Trouble in Basketball Paradise Already

In article <1176415368.348829.169450.TakeThisOut@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"mollusk" <afn02703.TakeThisOut@afn.org> wrote:

> What would you rather have, a team with three 7-footers? We know how
> that turns out.

You mispelt "THREE SEVEN FOOTERS!"

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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:45:40 +0000, Donnie Barnes wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Apr, mollusk wrote:
>
>> I keep hearing that guard play wins NCAA championships, so doesn't it
>> make sense to have a team comprised solely of guards?
>>
>> What would you rather have, a team with three 7-footers? We know how
>> that turns out.
>
> Kentucky gets blue chip guards and they don't play *that* well and then
> leave after a year anyway. They get seven footers and they don't play that
> well and try to bolt to the NBA anyway. So now he's hoping to get some
> luck with forwards instead. :-)

<muse>

They do seem to hang a bit longer.

What about starting five forwards, two 3-spots and three 4s?

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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:02:48 -0700, mollusk wrote:

> On Apr 12, 5:01 pm, mimus <tinmimu... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read
>> that he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_,
>> two of whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
>>
>> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye
>> on for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now,
>> and that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
>>
>> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for
>> some recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!
>>
>> (A nice bulky JC center wouldn't hurt, either.)
>>
>> ((The tennis hard-court season had better get here soon, is all I can
>> say, or all I'll have left to do is chew on UK recruiting.))
>
> I keep hearing that guard play wins NCAA championships, so doesn't it
> make sense to have a team comprised solely of guards?
>
> What would you rather have, a team with three 7-footers? We know how
> that turns out.

One a late starter (Polish Basketball Syndrome) and the other taken out
for the year by our starting 2-guard in practice at the start of the
year, hardly three legit 5-spots (and the other one before that was
seriously physically underdeveloped-- Jenkins' Syndrome).

And then Morris, not the fastest and most agile of legit centers, went a
little mental on us a coupla times.

Nonetheless, I think the problem was _using_ them as much as them, for
example to set up 3s with the old inside pass and kickout (setting up 3s
has not been a UK forte of late).

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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:47:45 -0400, Geoffrey F. Green wrote:

> In article <1176415368.348829.169450.TakeThisOut@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> "mollusk" <afn02703.TakeThisOut@afn.org> wrote:
>
>> What would you rather have, a team with three 7-footers? We know how
>> that turns out.
>
> You mispelt "THREE SEVEN FOOTERS!"

See disclaimer.

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On Thu, 12 Apr, mollusk wrote:
> I keep hearing that guard play wins NCAA championships, so doesn't it
> make sense to have a team comprised solely of guards?
>
> What would you rather have, a team with three 7-footers? We know how
> that turns out.

Kentucky gets blue chip guards and they don't play *that* well and then
leave after a year anyway. They get seven footers and they don't play that
well and try to bolt to the NBA anyway. So now he's hoping to get some
luck with forwards instead. :-)


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"mimus" <tinmimus99 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in

> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read that
> he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_, two of
> whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
>
> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye on
> for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now, and
> that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
>
> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for some
> recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!
>
> (A nice bulky JC center wouldn't hurt, either.)
>
> ((The tennis hard-court season had better get here soon, is all I can say,
> or all I'll have left to do is chew on UK recruiting.))

The Force is weak. The Empire grows stronger.

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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:24:24 -0400, Edward M. Kennedy wrote:

> "mimus" <tinmimus99.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>
>> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read that
>> he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_, two of
>> whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
>>
>> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye on
>> for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now, and
>> that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
>>
>> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for some
>> recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!
>>
>> (A nice bulky JC center wouldn't hurt, either.)
>>
>> ((The tennis hard-court season had better get here soon, is all I can say,
>> or all I'll have left to do is chew on UK recruiting.))
>
> The Force is weak. The Empire grows stronger.

I'm facing two months of clay and and six weeks of grass tennis before we
finally get to the US hard-court season and I don't think I'm going to
make it.

I may sink to watching the NBA, although at least they're allowing zone
defenses now ("Go Tayshaun!"). . . .

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"mimus" <tinmimus99 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote

> >> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read that
> >> he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_, two of
> >> whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
> >>
> >> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye on
> >> for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now, and
> >> that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
> >>
> >> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for some
> >> recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!
> >>
> >> (A nice bulky JC center wouldn't hurt, either.)
> >>
> >> ((The tennis hard-court season had better get here soon, is all I can say,
> >> or all I'll have left to do is chew on UK recruiting.))
> >
> > The Force is weak. The Empire grows stronger.
>
> I'm facing two months of clay and and six weeks of grass tennis before we
> finally get to the US hard-court season and I don't think I'm going to
> make it.

Keep your gin up!

> I may sink to watching the NBA, although at least they're allowing zone
> defenses now ("Go Tayshaun!"). . . .

My liver took a wong turn in Albuquerque.

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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:38:58 -0400, mimus wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 10:24:24 -0400, Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
>
>> "mimus" <tinmimus99.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>
>>> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read that
>>> he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_, two of
>>> whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
>>>
>>> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye on
>>> for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now, and
>>> that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
>>>
>>> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for some
>>> recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!
>>>
>>> (A nice bulky JC center wouldn't hurt, either.)
>>>
>>> ((The tennis hard-court season had better get here soon, is all I can say,
>>> or all I'll have left to do is chew on UK recruiting.))
>>
>> The Force is weak. The Empire grows stronger.
>
> I'm facing two months of clay and and six weeks of grass tennis before we
> finally get to the US hard-court season and I don't think I'm going to
> make it.
>
> I may sink to watching the NBA, although at least they're allowing zone
> defenses now ("Go Tayshaun!"). . . .

Well . . . the US clay-courts aren't too bad (usually some kinda green or
blue stuff, seemingly a lot harder and faster than the European and Latin
American red stuff) . . . I'm enjoying Cha'leston and Jankovic's run there
(she's kicking Safina's butt in the final even as I type, after battling
Venus down to the wire in the semi) . . . .

And . . . <sigh> . . . _and_ I'll probably end up watching the French Open
on that horrible red stuff they play on, anyway, mumbling and cursing and
whining to myself the whole way . . . .

Like every year.

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On Apr 12, 4:01 pm, mimus <tinmimu... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read that
> he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_, two of
> whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
>
> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye on
> for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now, and
> that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
>
> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for some
> recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!

Maybe it's because I didn't grow up in the state I went to school, but
I've never understood the big deal about this. Get good players that
represent the school well, and that's great. If they happen to be
from Kansas, that's cool, but if the state doesn't have guys that are
good enough to play at the high D1 level, I'm not going to lose sleep
over having guys from California/Illinois/wherever else.

Tom
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On Apr 16, 2:12 am, mimus <tinmimu....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:51:10 -0700, Tom Adams wrote:
> > On Apr 12, 4:01 pm, mimus <tinmimu....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read
> >> that he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_,
> >> two of whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
>
> >> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye
> >> on for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now,
> >> and that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
>
> >> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for
> >> some recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!
>
> > Maybe it's because I didn't grow up in the state I went to school, but
> > I've never understood the big deal about this. Get good players that
> > represent the school well, and that's great. If they happen to be from
> > Kansas, that's cool, but if the state doesn't have guys that are good
> > enough to play at the high D1 level, I'm not going to lose sleep over
> > having guys from California/Illinois/wherever else.
>
> Kids who grow up and play basketball in Kentucky most often are devoted to
> the 'Cats and that should be encouraged as much as possible.
>
> Indeed, I'd like to see the NCAA adopt a rule that half (or even more) of
> your scholarships must go to in-state players, who played, if they played
> the sport at all, in school (_both_ elementary _and_ high) in your state.
>
> It would reely reely cut down on a _lot_ of the extracurricular
> shenanigans.
>
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When state schools don't want to place full importance on non-revenue
sports, they restrict some number of them to in-state residents. This
is seen as less competitive...
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:51:10 -0700, Tom Adams wrote:

> On Apr 12, 4:01 pm, mimus <tinmimu... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think I'm already a bit peeved at Gillispie, since I've just read
>> that he's offered UK scholarships to _three Texan high-school guards_,
>> two of whom at least are _sophomores_ . . . .
>>
>> I understand that these were undoubtedly players he already had his eye
>> on for A&M, and that he's using his UK leverage to go after 'em now,
>> and that he's looking to the not-too-distant future, but still--!
>>
>> Repeat after me: "We need _forward power_! and we also need room for
>> some recruits from _Kentucky_!" _Thank_ you!
>
> Maybe it's because I didn't grow up in the state I went to school, but
> I've never understood the big deal about this. Get good players that
> represent the school well, and that's great. If they happen to be from
> Kansas, that's cool, but if the state doesn't have guys that are good
> enough to play at the high D1 level, I'm not going to lose sleep over
> having guys from California/Illinois/wherever else.

Kids who grow up and play basketball in Kentucky most often are devoted to
the 'Cats and that should be encouraged as much as possible.

Indeed, I'd like to see the NCAA adopt a rule that half (or even more) of
your scholarships must go to in-state players, who played, if they played
the sport at all, in school (_both_ elementary _and_ high) in your state.

It would reely reely cut down on a _lot_ of the extracurricular
shenanigans.

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On Apr 16, 2:12 am, mimus <tinmimu... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Indeed, I'd like to see the NCAA adopt a rule that half (or even more) of
> your scholarships must go to in-state players, who played, if they played
> the sport at all, in school (_both_ elementary _and_ high) in your state.

That's a rule I definitely do NOT want to see. However, maybe it's
because I'm like Tom - I left my home state to go to college.
Furthermore, the team I root for (which is my home state's
university), would be at a severe disadvantage abiding by this rule.
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