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Since: Jun 25, 2003 Posts: 67
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:32 pm
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Off-topic but still worth posting.
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Poll reveals most hated sports include dogfighting, golf
Those surveyed disliked violence, fake violence and gentility
MOST HATED SPORTS
1. Dogfighting
2. Pro Wrestling
3. Bullfighting
4. Pro Boxing
5. PGA Tour
6. PGA Seniors
7. LPGA Tour
8. NASCAR
9. Major League Soccer
10. ATP Men's Tennis
Source: The Associated Press
(AP) -- Popularity polls come and go. As the baseball playoffs begin, the
National Football League is boasting that one poll shows it is more than
twice as popular as the national pastime.
For a deeper insight into the American psyche, consider the sports that are
loathed the most.
No. 1 on the list, by far, is dogfighting, hated or disliked a lot by 81
percent of the public, according to a poll conducted by the Sports Marketing
Group in Atlanta.
No. 2 is pro wrestling, legal but farcical and more than a little trashy.
That's also its appeal to those who love it, though more than half the
nation can't stand the sight of over-muscled showmen slamming each other
around the ring -- fake or not.
No. 3 is bullfighting, a sport that Americans who haven't been to Spain or
Mexico or read Hemingway don't get, never see and, apparently, don't want.
Then there's pro boxing at No. 4, loathed by 31.3 percent of the public.
Need we say more than Mike Tyson and Don King?
No real surprises there, considering the violence of those sports and the
aversion toward them, especially by women. But this is where the list gets
interesting, with class, race and age figuring into the findings.
The genteel PGA Tour is the No. 5 most hated and disliked sport (30.4
percent), followed by the PGA seniors' Champions Tour (29.9), the LPGA Tour
(29.2), NASCAR (27.9), Major League Soccer (27.6) and the ATP men's tennis
tour (26.5). That's a lot of people who hate or dislike events that sponsors
are backing with billions of bucks.
All those sports, to be sure, have their share of passionate fans who love
them or like them a lot but the level of antipathy toward them is
astonishing.
Golf, even in the age of Tiger Woods, still turns off many Americans with
its snooty country club image. The image may not fit reality -- there are
plenty of public courses played by middle-class golfers -- but perception is
everything in polls.
Three times as many black fans -- 13.4 percent -- say they love or like the
PGA Tour now compared to 1993, doubtlessly because of Woods. But that hasn't
put much of a dent in the number of people who still can't stand the sport.
Ten years ago the hate/dislike figures on the PGA Tour were roughly the
same -- 31.9 percent.
NASCAR turns off almost as many with the opposite image: red, white and
blue -- or as some see it, redneck, blue collar and white skin -- even if it
is has broadened its appeal to millions who don't fit that description.
Soccer still seems like a foreign film with subtitles to many Americans, and
men's tennis has lacked a few small essentials: stars, diversity and
compelling rivalries.
They are all held in lower regard by more people than the NHL, the Arena
Football League, the Indy Racing League, women's college basketball and the
WNBA.
But the big story in this list of sports Americans hate most -- based on a
telephone poll of 1,000 respondents that is a prelude to a larger study
later this year -- is what comes next: the NBA, with 19.7 percent of the
country hating or disliking it, and Major League Baseball, with 17.5 percent
strongly against it.
For most of the sports, with the exception of NASCAR, which has grown both
in popularity and unpopularity with increased exposure on television, there
was little change from the Sports Marketing Group's study that asked the
same questions 10 years ago.
For the NBA, though, the hate/dislike responses increased sharply from 11.9
percent a decade ago, while baseball's negative numbers nearly doubled from
9.9 percent.
Baseball isn't quite as bad off as the NFL is claiming from a Harris Poll
that says pro football is more than twice as popular as baseball. In the
Sports Marketing Group poll, the NFL was loved or liked a lot by 42.8
percent of Americans, while baseball's popularity number was 31.8 percent.
"In the NBA, there are underlying racial issues and resentment about how the
players act, how many get arrested and how much they're paid," said Sports
Marketing Group managing director Nye Lavalle. "In baseball, the labor
disputes, the huge salaries, the perception of players on steroids and their
perceived arrogance are factors."
Ten years ago, only 12.5 percent of white Americans had strong feelings
against the NBA. In the poll this year, that soared to 21.1 percent of
whites who hated or disliked the NBA. The number of black respondents who
felt that way stayed virtually unchanged at under 3 percent.
"There's been a seismic shift in the fan base of the NBA," Lavalle said. "If
the league keeps going in the same direction, it's going to be in deep
trouble. Baseball is on the decline and it could be dying if it doesn't
change the way it's structured."
In other words, both sports may be going to the dogs.
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Since: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:34 pm
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"Lurker at the Threshhold" <Who_you.DeleteThis@SAYNOTOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Off-topic but still worth posting.
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> Poll reveals most hated sports include dogfighting, golf
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> Those surveyed disliked violence, fake violence and gentility
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> MOST HATED SPORTS
> 1. Dogfighting
> 2. Pro Wrestling
> 3. Bullfighting
> 4. Pro Boxing
> 5. PGA Tour
> 6. PGA Seniors
> 7. LPGA Tour
> 8. NASCAR
> 9. Major League Soccer
> 10. ATP Men's Tennis
> Source: The Associated Press
I think I know what you're getting at, but I disagree. Now, I'm not a
NASCAR fan by any means, however, when I look on tv, I see that NASCAR has
no problem filling the stands. If this survey were taken in the
Southeastern US, no way NASCAR would be there. If NASCAR were so hated,
why would it make so much money? Obviously, pro boxing is quite popular, or
else it wouldn't be on pay per view, and making money that way. Golf is on
tv all the time, mainly because so many Americans play it. I hestitate to
even refer to pro wrestling as a sport, but considering "jabroni" wasn't a
word in common usage 5 years ago, I'd say its also quite popular.
If you're trying to say that the WNBA has popularity over at least 10 pro
sports leagues based on this survey, I strongly disagree. >> Stay informed about: Sports most hated by Americans... |
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Since: Jul 11, 2003 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 5:25 pm
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>Now, I'm not a
>NASCAR fan by any means, however, when I look on tv, I see that NASCAR has
>no problem filling the stands. If this survey were taken in the
>Southeastern US, no way NASCAR would be there.
Nascar is a VERY polarizing topic. And yes, it's also somewhat regional.
Considering myself as living at the extreme southern end of the North Eastern
section of the country, I ally myself more with the "North East" component and
less with the "southern end" part. ...Meaning, I personally detest NASCAR.
It's an activity, not a sport. At least, by my definition. To qualify as a
sport, the human participants must be doing most of the work. So, car racing
is not a sport as the cars are doing most of the work. Same for horse racing.
The area I live in -- with regard to NASCAR (and other "southern" things, like
country music) -- is in a region where North and South bump into each other and
both lifestyles are very much in evidence. People here either love NASCAR or
despise it. It also becomes a convenient litmus test for developing new
friendships. How a person answers the question, "Do you like NASCAR?"
generally says a lot about that person. Personally, I think it's a good thing
that different regions of the country have different interests. Especially in
today's world where so much of the country has become McDonald-ized.
Just to pre-emptorily stop someone from posting that NASCAR is alive and well
throughout ALL of America -- yes, it indeed has a following "from sea to
shining sea". My point is that it is followed to a more intense degree and by
a greater proportion of the populace below the Mason-Dixon line than above it.
Even women's basketball has regional "pockets" of interest. Beside the State
of Connecticut, there's the well-known swath that basically covers the SEC and
extends up into Kentucky and Indiana.
Jim >> Stay informed about: Sports most hated by Americans... |
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Since: Jun 22, 2003 Posts: 68
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:35 am
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It's more than that. The Big 12 leads the nation in attendence as a conference.
New Mexico supports it very well as does the northwest. It's more that there's
pockets of no support. Unfortunately for women's basketball - with the
exception of Conn. most of those places are media centers such as Chicago and
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Since: Jun 25, 2003 Posts: 67
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:36 am
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"Yuri" <agillig.RemoveThis@REMOVETHISTOREPLYhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I think I know what you're getting at, but I disagree. Now, I'm not a
> NASCAR fan by any means, however, when I look on tv, I see that NASCAR has
> no problem filling the stands. If this survey were taken in the
> Southeastern US, no way NASCAR would be there. If NASCAR were so hated,
> why would it make so much money? Obviously, pro boxing is quite popular,
> or
> else it wouldn't be on pay per view, and making money that way. Golf is
> on
> tv all the time, mainly because so many Americans play it. I hestitate to
> even refer to pro wrestling as a sport, but considering "jabroni" wasn't a
> word in common usage 5 years ago, I'd say its also quite popular.
>
> If you're trying to say that the WNBA has popularity over at least 10 pro
> sports leagues based on this survey, I strongly disagree.
>
This poll does suggest that the WNBA is much less disliked or hated than a
number of other sports. Popularity is an entirely different issue, IMHO.
A sport can be very popular with some people and intensely disliked by many
others. The NBA would be a very graphic example of this if this survey is
accurate.
How "dogfighting" and Bullfighting made the list is beyond me. It's not like
dogfights or Bullfights are regularly shown on ABC or NBC.
Pro wrestling isn't a sport, it's a show and everybody knows it.
That puts Boxing and Golf at the top of the list.
Both sports obviously have a lot of fans, but both sports appear to
have a lot of people that dislike them, too.
Undoubtedly different people for different reasons.
Boxing is too corrupt and violent. Hard to believe it was once one of the
most popular spectator sports in the United States if not the most popular
spectator sport.
Golf? How can people watch Golf on TV and stay awake? It's boring.
I really don't know much about NASCAR. Can't comment on it.
I find it hard to believe that enough people are familiar at all with Major
League Soccer to put it on a top ten "dislike" list. It's probably just
taken as a generic for soccer in general. Probably the same people that hate
Golf. Undoubtedly for the same reason.
As for Men's Tennis, I think the writer of the article missed the reason
it's so disliked. IMHO: John McEnroe, the face and poster boy for the sport.
People dislike his sport because they dislike him personally. >> Stay informed about: Sports most hated by Americans... |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:05 pm
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"Lurker at the Threshhold" <Who_you DeleteThis @SAYNOTOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This poll does suggest that the WNBA is much less disliked or hated than a
> number of other sports. Popularity is an entirely different issue, IMHO.
> A sport can be very popular with some people and intensely disliked by
many
> others. The NBA would be a very graphic example of this if this survey is
> accurate.
I think a more accurate way of putting it is simply that feelings toward the
WNBA are apathetic. People don't really hate it, because it doesn't annoy
us like the XFL did. At the same time, it doesn't get us excited either.
Its just kinda....there.
> Golf? How can people watch Golf on TV and stay awake? It's boring.
I agree, but again, a lot of people really like golf. >> Stay informed about: Sports most hated by Americans... |
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Since: Jun 25, 2003 Posts: 27
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:23 pm
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I think there is a significant portion of people who hate all spectator
sports. They also may hate or have no interest in participating in any sports.
I have zero ideas as to how many such people exist and I am not worried about
such tastes.
Obviously, there is some difference between people who "hate" sports and those
who have no interest.
Enjoy!! all;)
Irv >> Stay informed about: Sports most hated by Americans... |
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