Time to start Pimping Roy for all-star

On Jan 5, 12:07 am, Blazer Fan Dan <BlazerFan....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 11:59 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > He's going to need the help in a crowded field. It's not going to
> > come from votes, it's going to be voices that have to be heard.
> > Yours.
>
> > Nash
> > Kobe
> > Baron
> > Paul
> > D. Williams
> > Roy
> > Parker
> > McGrady
> > Ginobli
> > Iverson
> > Martin
>
> > Tough competition.....They ALL Deserve spots too.....except maybe T
> > Mac ......
>
> If Zach didn't get it last year due to the teams record, than Martin
> doesn't this year (that and being out for a chunk this season).
> Ginobli made it last year iirc. McGrady has been injured a fair
> amount, and unless he's voted in as a starter (god bless the internets
> working in China), I don't see how he can be justified anymore.
>
> I know I'm a bit of a homer, but realistically, Kobe and Nash are the
> only ones who out-right deserve spots. Iverson probably will because
> blah blah..
>
> Paul and Williams are his competition, imho. And if the team maintains
> a lead over Utah in the division, the coaches will reward the team and
> vote in Roy.
>
> And if they don't? Well, let's just say it wouldn't surprise me in the
> slightest. The NBA is pretty much a sham now anyway.

How can you not include Baron Davis, Chris Paul, Roy and Iverson as
deserving with Kobe and Nash. All of those guys are deserving. I
agree with you on Martin and McGrady. Ginobli is also deserving as he
carried his team when Duncan was out and when Parker was out. Parker
is also deserving. THat's the thing a lot of guys deserve it and are
playing all star caliber ball....

Rizzo
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Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
> On Jan 4, 11:59 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> He's going to need the help in a crowded field. It's not going to
>> come from votes, it's going to be voices that have to be heard.
>> Yours.
>>
>> Nash
>> Kobe
>> Baron
>> Paul
>> D. Williams
>> Roy
>> Parker
>> McGrady
>> Ginobli
>> Iverson
>> Martin
>>
>> Tough competition.....They ALL Deserve spots too.....except maybe T
>> Mac ......
>
> If Zach didn't get it last year due to the teams record, than Martin
> doesn't this year (that and being out for a chunk this season).
> Ginobli made it last year iirc. McGrady has been injured a fair
> amount, and unless he's voted in as a starter (god bless the internets
> working in China), I don't see how he can be justified anymore.
>
> I know I'm a bit of a homer, but realistically, Kobe and Nash are the
> only ones who out-right deserve spots. Iverson probably will because
> blah blah..

Parker is leading the elite team in scoring at 20 ppg, on 50% shooting and
has 7+ asts...he was the finals MVP last year. Paul is in a tougher
division than Roy so I doubt that if Portland is leading the NW it will be a
reason to lean towards Roy over Paul. Paul is averaging a double double at
21 and 10 asts. I would not leave him off the absolutely deserve it list..
Davis has a great case too unless the GSW take a real dive in the standings
as does stephen Jackson (except the coaches will never vote for him) ..
Iverson is scoring 26 on his best FGP ( 46%) in many years and has 7 asts so
I think he deserves it a lot more now than some of his Philly years.

>
> Paul and Williams are his competition, imho. And if the team maintains
> a lead over Utah in the division, the coaches will reward the team and
> vote in Roy.

Devon's team is going backwards... I think Roy might beat him out if there
are enough spots. Seems like there are often injuries but it is a deep
conference.

Have to see how this month goes.

>
> And if they don't? Well, let's just say it wouldn't surprise me in the
> slightest. The NBA is pretty much a sham now anyway.

He will get more hype in the junior game for being left off....


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Laurel T
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doesn't want to hear, sees what he doesn't
want to see, and does what he doesn't want to do"
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On Jan 5, 10:50 am, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 11:59 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> He's going to need the help in a crowded field. It's not going to
> >> come from votes, it's going to be voices that have to be heard.
> >> Yours.
>
> >> Nash
> >> Kobe
> >> Baron
> >> Paul
> >> D. Williams
> >> Roy
> >> Parker
> >> McGrady
> >> Ginobli
> >> Iverson
> >> Martin
>
> >> Tough competition.....They ALL Deserve spots too.....except maybe T
> >> Mac ......
>
> > If Zach didn't get it last year due to the teams record, than Martin
> > doesn't this year (that and being out for a chunk this season).
> > Ginobli made it last year iirc. McGrady has been injured a fair
> > amount, and unless he's voted in as a starter (god bless the internets
> > working in China), I don't see how he can be justified anymore.
>
> > I know I'm a bit of a homer, but realistically, Kobe and Nash are the
> > only ones who out-right deserve spots. Iverson probably will because
> > blah blah..
>
> Parker is leading the elite team in scoring at 20 ppg, on 50% shooting and
> has 7+ asts...he was the finals MVP last year. Paul is in a tougher
> division than Roy so I doubt that if Portland is leading the NW it will be a
> reason to lean towards Roy over Paul. Paul is averaging a double double at
> 21 and 10 asts. I would not leave him off the absolutely deserve it list..
> Davis has a great case too unless the GSW take a real dive in the standings
> as does stephen Jackson (except the coaches will never vote for him) ..
> Iverson is scoring 26 on his best FGP ( 46%) in many years and has 7 asts so
> I think he deserves it a lot more now than some of his Philly years.
>
>
>
> > Paul and Williams are his competition, imho. And if the team maintains
> > a lead over Utah in the division, the coaches will reward the team and
> > vote in Roy.
>
> Devon's team is going backwards... I think Roy might beat him out if there
> are enough spots. Seems like there are often injuries but it is a deep
> conference.
>
> Have to see how this month goes.
>
>
>
> > And if they don't? Well, let's just say it wouldn't surprise me in the
> > slightest. The NBA is pretty much a sham now anyway.
>
> He will get more hype in the junior game for being left off....
>
> --
> Laurel T
> "Superstar- A player who hears what he
> doesn't want to hear, sees what he doesn't
> want to see, and does what he doesn't want to do"
> -Unknown

The voice of reason.
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
> He's going to need the help in a crowded field. It's not going to
> come from votes, it's going to be voices that have to be heard.
> Yours.

I doubt I have the coach's ears...

>
> Nash
> Kobe
> Baron
> Paul
> D. Williams
> Roy
> Parker
> McGrady
> Ginobli
> Iverson
> Martin


>
> Tough competition.....They ALL Deserve spots too.....except maybe T
> Mac ......

Not Martin. Just scoring a lot on a bad team this year I doubt will get him
to the all-star game.

I expect Parker, Ivy, Nash, Paul as the reserves. Paul is the only guard
averaging over 20-10 and his team is winning, how can coach's not vote for
him and yet which of the other 3 do you leave out?
and of course Kobe and TMac are getting voted in.
TMac still deserves it but with luck will be injured again...in which case I
think Paul makes it over Davis.

You left out Jackson as deserving it... He is doing as much for your team as
Ginobli does for SA...


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Laurel T
"I told him,'Son, what is it with you. Is it ignorance or apathy?'
He said, 'Coach, I don't know and I don't care."
Frank Layden
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On Jan 5, 9:51 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
>
> How can you not include Baron Davis, Chris Paul, Roy and Iverson as
> deserving with Kobe and Nash. All of those guys are deserving. I
> agree with you on Martin and McGrady. Ginobli is also deserving as he
> carried his team when Duncan was out and when Parker was out. Parker
> is also deserving. THat's the thing a lot of guys deserve it and are
> playing all star caliber ball....
>
> Rizzo

I think Iverson isn't as deserving due to the # of times he's been
voted on. They probably won't vote Roy on, but they might want to
reward the team much like they did Utah last year with 3 players
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On Jan 5, 11:09 am, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
> > He's going to need the help in a crowded field. It's not going to
> > come from votes, it's going to be voices that have to be heard.
> > Yours.
>
> I doubt I have the coach's ears...
>
>
>
> > Nash
> > Kobe
> > Baron
> > Paul
> > D. Williams
> > Roy
> > Parker
> > McGrady
> > Ginobli
> > Iverson
> > Martin
>
> > Tough competition.....They ALL Deserve spots too.....except maybe T
> > Mac ......
>
> Not Martin. Just scoring a lot on a bad team this year I doubt will get him
> to the all-star game.
>
> I expect Parker, Ivy, Nash, Paul as the reserves. Paul is the only guard
> averaging over 20-10 and his team is winning, how can coach's not vote for
> him and yet which of the other 3 do you leave out?
> and of course Kobe and TMac are getting voted in.
> TMac still deserves it but with luck will be injured again...in which case I
> think Paul makes it over Davis.
>
> You left out Jackson as deserving it... He is doing as much for your team as
> Ginobli does for SA...
>
> --
> Laurel T
> "I told him,'Son, what is it with you. Is it ignorance or apathy?'
> He said, 'Coach, I don't know and I don't care."
> Frank Layden

Jackson won't make it because he's a Forward...too many forwards
too....
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On Jan 5, 11:28 am, Blazer Fan Dan <BlazerFan... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 9:51 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91... RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
>
>
>
> > How can you not include Baron Davis, Chris Paul, Roy and Iverson as
> > deserving with Kobe and Nash. All of those guys are deserving. I
> > agree with you on Martin and McGrady. Ginobli is also deserving as he
> > carried his team when Duncan was out and when Parker was out. Parker
> > is also deserving. THat's the thing a lot of guys deserve it and are
> > playing all star caliber ball....
>
> > Rizzo
>
> I think Iverson isn't as deserving due to the # of times he's been
> voted on. They probably won't vote Roy on, but they might want to
> reward the team much like they did Utah last year with 3 players

I don't think you can count it against Iverson (who I hate but
respect) just because he's been an all star a bunch of times....that's
not right....
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:09 am, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Jackson won't make it because he's a Forward...too many forwards
> too....

I thought he played some at sg? The coaches can use them at any position
they play IIRC.
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On Jan 5, 2:00 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Rizzo wrote:
> > On Jan 5, 11:09 am, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Jackson won't make it because he's a Forward...too many forwards
> > too....
>
> I thought he played some at sg? The coaches can use them at any position
> they play IIRC.

Oh yeah,, I forgot Boozer too. And you have to look at your own LMA
with where they are in the standings just as much as Jackson....

Rizzo
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Frank Rizzo wrote:
> On Jan 5, 2:00 pm, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Frank Rizzo wrote:
>>> On Jan 5, 11:09 am, "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jackson won't make it because he's a Forward...too many forwards
>>> too....
>>
>> I thought he played some at sg? The coaches can use them at any
>> position they play IIRC.
>
> Oh yeah,, I forgot Boozer too. And you have to look at your own LMA
> with where they are in the standings just as much as Jackson....

Too bad Jefferson is on a team with 4 wins...

LMA is on the ballot as a center and averages under 20 pts and 7 rbs.....
not all-star
stats for either position.
Centers will be Yao and Amare. With chandler likely left off and then Kaman
even on a bad team deserving a look.


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Laurel T
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roaches on bread - you drop some
on the floor and, boom, they're on it."
Kevin Garnett, on Miami's defense
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On Jan 4, 11:59 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> He's going to need the help in a crowded field. It's not going to
> come from votes, it's going to be voices that have to be heard.
> Yours.
>
> Nash
> Kobe
> Baron
> Paul
> D. Williams
> Roy
> Parker
> McGrady
> Ginobli
> Iverson
> Martin
>
> Tough competition.....They ALL Deserve spots too.....except maybe T
> Mac ......


Flock that anyway. I'd much rather see him be the finals MVP in
June. All-Star ain't work jack squat, except more wear and tear when
he needs some mid-season rest.
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Zeb Quinn wrote:
> On Jan 4, 11:59 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Flock that anyway. I'd much rather see him be the finals MVP in
> June. All-Star ain't work jack squat, except more wear and tear when
> he needs some mid-season rest.

More respect, more calls...
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On Jan 5, 12:10 pm, Frank Rizzo <champ91....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 5, 11:28 am, Blazer Fan Dan <BlazerFan....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 5, 9:51 am, Frank Rizzo <champ91....RemoveThis@yahoo.com>
>
> > > How can you not include Baron Davis, Chris Paul, Roy and Iverson as
> > > deserving with Kobe and Nash. All of those guys are deserving. I
> > > agree with you on Martin and McGrady. Ginobli is also deserving as he
> > > carried his team when Duncan was out and when Parker was out. Parker
> > > is also deserving. THat's the thing a lot of guys deserve it and are
> > > playing all star caliber ball....
>
> > > Rizzo
>
> > I think Iverson isn't as deserving due to the # of times he's been
> > voted on. They probably won't vote Roy on, but they might want to
> > reward the team much like they did Utah last year with 3 players
>
> I don't think you can count it against Iverson (who I hate but
> respect) just because he's been an all star a bunch of times....that's
> not right....

I'm not sure if they can justify it IF the Blazers lead the division,
or have kept up their pace, and have 0 representatives.
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