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Blazer Fan Dan

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:11 pm
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sounds like Phoenix is the strong horse for the 2009 All Star game (the 3rd
one they've had since 1975)..and Toronto is making a case for the 2008 AS
game..

houston has the 2006, but I'm not sure who has 2007. The NBA needs to get
it's head out of it's ass and give it to Portland in 2007 (and even then, I
think it's only about 10 years too late)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:43 am
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"Blazer Fan Dan" <me.DeleteThis@server.net> wrote in message
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> sounds like Phoenix is the strong horse for the 2009 All Star game (the
> 3rd one they've had since 1975)..and Toronto is making a case for the 2008
> AS game..
>
> houston has the 2006, but I'm not sure who has 2007. The NBA needs to get
> it's head out of it's ass and give it to Portland in 2007 (and even then,
> I think it's only about 10 years too late)

Never happen.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 9:11 am
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C The Shocker <chrispdx.TakeThisOut@comcast.FUCKOFFSPAMMERS.net> scribbled:

> "Blazer Fan Dan" <me.TakeThisOut@server.net> wrote in message
> news:37vbltF5e43tkU1@individual.net...
>> sounds like Phoenix is the strong horse for the 2009 All Star game
>> (the 3rd one they've had since 1975)..and Toronto is making a case
>> for the 2008 AS game..
>>
>> houston has the 2006, but I'm not sure who has 2007. The NBA needs
>> to get it's head out of it's ass and give it to Portland in 2007
>> (and even then, I think it's only about 10 years too late)
>
> Never happen.

I agree. and if the Blazers would at least call the NBA out on it's stupid
criteria, I'd be ok with it.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:50 am
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"Blazer Fan Dan" <me.TakeThisOut@server.net> wrote in message
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> C The Shocker <chrispdx.TakeThisOut@comcast.FUCKOFFSPAMMERS.net> scribbled:
>
> > "Blazer Fan Dan" <me.TakeThisOut@server.net> wrote in message
> > news:37vbltF5e43tkU1@individual.net...
> >> sounds like Phoenix is the strong horse for the 2009 All Star game
> >> (the 3rd one they've had since 1975)..and Toronto is making a case
> >> for the 2008 AS game..
> >>
> >> houston has the 2006, but I'm not sure who has 2007. The NBA needs
> >> to get it's head out of it's ass and give it to Portland in 2007
> >> (and even then, I think it's only about 10 years too late)
> >
> > Never happen.
>
> I agree. and if the Blazers would at least call the NBA out on it's stupid
> criteria, I'd be ok with it.

Steve Patterson has bought into and agreed with their position, for what
it's worth. He affirmed it in a converation with me about it during a Fan Ad
Board meeting.

He (said he was) working with Katz before she left office on Blazer/Paul
Allen co-investment with the city in a "Headquarters Hotel" that would serve
the Rose Garden complex and the Oregon Convention Center, but that's
probably deader than a doornail given Tom Potter's election and Paul's RG
bankruptcy.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:11 pm
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Seattle will host a Super Bowl long before Portland will even get an
honorable mention for an AS game.

"Blazer Fan Dan" <me DeleteThis @server.net> wrote in message
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> The NBA needs to get it's head out of it's ass and give it to Portland in
> 2007 (and even then, I think it's only about 10 years too late)
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:21 am
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In article <zdudnTlpdeM-tIDfRVn-jA.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
sinistersteve <sinistersteve.RemoveThis@goto.hell> wrote:
>
>Seattle will host a Super Bowl long before Portland will even get an
>honorable mention for an AS game.


I happened to stay at a hotel in LA last year which was part of the
All-Star festivities. It was my understanding that there were about 4-5
hotels which were designated as 'official' by the NBA, although they were not
all booked solid. (In fact, the luxury hotel I stayed at cost less than average
on that weekend and there was no problem getting a room on short notice.) I
realize that Portland does not have 26 4-5 star hotels like LA does, but are the
accomodations really so stark that they cannot handle a couple thousand people
from the NBA and another fifteen thousand attendees? A quick check on
Expedia shows 7 pages of hotels, including 9 that are rated 4 stars. What
is the major reason Portland is not an option?


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:21 am
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"D. Gerasimatos" <dim.DeleteThis@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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I
> realize that Portland does not have 26 4-5 star hotels like LA does, but
> are the
> accomodations really so stark that they cannot handle a couple thousand
> people
> from the NBA and another fifteen thousand attendees?

And the 15,000+ attendees is assuming not a single soul will purchase a
ticket in the local area.

As for the hotel rooms, you would think that after Portland spent all that
money on a 'much needed' extension to the 'popular' convention center, a
major hotel or two would have been erected to supply all that demand for the
new convention space and all the thousands and thousands of people that will
flock to Portland to have their convention.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:21 am
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D. Gerasimatos <dim DeleteThis @soda.csua.berkeley.edu> scribbled:

> I happened to stay at a hotel in LA last year which was part of the
> All-Star festivities. It was my understanding that there were about 4-
> 5 hotels which were designated as 'official' by the NBA, although
> they were not all booked solid. (In fact, the luxury hotel I stayed
> at cost less than average on that weekend and there was no problem
> getting a room on short notice.) I realize that Portland does not
> have 26 4-5 star hotels like LA does, but are the accomodations
> really so stark that they cannot handle a couple thousand people from
> the NBA and another fifteen thousand attendees? A quick check on
> Expedia shows 7 pages of hotels, including 9 that are rated 4 stars.
> What is the major reason Portland is not an option?

I think they use that as a criteria..that the hotels are not "close" to the
hotels. Since most of the nicer hotels in Portland are in SW "Downtown"
portland, and the Garden is in NE "downtown" portland..

it's bullshit is what it is. Really, I think it's because of 2 reasons. The
NBA doesn't like us (not trying to be a victim) and the city itself won't
dole out hte money to help the blazers get the game.
>
>
> Dimitri


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:21 am
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In article <ivCdnamupMDQ3YDfRVn-tw.DeleteThis@comcast.com>,
sinistersteve <sinistersteve.DeleteThis@goto.hell> wrote:
>"D. Gerasimatos" <dim.DeleteThis@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
>news:cvjdn3$1o5i$1@agate.berkeley.edu...
>I
>> realize that Portland does not have 26 4-5 star hotels like LA does, but
>> are the
>> accomodations really so stark that they cannot handle a couple thousand
>> people
>> from the NBA and another fifteen thousand attendees?
>
>And the 15,000+ attendees is assuming not a single soul will purchase a
>ticket in the local area.


Yes, and...?


>As for the hotel rooms, you would think that after Portland spent all that
>money on a 'much needed' extension to the 'popular' convention center, a
>major hotel or two would have been erected to supply all that demand for the
>new convention space and all the thousands and thousands of people that will
>flock to Portland to have their convention.


I guess my point is that Portland already seems to have enough hotels,
doesn't it? Or is that the argument against having the All-Star game?


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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:27 am
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In article <384ubdF5hed4oU1.DeleteThis@individual.net>,
Blazer Fan Dan <me.DeleteThis@server.net> wrote:
>
>I think they use that as a criteria..that the hotels are not "close" to the
>hotels. Since most of the nicer hotels in Portland are in SW "Downtown"
>portland, and the Garden is in NE "downtown" portland..


How far is this? It is 13 miles from where I stayed (and saw players stay)
to Staples.


>it's bullshit is what it is. Really, I think it's because of 2 reasons. The
>NBA doesn't like us (not trying to be a victim) and the city itself won't
>dole out hte money to help the blazers get the game.


Well, I can say that having the game isn't very exciting anyway, since
(as has been said) locals pretty much won't get tickets. The All-Star
Game is the NBA equivalent to the Oscars. The former players, legends,
and people in the game now get together and have a big party. It doesn't
offer much for the fan of the game except for the game itself, which is
difficult to get tickets for.


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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:27 am
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D. Gerasimatos <dim DeleteThis @soda.csua.berkeley.edu> scribbled:

> In article <384ubdF5hed4oU1 DeleteThis @individual.net>,
> Blazer Fan Dan <me DeleteThis @server.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think they use that as a criteria..that the hotels are not "close"
>> to the hotels. Since most of the nicer hotels in Portland are in SW
>> "Downtown" portland, and the Garden is in NE "downtown" portland..
>
>
> How far is this? It is 13 miles from where I stayed (and saw players
> stay) to Staples.

nope. it's maybe 2 miles (and thats beind liberal) from the Garden to most
of the hotels.
>
>> it's bullshit is what it is. Really, I think it's because of 2
>> reasons. The NBA doesn't like us (not trying to be a victim) and the
>> city itself won't dole out hte money to help the blazers get the
>> game.

>
> Well, I can say that having the game isn't very exciting anyway, since
> (as has been said) locals pretty much won't get tickets. The All-Star
> Game is the NBA equivalent to the Oscars. The former players, legends,
> and people in the game now get together and have a big party. It
> doesn't offer much for the fan of the game except for the game
> itself, which is difficult to get tickets for.
>
>
> Dimitri

I actually dont' want an all star game in Portland. the less pimping
portland does for a league thats pissed on us enogh times, the better.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:25 am
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D. Gerasimatos wrote:
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> I guess my point is that Portland already seems to have enough
hotels,
> doesn't it? Or is that the argument against having the All-Star game?

1. The city is considered a hick town by NBA standards.
2. The arena needs fixing up, but it probably won't happen
because nobody wants to pay for it.
3. The team has become one of the worst in the NBA, and has been a
total non-factor during All-Star Weekend for the last two seasons
(no all-stars, rookies, sophomores, dunkers, celebrities, etc)
4. The February weather was nice this year, but that's not usually the
case.
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