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RickyBobby

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:07 am
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Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City in
its place. Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
group. So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
fans or Oklahoma City fans.

It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not falling
either.

Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished. So either it is
worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really worth it.

Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility employing a
lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.

Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build it
they will come. So this is the same challenge in real life.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:38 pm
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"RickyBobby" <nascar42.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City in
> its place. Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
> group. So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
> fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>
> It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not
> falling either.
>
> Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
> they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished. So either it
> is worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really
> worth it.
>
> Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility employing
> a lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
> communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.
>
> Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build
> it they will come. So this is the same challenge in real life.

Wasn't Key Arena renovated in 1995? So, every 13 years you need to REbuild
it so that they will come? Your tax dollars hard at work...

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RickyBobby

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:38 pm
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"Kenzaburo" <jbresq.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "RickyBobby" <nascar42.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3S7ck.16580$3q7.5051@newsfe15.lga...
>> Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City in
>> its place. Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
>> group. So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
>> fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>>
>> It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not
>> falling either.
>>
>> Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
>> they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished. So either it
>> is worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really
>> worth it.
>>
>> Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility employing
>> a lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
>> communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.
>>
>> Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build
>> it they will come. So this is the same challenge in real life.
>
> Wasn't Key Arena renovated in 1995? So, every 13 years you need to REbuild
> it so that they will come? Your tax dollars hard at work...

Things have changed just a wee little bit since 1995. Now a competitive
arena has to have video and wireless and a lot of super luxury boxes and a
large shopping concourse and various other amenities.

I did not say that the taxpayers have to fund it. Let the ownership group
fund it if they think that the NBA is going to be a profitable deal over the
next few years.

All I want to say is that Seattle is a major league city with tons of money
and tons of sports fans who have supported the Sonics through thick and thin
for forty years.

The arena site and infrastructure are in place already.

The NBA has as muched as promised to give Seattle the Sonics back.

I would not be so bold as to spend 700 million dollars of somebody else's
money blithely.

Back to what I did say in my original post...

"If they build it they will come"

And if nobody cares to build it because it does not number out to build a
hugely expensive arena for 41 games per year than that is just how things
are.

41 games X 16000 fans/game X 100 dollars/ticket = $65.6 million per season.
But with luxury boxes costing a lot more leave us bump that up to $ 100
million per season just in attendance revenue. So it would seem to number
out nicely within a decade but apparently nobody wants to stand the up front
cost.

But of course if the taxpayers want to stand the up front cost you would
have a line of owner groups lined up to the Pacific.

A major league team from any sport is a luxury, not a necessity. I could
name a hundred cities that seem to be going along just swimmingly mired in
minor league status.
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MACK DADDY

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:57 pm
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On Jul 6, 11:07 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca... DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
> Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City in
> its place.  Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
> group.  So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
> fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>
> It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not falling
> either.
>
> Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
> they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished.  So either it is
> worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really worth it.
>
> Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility employing a
> lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
> communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.
>
> Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build it
> they will come.  So this is the same challenge in real life.

Wireless communitcations? Just to watch a basketball game? If people
wanna communicate wirelessly they can just jack off with their
muddafuggin blackberries!
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RickyBobby

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:22 pm
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"MACK DADDY" <pepsivanilla RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 11:07 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca... RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote:
> Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City in
> its place. Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
> group. So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
> fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>
> It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not
> falling
> either.
>
> Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
> they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished. So either it
> is
> worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really worth
> it.
>
> Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility employing
> a
> lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
> communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.
>
> Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build
> it
> they will come. So this is the same challenge in real life.

Wireless communitcations? Just to watch a basketball game? If people
wanna communicate wirelessly they can just jack off with their
muddafuggin blackberries!

The wireless thing has something to do with ordering a hot dog and a beer
from your seat and in a minute or so the concierge brings it to you. If
poor old run down decrepit Key Arena had that stuff Seattle would still have
an NBA team.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:44 pm
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On Jul 7, 6:57 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani... RemoveThis @msn.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 11:07 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca... RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City in
> > its place.  Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
> > group.  So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
> > fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>
> > It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not falling
> > either.
>
> > Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
> > they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished.  So either it is
> > worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really worth it.
>
> > Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility employing a
> > lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
> > communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.
>
> > Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build it
> > they will come.  So this is the same challenge in real life.
>
> Wireless communitcations?  Just to watch a basketball game?  If people
> wanna communicate wirelessly they can just jack off with their
> muddafuggin blackberries!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

SO, does the Ford Center in Oklahomo city have the thing where you
press a button for beer and a hot dog? Does a robot deliver it to
your seat and shove it in your mouth for you?
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RickyBobby

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:02 am
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"MACK DADDY" <pepsivanilla.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 6:57 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani....RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 11:07 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca....RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City
> > in
> > its place. Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
> > group. So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
> > fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>
> > It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not
> > falling
> > either.
>
> > Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
> > they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished. So either it
> > is
> > worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really worth
> > it.
>
> > Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility
> > employing a
> > lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
> > communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.
>
> > Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build
> > it
> > they will come. So this is the same challenge in real life.
>
> Wireless communitcations? Just to watch a basketball game? If people
> wanna communicate wirelessly they can just jack off with their
> muddafuggin blackberries!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

SO, does the Ford Center in Oklahomo city have the thing where you
press a button for beer and a hot dog? Does a robot deliver it to
your seat and shove it in your mouth for you?

That is not the point at all. Amenities include lots of things and wireless
is just one of many. Luxury boxes, video screens, and a spacious shopping
concourse are most likely way more important.

Somebody was telling me some story about an idea for a luxury hotel, or
maybe it was a hotel/casino that would be adjacent to an airport and the
swells could have the pilot taxi up to the hotel so they could deplane right
into the lobby. Now that would be cool.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:10 pm
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On Jul 16, 3:02 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca... DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
> "MACK DADDY" <pepsivani... DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8e14f74b-39ca-40d5-ae2a-066dad24ed71@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 7, 6:57 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani... DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 11:07 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca... DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City
> > > in
> > > its place. Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
> > > group. So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become Blazers
> > > fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>
> > > It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not
> > > falling
> > > either.
>
> > > Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena and
> > > they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished. So either it
> > > is
> > > worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really worth
> > > it.
>
> > > Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility
> > > employing a
> > > lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
> > > communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous..
>
> > > Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you build
> > > it
> > > they will come. So this is the same challenge in real life.
>
> > Wireless communitcations? Just to watch a basketball game? If people
> > wanna communicate wirelessly they can just jack off with their
> > muddafuggin blackberries!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> SO, does the Ford Center in Oklahomo city have the thing where you
> press a button for beer and a hot dog?  Does a robot deliver it to
> your seat and shove it in your mouth for you?
>
> That is not the point at all.  Amenities include lots of things and wireless
> is just one of  many.  Luxury boxes, video screens, and a spacious shopping
> concourse are most likely way more important.
>
> Somebody was telling me some story about an idea for a luxury hotel, or
> maybe it was a hotel/casino that would be adjacent to an airport and the
> swells could have the pilot taxi up to the hotel so they could deplane right
> into the lobby.  Now that would be cool.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The FAA would never approve such a plan. There's like laws or
something against having motels, houses, apartments, etc. on runways!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:53 am
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"MACK DADDY" <pepsivanilla.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 16, 3:02 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca....RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
> "MACK DADDY" <pepsivani....RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8e14f74b-39ca-40d5-ae2a-066dad24ed71@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 7, 6:57 pm, MACK DADDY <pepsivani....RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 11:07 am, "RickyBobby" <nasca....RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > Just tear down Key Arena and build one like they have in Oklahoma City
> > > in
> > > its place. Then the NBA will give a franchise to some local ownership
> > > group. So for two or three years the Sonics fans have to become
> > > Blazers
> > > fans or Oklahoma City fans.
>
> > > It is not the most pleasant situation to be sure, but the sky is not
> > > falling
> > > either.
>
> > > Seattle is guaranteed an NBA team if they build a plush modern arena
> > > and
> > > they already have a place to put it once Key is demolished. So either
> > > it
> > > is
> > > worth it to Seattle to build one more building or it is not really
> > > worth
> > > it.
>
> > > Consider it an opportunity to build a state of the art facility
> > > employing a
> > > lot of green technology and video screens all over and wireless
> > > communication systems and stuff that would make Oklahoma City jealous.
>
> > > Everyone is inspired by that "Field of Dreams" promise that if you
> > > build
> > > it
> > > they will come. So this is the same challenge in real life.
>
> > Wireless communitcations? Just to watch a basketball game? If people
> > wanna communicate wirelessly they can just jack off with their
> > muddafuggin blackberries!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> SO, does the Ford Center in Oklahomo city have the thing where you
> press a button for beer and a hot dog? Does a robot deliver it to
> your seat and shove it in your mouth for you?
>
> That is not the point at all. Amenities include lots of things and
> wireless
> is just one of many. Luxury boxes, video screens, and a spacious shopping
> concourse are most likely way more important.
>
> Somebody was telling me some story about an idea for a luxury hotel, or
> maybe it was a hotel/casino that would be adjacent to an airport and the
> swells could have the pilot taxi up to the hotel so they could deplane
> right
> into the lobby. Now that would be cool.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The FAA would never approve such a plan. There's like laws or
something against having motels, houses, apartments, etc. on runways!

There are not runways, you dolt, they are taxiways.
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