This is the challenge awaiting Nate in Portland

Terraholm wrote:
> Charles Beauchamp wrote:
>> 1. Zack Randolph is the best player on the team. He blew up his knee
>
> It was a bone bruise not a blown out knee.
>
>
>> and had a surgery that far as I can remember no one has ever returned
>> from at 100% pre-injury effectiveness.
>
> Not like he is a high flyer anyway...
>
>>
>> 2. Darius Miles is a complete jerk and head case. Obvious coach
>> killer.
>
> They can give nate a 2X4?
>
>>
>> 3. Sebastian Telfair is a young athletic point guard fresh out of
>> high school. Guys #1 and 2 above...don't like him.
> This is a bad thing.
>
> Where did that come from?
>
>>
>> 4. Derek Anderson may be the worst shooting shooting guard in the
>> NBA. His best contribution the past two years has been missing
>> games.
>
> And one OT game against the kings....With a little luck they waive
> him...
>>
>> 5. Shareef Abdur Rahim is the kind of guy that you should be building
>> a team around. He is a free agent.
>
> He is too old to build a team around. Besides which...how have the
> teams built around him done so far?
>
> So how about Outlaw, patterson, Theo Ratliff. Joel Pryzbilla,
> Khyrapa, Ha and the rookies Webster, Jack, and Monia. Surely you can
> find more sour grapes in there?
>
>
>>
>> 6. The Blazers salary level is just stupid for being such a bad team.
>
> Might want to peep it and what they are doing there. If they waive
> NVE and trade patterson for an ending contract they should be able to
> drop under the cap next summer to resign Joel.
>
>>
>> Nate said he just wasn't excited about being with Seattle anymore.
>> Well...he just took over a basket case of a team. I guess he will
>> find out how exciting it is to lose 60 games next season.
>
> Perhaps..perhaps they will not be as bad as you predict.... If you
> are right he can cry on his way to the bank.


Which after Oregon Income Taxes should put him right around where he would
have been in Seattle. This isn't sour grapes. Just pointing out that he
left a potential title contender for the draft lottery.
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Charles Beauchamp wrote:
> Terraholm wrote:
>> Charles Beauchamp wrote:
>>> 1. Zack Randolph is the best player on the team. He blew up his
>>> knee
>>
>> It was a bone bruise not a blown out knee.
>>
>>
>>> and had a surgery that far as I can remember no one has ever
>>> returned from at 100% pre-injury effectiveness.
>>
>> Not like he is a high flyer anyway...
>>
>>>
>>> 2. Darius Miles is a complete jerk and head case. Obvious coach
>>> killer.
>>
>> They can give nate a 2X4?
>>
>>>
>>> 3. Sebastian Telfair is a young athletic point guard fresh out of
>>> high school. Guys #1 and 2 above...don't like him.
>> This is a bad thing.
>>
>> Where did that come from?

Can you answer that? That he does not get along with Zach and Miles?

>>
>> So how about Outlaw, patterson, Theo Ratliff. Joel Pryzbilla,
>> Khyrapa, Ha and the rookies Webster, Jack, and Monia. Surely you can
>> find more sour grapes in there?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 6. The Blazers salary level is just stupid for being such a bad
>>> team.
>>
>> Might want to peep it and what they are doing there. If they waive
>> NVE and trade patterson for an ending contract they should be able to
>> drop under the cap next summer to resign Joel.
>>
>>>
>>> Nate said he just wasn't excited about being with Seattle anymore.
>>> Well...he just took over a basket case of a team. I guess he will
>>> find out how exciting it is to lose 60 games next season.
>>
>> Perhaps..perhaps they will not be as bad as you predict.... If you
>> are right he can cry on his way to the bank.
>
>
> Which after Oregon Income Taxes should put him right around where he
> would have been in Seattle.

Nope. I answered that elsewhere.

>This isn't sour grapes. Just pointing
> out that he left a potential title contender for the draft lottery.

I think the sonics will be short of a true contender but you are certainly
right in the basic idea. Perhaps he did not figure the sonics would acheive
above expectations or live up to the new ones. He knows he is going to a
rebuilding team that may take awhile to get to the playoffs, just perhaps he
can overacheive with them too, because I think they are not as bad or as far
from making the playoffs as you are making out....


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Terraholm wrote:
> Charles Beauchamp wrote:
>
>>Terraholm wrote:
>>
>>>Charles Beauchamp wrote:

<snipping entertaining debate between Laurel and Beau>

>>out that he left a potential title contender for the draft lottery.
>
>
> I think the sonics will be short of a true contender but you are certainly
> right in the basic idea. Perhaps he did not figure the sonics would acheive
> above expectations or live up to the new ones.

I agree here. I don't think the Sonics will be a true title contender,
and they may very well have taken a half-step back even had McMillan
returned. Not only will the Sonics likely lose at least one contributor
to free agency (Radmanovic, James, and Daniels are all possibilities or
probabilities), but they got career years out of a bunch of guys last
season and some unreal chemistry. I think they'll need to re-adjust a
little this off-season before really hitting their stride and hopefully
being true contenders for several seasons after this next year.

And really, getting a new coach and a new voice in might not be a bad
thing for that process.

>
He knows he is going to a
> rebuilding team that may take awhile to get to the playoffs, just perhaps he
> can overacheive with them too, because I think they are not as bad or as far
> from making the playoffs as you are making out....

I'll definitely be paying even closer attention to the Blazers next
year, that's for sure. Even beyond the Nate and Martell angle, I love
watching the development of talented young players, and the Blazers
definitely have a few there. And I really like watching Zach Randolph
play - on the offensive end, anyway.

Cheers,
Chris Hafner
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Chris Hafner wrote:
> Terraholm wrote:
>> Charles Beauchamp wrote:
>>
>>> Terraholm wrote:
>>>
>>>> Charles Beauchamp wrote:
>
> <snipping entertaining debate between Laurel and Beau>
>
>>> out that he left a potential title contender for the draft lottery.
>>
>>
>> I think the sonics will be short of a true contender but you are
>> certainly right in the basic idea. Perhaps he did not figure the
>> sonics would acheive above expectations or live up to the new ones.
>
> I agree here. I don't think the Sonics will be a true title contender,
> and they may very well have taken a half-step back even had McMillan
> returned. Not only will the Sonics likely lose at least one
> contributor to free agency (Radmanovic, James, and Daniels are all
> possibilities or probabilities), but they got career years out of a
> bunch of guys last season and some unreal chemistry. I think they'll
> need to re-adjust a little this off-season before really hitting
> their stride and hopefully being true contenders for several seasons
> after this next year.
> And really, getting a new coach and a new voice in might not be a bad
> thing for that process.
>
>>
> He knows he is going to a
>> rebuilding team that may take awhile to get to the playoffs, just
>> perhaps he can overacheive with them too, because I think they are
>> not as bad or as far from making the playoffs as you are making
>> out....
>
> I'll definitely be paying even closer attention to the Blazers next
> year, that's for sure. Even beyond the Nate and Martell angle, I love
> watching the development of talented young players, and the Blazers
> definitely have a few there. And I really like watching Zach Randolph
> play - on the offensive end, anyway.

That's good, cause that is the only end he plays on....


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