LieWb.8424$%X3.6058@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
>
> he said brandon's salary drops and he's getting 23 over the next 2 years.

Sounds right. I know it's 11 this year so that would mean 12 next year.

> I don't think both years drop off though.

They do, after he hasn't played in a game for two years (which will be some
time this month), but not in the way he was figuring. They can't take the
two years of salary and count it as one.

> sheed 17. person nearly 8. terry 7.

The Hawks matched an offer Terry got from Utah, so he has a few years
on his deal.

> then there's glover 1 mill, jackson has a player option and who knows,
> he may opt out, so that's another mill or 2... and 4 others who total
> about 2 mill.

I missed those, so that adds a little. Henderson, Crawford, and Terry
are apparently the only big ones they will have left.

> so if only 1 year of brandon's salary drops off, then that means between
> him, sheed, and person, that's yea, about 36. add the others and it comes
> out to about 11 more, so about 47. it looks like they'll still be
> responsible for 12 mill of brandon's salary next year, so that'll hurt, but
> they should be a free agent player for the next 2 years.

They should be a big time player this summer. With the way the market is
going they could have enough for at least two or three good players now
and enough for at least one more next year.
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"Gary Collard" <garycollard.RemoveThis@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Terraholm wrote:

> Dirk is a freak of nature, he can be used to "disprove" a lot of theories.
>
> Wallace is at least adequate, 34%, so he not quit shooting them but
> probably should do so less than he does now. IMO not 4 per game like he
> has this year.

As opposed to Dirk who is also at 34% this year and also takes 4 per game?


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