Who calls the shots?

"Dan Gaters" <dan.gaters.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> We know that Walshy had never seen Gallinari play before he drafted him.
>
> Now we also learn that neither has D':
>
> "Mike D'Antoni had not seen Danilo Gallinari, the Knicks' first-round
> draft
> pick, play in person until this weekend."
>
> Gallinari is the highest draft pick for the Knicks in recent memory but
> was
> selected without either the GM or the coach having actually seen him play.
> That's pretty astounding.
>
> Who, I ask, is the principal Knicks employee who has?
>
> DG
>
Come on Dan. It was well known and widely reported that Nilo had worked out
for the Knicks prior to the draft.
>
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Glenn Greenstein:

> It was well known and widely reported that Nilo had worked out
> for the Knicks prior to the draft.

Did you read what I wrote?

DG
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On Jul 14, 12:34 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat... RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> Glenn Greenstein:
>
> > It was well known and widely reported that Nilo had worked out
> > for the Knicks prior to the draft.
>
> Did you read what I wrote?
>
> DG

You wrote that prior to drafting Danilo neither Walsh or D'Antoni has
seen him live. Glenn and I, however, are under the assumption that the
Knicks held their predraft workouts prior to the draft... so they did
in fact see him live prior to the draft.

Now that we're up to speed you may respond with clarifications,
rebuttals, and insults should you wish to.
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On Jul 14, 7:34 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Capn'O:
>
> > Glenn and I, however, are under the assumption that the
> > Knicks held their predraft workouts prior to the draft... so they did
> > in fact see him live prior to the draft
>
> While the *facts* say that neither Walshy nor D' has ever seen Gallinari in
> person playing the game of basketball pre-draft. You may, as usual, continue
> to "assume."

I just saw him "live" on TV for a few minutes in a summer league game
while I was flipping channels. From what I saw, he sucks.
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Capn'O:

> Glenn and I, however, are under the assumption that the
> Knicks held their predraft workouts prior to the draft... so they did
> in fact see him live prior to the draft

While the *facts* say that neither Walshy nor D' has ever seen Gallinari in
person playing the game of basketball pre-draft. You may, as usual, continue
to "assume."

DG
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On Jul 14, 9:16 pm, Noah <dontsendmeyers....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 14, 7:34 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat....RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Capn'O:
>
> > > Glenn and I, however, are under the assumption that the
> > > Knicks held their predraft workouts prior to the draft... so they did
> > > in fact see him live prior to the draft
>
> > While the *facts* say that neither Walshy nor D' has ever seen Gallinari in
> > person playing the game of basketball pre-draft. You may, as usual, continue
> > to "assume."
>
> I just saw him "live" on TV for a few minutes in a summer league game
> while I was flipping channels. From what I saw, he sucks.


But it's only summer league...
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Noah:

> From what I saw, he sucks.

You're simply bitter about the fact that Isiah Lord Thomas III got a trip to
Italy to see him in person and you didn't.

DG
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On Jul 15, 8:23 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack... RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

> I wonder how much the Spurs saw Tony
> Parker play before he joined the team or the Mavs saw Dirk.

Or the Pistons saw Darko Milicic.
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"Noah" <dontsendmeyerspam DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 7:34 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat... DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
> Capn'O:
>
> > Glenn and I, however, are under the assumption that the
> > Knicks held their predraft workouts prior to the draft... so they did
> > in fact see him live prior to the draft
>
> While the *facts* say that neither Walshy nor D' has ever seen Gallinari
> in
> person playing the game of basketball pre-draft. You may, as usual,
> continue
> to "assume."

I just saw him "live" on TV for a few minutes in a summer league game
while I was flipping channels. From what I saw, he sucks.

He was really bad in the first half, but I think it was nerves since he was
on fire at the end of the third and 4th. All his points came in about 10
minutes.
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On Jul 15, 3:29 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The most prominent draft pick in nearly two decades

Oh come on, we've had a couple of other lottery picks this decade that
we didn't trade away. How could you forget players like Fred Weis,
Channing Frye and Michael Sweetney?

What's that you say? Oh, who are they again? Never mind.
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Glenn Greenstein:

> So watching him work out in a private session does not count for seeing him
> play?

OK, for the last time, watching a VIDEO of Grand Canyon is not the same as
experiencing it IN PERSON.

The most prominent draft pick in nearly two decades was decided upon without
either the GM or the coach ever seeing him in action, live, in person. The
only one who did that and then recommended him was your friend Isiah Lord
Thomas III.

If you can't grok the significance of this, I give up.

DG
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On Jul 15, 11:45 am, Noah <dontsendmeyers....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 8:23 am, "Glenn Greenstein" <glen.jack....RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> > I wonder how much the Spurs saw Tony
> > Parker play before he joined the team or the Mavs saw Dirk.
>
> Or the Pistons saw Darko Milicic.

Or (to provide a middle ground) the Kings saw Hedo...
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On Jul 15, 3:29 pm, Dan Gaters <dan.gat....DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Glenn Greenstein:
>
> > So watching him work out in a private session does not count for seeing him
> > play?
>
> OK, for the last time, watching a VIDEO of Grand Canyon is not the same as
> experiencing it IN PERSON.

But they did see him IN PERSON in a PRE-DRAFT WORK OUT where they
INTERVIEWED HIM and RAN HIM THROUGH DRILLS. Both Walsh and D'Antoni
commented on his ability and character BEFORE THE DRAFT in the ARTICLE
I referenced.

I would think it's pretty typical for scouts to be the main people
with "in game" knowledge of the players... since that's specifically
what scouts do.
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