T.Thomas 32 points, Marbury 14 Assists

"G. Smitts" <04234JS.DeleteThis@asqeiuca.com> wrote in message
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> Van Horn who?
>
> Knicks 114, Wizards 110
> 3/16/2004 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
>
> Bucks 99, Trail Blazers 100
> 3/16/2004 Bradley Center, Milwaukee, WI

i'm leaning towards TT over KVH myself, but in this case, i hate to say it,
but portland came in having won 3 in a row -- over the kings and the
t-wolves, twice. we barely pulled this one out against the pitiful wizards.
and to his credit, KVH seems to have hit a jumper late in the portland game
(25 seconds left, taking the lead no less), something i can't remember him
doing for the knicks too often.
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knicks homer wrote:
> "G. Smitts" <04234JS.TakeThisOut@asqeiuca.com> wrote in message
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>> Van Horn who?
>>
>> Knicks 114, Wizards 110 3/16/2004 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
>>
>> Bucks 99, Trail Blazers 100 3/16/2004 Bradley Center, Milwaukee, WI
>
> i'm leaning towards TT over KVH myself, but in this case, i hate to say it, but portland came in
> having won 3 in a row -- over the kings and the t-wolves, twice. we barely pulled this one out
> against the pitiful wizards. and to his credit, KVH seems to have hit a jumper late in the
> portland game (25 seconds left, taking the lead no less), something i can't remember him doing
> for the knicks too often.

The Wizards played hungry for a win and it showed in the stats.
The Bucks played to prove they were the better team with KVH.

Both times the Knicks were beat the first half only to comeback the second half.

Knicks' m.o. (for years) was to do good the first two quarters only to get k.o.'d in the last two.
To see them flourish in the 3rd and 4th, and not peter out is something dreams are made of;-)
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On 17 Mar 2004 04:48:07 GMT, europa2846 DeleteThis @aol.com (Europa2846) wrote:

>>From: "G. Smitts" 04234JS DeleteThis @asqeiuca.com
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>>
>>Van Horn who?
>>
>>
> That's the guy who sank a cold-blooded jumper that should've been the
>game-winner for the Bucks tonight.
>
I think it is safe to say the key words here are "SHOULD'VE BEEN"
Oh well dont be surprised if vanhorn is with another team next season.
Why does this keep happeneing???
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knicks homer wrote:
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> "G. Smitts" <04234JS.DeleteThis@asqeiuca.com> wrote in message
> news:SHQ5c.25266$%06.15412@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Van Horn who?
> >
> > Knicks 114, Wizards 110
> > 3/16/2004 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
> >
> > Bucks 99, Trail Blazers 100
> > 3/16/2004 Bradley Center, Milwaukee, WI
>
> i'm leaning towards TT over KVH myself, but in this case, i hate to say it,
> but portland came in having won 3 in a row -- over the kings and the
> t-wolves, twice. we barely pulled this one out against the pitiful wizards.
> and to his credit, KVH seems to have hit a jumper late in the portland game
> (25 seconds left, taking the lead no less), something i can't remember him
> doing for the knicks too often.

Keith Van Horn is a better shooter than Tim Thomas. I doubt that
Thomas will ever the perimeter threat Van Horn is. What is
damningt to Thomas, is that Van Horn consistently out rebounds
Thomas. It should be the reverse.

David
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"David Lentz" <dlentz10@/*NOSPAM*/rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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> knicks homer wrote:
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> > "G. Smitts" <04234JS.RemoveThis@asqeiuca.com> wrote in message
> > news:SHQ5c.25266$%06.15412@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > Van Horn who?
> > >
> > > Knicks 114, Wizards 110
> > > 3/16/2004 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
> > >
> > > Bucks 99, Trail Blazers 100
> > > 3/16/2004 Bradley Center, Milwaukee, WI
> >
> > i'm leaning towards TT over KVH myself, but in this case, i hate to say
it,
> > but portland came in having won 3 in a row -- over the kings and the
> > t-wolves, twice. we barely pulled this one out against the pitiful
wizards.
> > and to his credit, KVH seems to have hit a jumper late in the portland
game
> > (25 seconds left, taking the lead no less), something i can't remember
him
> > doing for the knicks too often.
>
> Keith Van Horn is a better shooter than Tim Thomas. I doubt that
> Thomas will ever the perimeter threat Van Horn is. What is
> damningt to Thomas, is that Van Horn consistently out rebounds
> Thomas. It should be the reverse.
>
> David

For whatever reason, I would prefer TT to go at the basket than settle for
jumpers. I also think he attempts too many three's, but he did a good job of
knocking them down yesterday. I'm hoping that this will be the start of
something for TT. This is his second good game in a row.
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Glenn Greenstein wrote:

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> > Keith Van Horn is a better shooter than Tim Thomas. I doubt that
> > Thomas will ever the perimeter threat Van Horn is. What is
> > damningt to Thomas, is that Van Horn consistently out rebounds
> > Thomas. It should be the reverse.
> >
> > David
>
> For whatever reason, I would prefer TT to go at the basket than settle for
> jumpers. I also think he attempts too many three's, but he did a good job of
> knocking them down yesterday. I'm hoping that this will be the start of
> something for TT. This is his second good game in a row.

Tim Thomas is not the cure for the Knicks offense. That is
Thomas can't make a team pay for playing a sagging defense.
Thomas needs to bring a game face every night, and work on
defense and rebounding, then take scoring as it becomes
available. For Thomas to think he is a scorer is a mistake.
For Thomas to think he was a rebounded would be a godsend.

David
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>From: SCI-FI GUY SCI-FIGUY RemoveThis @ufo.com
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>On 17 Mar 2004 04:48:07 GMT, europa2846 RemoveThis @aol.com (Europa2846) wrote:
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>>>From: "G. Smitts" 04234JS RemoveThis @asqeiuca.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Van Horn who?
>>>
>>>
>> That's the guy who sank a cold-blooded jumper that should've been the
>>game-winner for the Bucks tonight.
>>
>I think it is safe to say the key words here are "SHOULD'VE BEEN"
>
>
Yup, but the point is he came through in the clutch when the Bucks needed
him. He did his part to try and help the team win.
>
>
>Oh well dont be surprised if vanhorn is with another team next season.
>Why does this keep happeneing???
>
>
Because his contract is ridiculous for a player of his production. Just like
Tim Thomas. For $4-5 million a year, Van Horn would be considered a fine NBA
player. Same with Thomas.
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Its still a split in my book...

Lets see how things look at the end of the season, or the start of the
playoffs... the first 5 games the bucks looked like they got the
better end of the deal... now the last 5 or so games the knicks are
looking better & timmy is finally playing to his full potential...

time will tell... we are having a lot of problems & it isn't just Van
Horn... Tony is taking some crazy shots that just aren't hitting
anymore, and the team isn't stepping up with the intensity they had
before the all-star game.... back then they played like every game was
the last game of the season, lately I think they have gotten
comfortable with their standings in the east, but teams are really
catching up...

....like the collection of rejects, the Knicks...
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"TRUTHHURTS" <ruutu2003 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> That is just plain stupid! TT is a SF while VB is a PF/C. They are
> totally different.

Just ask TT to play PF. He pouts like a baby and refuses to go in the game.
WAH WAH!
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AJ Karim wrote:
> Its still a split in my book...
>
> Lets see how things look at the end of the season, or the start of the playoffs... the first 5
> games the bucks looked like they got the better end of the deal... now the last 5 or so games
> the knicks are looking better & timmy is finally playing to his full potential...
>
> time will tell... we are having a lot of problems & it isn't just Van Horn... Tony is taking
> some crazy shots that just aren't hitting anymore, and the team isn't stepping up with the
> intensity they had before the all-star game.... back then they played like every game was the
> last game of the season, lately I think they have gotten comfortable with their standings in
> the east, but teams are really catching up.....like the collection of rejects, the Knicks...

The Bucks need to stave off the surging Cavs and my favorite collection of rejects the Knicks;)

The problem for Milwaukee is the Bucks have no place to go but down.

Pacers, Pistons, Nets are not going anywhere. The only available spot up is occupied by the
Hornets, and even though the Hornets can be moved, the Bucks show no inclination to move 'em.
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:28:32 -0600, "Paul Jensen"
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>"TRUTHHURTS" <ruutu2003.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> That is just plain stupid! TT is a SF while VB is a PF/C. They are
>> totally different.
>
>Just ask TT to play PF. He pouts like a baby and refuses to go in the game.
>WAH WAH!
>
Why would you ask TT to play PF when he is a natural SF? Wouldn't that
be just as dumb as asking you to try to play basketball???
TT is a SF and that is that! It might be easier for him to play SG
than PF.
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SCI-FI GUY wrote:
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> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:28:32 -0600, "Paul Jensen"
> <pjensennospam RemoveThis @gnt.net> wrote:
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> >"TRUTHHURTS" <ruutu2003 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >> That is just plain stupid! TT is a SF while VB is a PF/C. They are
> >> totally different.
> >
> >Just ask TT to play PF. He pouts like a baby and refuses to go in the game.
> >WAH WAH!
> >
> Why would you ask TT to play PF when he is a natural SF? Wouldn't that
> be just as dumb as asking you to try to play basketball???
> TT is a SF and that is that! It might be easier for him to play SG
> than PF.

Tim Thomas is paid to play basketball. For ten million dollars a
year, he can play where is told. Now if the Knicks happened to
have any small forwards, like a player Shandon Anderson happens
to dream he is, playing T. Thomas as the Four might make sense.
Not with this roster.

David
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 16:17:15 GMT, David Lentz
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>SCI-FI GUY wrote:
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>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:28:32 -0600, "Paul Jensen"
>> <pjensennospam.RemoveThis@gnt.net> wrote:
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>> >"TRUTHHURTS" <ruutu2003.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:467b0167.0403180724.2e6dc97d@posting.google.com...
>> >> That is just plain stupid! TT is a SF while VB is a PF/C. They are
>> >> totally different.
>> >
>> >Just ask TT to play PF. He pouts like a baby and refuses to go in the game.
>> >WAH WAH!
>> >
>> Why would you ask TT to play PF when he is a natural SF? Wouldn't that
>> be just as dumb as asking you to try to play basketball???
>> TT is a SF and that is that! It might be easier for him to play SG
>> than PF.
>
>Tim Thomas is paid to play basketball. For ten million dollars a
>year, he can play where is told. Now if the Knicks happened to
>have any small forwards, like a player Shandon Anderson happens
>to dream he is, playing T. Thomas as the Four might make sense.
>Not with this roster.
>
>David

Huh???
Can anyone translate what this guy is saying?
Me thinks he knows very little about pro basketball or even basketball
in general. TT is a SF period. Can he play PF? Who knows? Who cares??
That is no this position. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? With TT skillset he would
be better suited to probably play SG before he plays PF. What the hell
does shandon anderson have to do with anything? Hey wait I think he is
making 10 million a year LOL!!! Is that what you meant? Hahahahaha
LOL!
TT as a PF will not make sens on any roster!! Do you finally get it???
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