Are the T-Wolves the Worst MN Pro Team Ever?

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:00:16 -0600, "Yathinkso"
<yathinkso RemoveThis @idontknow.net> wrote:

>I honestly can not recall a Minnesota pro sports team that had a worse year
>than our Taylor owned Twolves. This team is going to make history and due
>to funky NBA draft rules, we may not even end up with the top pick.

Maybe McHale can package the 4th and 31st picks together with Antoine
Walker and get Michael Olowokandi back from Boston.

They aren't totally incompetent or out of games entirely, they have a
good 4th quarter player coming back from injury, and somebody's
finally making it their first priority to teach some of these guys how
to handle NBA crunch time, so I'm sure they'll win more than one game
out of eight over the next few months. I'm still having fun, but lean
years don't bother me so much as bumping into the glass ceiling of the
Saunders-Garnett years did.

Gerald Green and Chris Richard actually got time in NBA games, Telfair
is hitting outside jump shots (sometimes), Corey Brewer is finding
ways to score in the NBA, and Wittman gave playing time last night
exclusively to young guys who are auditioning for next year's team,
and they're inching ever closer to the #4 overall pick (only 55 more
losses to clinch it). The trade deadline is months away so there's
still time to move along Greg Buckner, Antoine Walker, Ryan Gomes, or
others (packaged with a draft pick) and see what comes of that.

The magic # for a second division title is only 104... or is it too
early to start counting down?
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Rufus wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:00:16 -0600, "Yathinkso"
> <yathinkso.RemoveThis@idontknow.net> wrote:
>
>> I honestly can not recall a Minnesota pro sports team that had a worse year
>> than our Taylor owned Twolves. This team is going to make history and due
>> to funky NBA draft rules, we may not even end up with the top pick.
>
> Maybe McHale can package the 4th and 31st picks together with Antoine
> Walker and get Michael Olowokandi back from Boston.
>
> They aren't totally incompetent or out of games entirely, they have a
> good 4th quarter player coming back from injury, and somebody's
> finally making it their first priority to teach some of these guys how
> to handle NBA crunch time, so I'm sure they'll win more than one game
> out of eight over the next few months. I'm still having fun, but lean
> years don't bother me so much as bumping into the glass ceiling of the
> Saunders-Garnett years did.
>
> Gerald Green and Chris Richard actually got time in NBA games, Telfair
> is hitting outside jump shots (sometimes), Corey Brewer is finding
> ways to score in the NBA, and Wittman gave playing time last night
> exclusively to young guys who are auditioning for next year's team,
> and they're inching ever closer to the #4 overall pick (only 55 more
> losses to clinch it). The trade deadline is months away so there's
> still time to move along Greg Buckner, Antoine Walker, Ryan Gomes, or
> others (packaged with a draft pick) and see what comes of that.
>
> The magic # for a second division title is only 104... or is it too
> early to start counting down?
They are in most of their games, but for some reason the 2nd half and
more importantly the 4th quarter has been their downfall. A wise old
hockey coach once told me that one of the only times a coach can really
make a difference is during the later stages of a game. You play 2 plus
periods to a draw, then it is usually the coaching of the players during
the final few shifts that wins or loses the games for you. If that is
indeed the case, I think we all know how to judge Wittman. I wouldn't
be surprised if the wolves have lost half their games in the 4th
quarter. Some of the responsibility has to fall on Wittman. At this
point I would take Flip or Casey in a heartbeat.
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0600, Golfox <golfisfun DeleteThis @golfdom.com>
wrote:

>They are in most of their games, but for some reason the 2nd half and
>more importantly the 4th quarter has been their downfall. A wise old
>hockey coach once told me that one of the only times a coach can really
>make a difference is during the later stages of a game. You play 2 plus
>periods to a draw, then it is usually the coaching of the players during
>the final few shifts that wins or loses the games for you. If that is
>indeed the case, I think we all know how to judge Wittman. I wouldn't
>be surprised if the wolves have lost half their games in the 4th
>quarter. Some of the responsibility has to fall on Wittman. At this
>point I would take Flip or Casey in a heartbeat.

I'm sure you're right about coaching, others have pointed out that
teams turn up the intensity in the 4th quarter of an NBA game and the
Wolves can't keep up. I'm just not convinced that a different coach
is going to get vastly more out of a bunch of young guys who have very
little experience at this level, or were rotting in another screwed up
organization in Boston. Our veteran option at point guard isn't sure
which way his jersey goes on FFS.

Maybe somebody else would get them to progress faster, but somehow I
doubt that a mid-season replacement could do much but lower our draft
position. I can't imagine anybody any good is going to come out of
retirement to coach a team whose best option against a dominant center
is to have Mark Madsen jam his forehead into the small of the guy's
back for a couple quarters.
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Jim Peterson was talking tonight about the worst-team article. I knew
the guy was a hardcore homer, but this one took the cake.

"What people don't understand is that this is a young team. If they
had more experience, they'd have infinitly more wins than they have
right now. They'd have 5 or 6 more wins."

Okay ... first of all, Jimmy, this is about as stupid an argument as
one could make. It's essentisally the same as saying "If they weren't
so bad, they wouldn't be so bad." And secondly, when did "5 or 6"
become INFINITY?

Great win tonight, but Peterson still managed to make me shake my head
after it was over. He makes Trent Tucker look like Herb Carneal by
comparison.

Matt
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On Dec 22, 12:42 am, Matt <AcesWi....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim Peterson was talking tonight about the worst-team article. I knew
> the guy was a hardcore homer, but this one took the cake.
>
> "What people don't understand is that this is a young team. If they
> had more experience, they'd have infinitly more wins than they have
> right now. They'd have 5 or 6 more wins."
>
> Okay ... first of all, Jimmy, this is about as stupid an argument as
> one could make. It's essentisally the same as saying "If they weren't
> so bad, they wouldn't be so bad." And secondly, when did "5 or 6"
> become INFINITY?
>
> Great win tonight, but Peterson still managed to make me shake my head
> after it was over. He makes Trent Tucker look like Herb Carneal by
> comparison.
>

Good ol' J.Pete. He has been critical of the Wolves at
times on the air. Of course, for the money he makes, he
has to be a bit of a homer just to keep his job. Fortunately
he's no Sid Hartman.
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:42:41 -0800 (PST), Matt <AcesWired.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Jim Peterson was talking tonight about the worst-team article. I knew
>the guy was a hardcore homer, but this one took the cake.
>
>"What people don't understand is that this is a young team. If they
>had more experience, they'd have infinitly more wins than they have
>right now. They'd have 5 or 6 more wins."

That's kind of damning them with faint praise, to suggest that with
more experience they could be a 9-15 team instead of a 3-21 team.

>Okay ... first of all, Jimmy, this is about as stupid an argument as
>one could make. It's essentisally the same as saying "If they weren't
>so bad, they wouldn't be so bad." And secondly, when did "5 or 6"
>become INFINITY?

I guess it proves pro athletes didn't do their own math homework in
school.

>Great win tonight, but Peterson still managed to make me shake my head
>after it was over. He makes Trent Tucker look like Herb Carneal by
>comparison.

Well, being positive and liking the team have always been negatives
amongst Wolves fans on the internet. I'm not so wild about the Wolves
broadcast team, but I think we've heard far more irritating
broadcasters.

What gets to me is the guys, even in the national media who didn't
bother to educate themselves about one of the teams in a game they're
calling, and would treat the Wolves like the Washington Generals:
faceless incompetents just there to let the home team showcase their
abilities. If Jim Pete and Other Guy (seriously, he's been here since
like 1989, but I can't ever remember his name) start to treat opposing
teams like that and don't do their homework on the other team, then
I'll call them hardcore homers.
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Nah. The worst team will be the 2008 Twins.


;-)
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On Jan 4, 4:19 pm, "Likely_Story" <Tru_Dat DeleteThis @Fo_Sho.com> wrote:
> Nah. The worst team will be the 2008 Twins.
>
> ;-)

We should all just move to Omaha now -- I hear it's a warm
Minneapolis,
but lacks professional sports.
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