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umo

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:41 am
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Tim Duncan is probably the best power forward in NBA history but
outside of the city of San Antonio he excites nobody. There are
millions of basketball fans who literally worship basketball stars; so
why are fans consistently indifferent to Duncan? I think Duncan and
David Robinson are strikingly similar in that they are both supremely
gifted & skilled players devoid of basketball passion. Duncan was not
a basketball junkie during his formative years. He did not spend
endless summers of his childhood shooting hoop alone while pretending
the clock was ticking down as he sank a jump shot at the buzzer. That
is a playground dream sequence played out countless times by every fat
middle aged hoop fan as a young boy; but not Duncan. Tim Duncan spent
his early years devoted to the sport of swimming and he was damn good
at it. Mother Nature altered his destiny by growing him into a seven
foot giant. Duncan made a cold, calculated, practical decision to
pursue basketball because it offered him the best chance at a free
first rate college education, and a shot at a magnificently lucrative
NBA. Duncan dedicated himself to the repetitious drills necessary to
master the fundamentals of basketball. His methodical, machinelike
style of play reflect his emotionally detached, robotic, efficient
approach to the game. Nobody can deny Duncan's greatness. But the vast
overwhelming majority of fans are not awestruck or astonished when
they watch Duncan play basketball. Tim is universally respected for
the superb mechanical precision of his skills; but he will never get
the love and adulation fans reserve for great players who manifest the
breathtaking beauty, creative artistry, dynamic aesthetics, and sheer
childlike joy & exuberance of playing basketball.

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Dave McNulla

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:27 am
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On Nov 25, 8:41 am, umo <shor....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tim Duncan is probably the best power forward in NBA history but
> outside of the city of San Antonio he excites nobody. There are
> millions of basketball fans who literally worship basketball stars; so
> why are fans consistently indifferent to Duncan? I think Duncan and
> David Robinson are strikingly similar in that they are both supremely
> gifted & skilled players devoid of basketball passion. Duncan was not
> a basketball junkie during his formative years. He did not spend
> endless summers of his childhood shooting hoop alone while pretending
> the clock was ticking down as he sank a jump shot at the buzzer. That
> is a playground dream sequence played out countless times by every fat
> middle aged hoop fan as a young boy; but not Duncan. Tim Duncan spent
> his early years devoted to the sport of swimming and he was damn good
> at it. Mother Nature altered his destiny by growing him into a seven
> foot giant. Duncan made a cold, calculated, practical decision to
> pursue basketball because it offered him the best chance at a free
> first rate college education, and a shot at a magnificently lucrative
> NBA. Duncan dedicated himself to the repetitious drills necessary to
> master the fundamentals of basketball. His methodical, machinelike
> style of play reflect his emotionally detached, robotic, efficient
> approach to the game. Nobody can deny Duncan's greatness. But the vast
> overwhelming majority of fans are not awestruck or astonished when
> they watch Duncan play basketball. Tim is universally respected for
> the superb mechanical precision of his skills; but he will never get
> the love and adulation fans reserve for great players who manifest the
> breathtaking beauty, creative artistry, dynamic aesthetics, and sheer
> childlike joy & exuberance of playing basketball.

you don't know much about tim duncan. he's the most competitive person
on the spurs.

dave

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coorslte

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:29 pm
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umo wrote:
> Tim Duncan is probably the best power forward in NBA history but
> outside of the city of San Antonio he excites nobody. There are
> millions of basketball fans who literally worship basketball stars; so
> why are fans consistently indifferent to Duncan? I think Duncan and
> David Robinson are strikingly similar in that they are both supremely
> gifted & skilled players devoid of basketball passion. Duncan was not
> a basketball junkie during his formative years. He did not spend
> endless summers of his childhood shooting hoop alone while pretending
> the clock was ticking down as he sank a jump shot at the buzzer. That
> is a playground dream sequence played out countless times by every fat
> middle aged hoop fan as a young boy; but not Duncan. Tim Duncan spent
> his early years devoted to the sport of swimming and he was damn good
> at it. Mother Nature altered his destiny by growing him into a seven
> foot giant. Duncan made a cold, calculated, practical decision to
> pursue basketball because it offered him the best chance at a free
> first rate college education, and a shot at a magnificently lucrative
> NBA. Duncan dedicated himself to the repetitious drills necessary to
> master the fundamentals of basketball. His methodical, machinelike
> style of play reflect his emotionally detached, robotic, efficient
> approach to the game. Nobody can deny Duncan's greatness. But the vast
> overwhelming majority of fans are not awestruck or astonished when
> they watch Duncan play basketball. Tim is universally respected for
> the superb mechanical precision of his skills; but he will never get
> the love and adulation fans reserve for great players who manifest the
> breathtaking beauty, creative artistry, dynamic aesthetics, and sheer
> childlike joy & exuberance of playing basketball.

You know the Spurs can call him a power forward, the NBA can call him a
PF and you can call him one but he is really a center. Yes he can face
the basket and take an 18 footer but he is really a center and when push
come to shove he will generally be covering the other team's center at
the end of the game. He is versatile and without a doubt a great
player but the Spurs should just admit we run a two center system going
back to David Robinson and Timmy Duncan.

I love Tim Duncan and would trade anyone for him but he would be my
starting center when he got here.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:09 pm
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Tim Duncan is labeled a power forward by basketball pundits out of
deference, respect and consideration for his legacy. As a power
forward his closest competitor for all time greatness is Karl Malone.
If Duncan is officially designated a center he will have to get in
with Russell, Wilt, Jabbar, Moses, Olajuwon and Shaq if he wants to be
considered the Greatest of All Time at that position.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:13 am
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umo wrote:
> Tim Duncan is labeled a power forward by basketball pundits out of
> deference, respect and consideration for his legacy. As a power
> forward his closest competitor for all time greatness is Karl Malone.
> If Duncan is officially designated a center he will have to get in
> with Russell, Wilt, Jabbar, Moses, Olajuwon and Shaq if he wants to be
> considered the Greatest of All Time at that position.

I am not sure players from different eras can be compared. It is a
different game now. I think Duncan compares favorably with the
centers listed above.....and definitely holds his own with Shaq. I am
getting off my soap box now.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:45 pm
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:09:28 -0800 (PST), umo <shoreke RemoveThis @gmail.com>
scribbled the following on a napkin:

>Tim Duncan is labeled a power forward by basketball pundits out of
>deference, respect and consideration for his legacy. As a power
>forward his closest competitor for all time greatness is Karl Malone.
>If Duncan is officially designated a center he will have to get in
>with Russell, Wilt, Jabbar, Moses, Olajuwon and Shaq if he wants to be
>considered the Greatest of All Time at that position.

He is listed as a power forward because he was drafted to be a power
forward, was made a power forward by the team that drafted him, has
started at power forward every game he's played, and considers himself
a forward. Period.
The fact that he is capable of playing center, and does so when the
situation calls for it, doesn't make him a center. He's a versatile
POWER forward.
Get over it and give him is props.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:51 pm
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On Nov 27, 10:29 am, coorslte <coors....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> umo wrote:
> > Tim Duncan is probably the best power forward in NBA history but
> > outside of the city of San Antonio he excites nobody. There are
> > millions of basketball fans who literally worship basketball stars; so
> > why are fans consistently indifferent to Duncan? I think Duncan and
> > David Robinson are strikingly similar in that they are both supremely
> > gifted & skilled players devoid of basketball passion. Duncan was not
> > a basketball junkie during his formative years. He did not spend
> > endless summers of his childhood shooting hoop alone while pretending
> > the clock was ticking down as he sank a jump shot at the buzzer. That
> > is a playground dream sequence played out countless times by every fat
> > middle aged hoop fan as a young boy; but not Duncan. Tim Duncan spent
> > his early years devoted to the sport of swimming and he was damn good
> > at it. Mother Nature altered his destiny by growing him into a seven
> > foot giant. Duncan made a cold, calculated, practical decision to
> > pursue basketball because it offered him the best chance at a free
> > first rate college education, and a shot at a magnificently lucrative
> > NBA. Duncan dedicated himself to the repetitious drills necessary to
> > master the fundamentals of basketball. His methodical, machinelike
> > style of play reflect his emotionally detached, robotic, efficient
> > approach to the game. Nobody can deny Duncan's greatness. But the vast
> > overwhelming majority of fans are not awestruck or astonished when
> > they watch Duncan play basketball. Tim is universally respected for
> > the superb mechanical precision of his skills; but he will never get
> > the love and adulation fans reserve for great players who manifest the
> > breathtaking beauty, creative artistry, dynamic aesthetics, and sheer
> > childlike joy & exuberance of playing basketball.
>
> You know the Spurs can call him a power forward, the NBA can call him a
> PF and you can call him one but he is really a center. Yes he can face
> the basket and take an 18 footer but he is really a center and when push
> come to shove he will generally be covering the other team's center at
> the end of the game.

i never read that rule. but even if i did, i'd ask if maybe the center
for the other team was temporarily playing power forward and should be
called a power forward. every time somebody brings this up, i ask what
the definition of a center is, what the definition of a power forward
is. nobody is capable give a definition that makes tim duncan a
center. they just say i know it when i see it. maybe. maybe not.

dave
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