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"David Misner" <miracleman2.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> BobInBoulder wrote:
>> How good this team will be when AI can distribute the ball to JR Smith
>> and Melo instead of crazy Earl. Boykins is certainly getting his looks,
>> but for the most part, is still shooting abysmal. (16-42, or 38%, over
>> the past 2 games, yet media folks are fricken gushing over him for some
>> reason)
>
>
> Well the Nuggets won their game against the Celtics
>
> Your friend Boykins scored 28 points and shot 8-19

That is the problem here. 8 of 19 is good by Boykins' standards, but not by
NBA standards. It is only 42%. Whoopdeedoo! And he was 4 out of 5 from
3-point range, very unusual for Earl, but that left him a terrible 4 out of
14 on two-pointers! No doubt many of them horrible shots, which he
continues to take.
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BobInBoulder wrote:
> "David Misner" <miracleman2 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> BobInBoulder wrote:
>>> How good this team will be when AI can distribute the ball to JR Smith
>>> and Melo instead of crazy Earl. Boykins is certainly getting his looks,
>>> but for the most part, is still shooting abysmal. (16-42, or 38%, over
>>> the past 2 games, yet media folks are fricken gushing over him for some
>>> reason)
>>
>> Well the Nuggets won their game against the Celtics
>>
>> Your friend Boykins scored 28 points and shot 8-19
>
> That is the problem here. 8 of 19 is good by Boykins' standards, but not by
> NBA standards. It is only 42%. Whoopdeedoo! And he was 4 out of 5 from
> 3-point range, very unusual for Earl, but that left him a terrible 4 out of
> 14 on two-pointers! No doubt many of them horrible shots, which he
> continues to take.


true it is a Whoopdeedoo. but if he continues to contribute like that
than the Nuggets should have no problem. If I was the coach I would be
satisfied with those kinda of #s
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 14:29:41 -0700, "BobInBoulder"
<binb.RemoveThis@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:

>How good this team will be when AI can distribute the ball to JR Smith and
>Melo instead of crazy Earl. Boykins is certainly getting his looks, but for
>the most part, is still shooting abysmal. (16-42, or 38%, over the past 2
>games, yet media folks are fricken gushing over him for some reason)

It's a lot of fun when the first half (and pretty much the game) ends
with a 6' tall guy dishing the ball to a short guy for a layup and a
foul.
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:07:17 -0700, David Misner
<miracleman2.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I am surprised nobody posted about the Nuggets win. Do people only post
>win bad stuff happens???

There were many years when this newsgroup had a handful of posts. Now
there are almost as many posts this year than there are in a typical
day in the Avalanche group.

It takes time for interested fans with something to finally talk about
to get around to a newsgroup.
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:22:11 -0700, "BobInBoulder"
<binb RemoveThis @noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:

>That is the problem here. 8 of 19 is good by Boykins' standards, but not by
>NBA standards. It is only 42%. Whoopdeedoo! And he was 4 out of 5 from
>3-point range, very unusual for Earl, but that left him a terrible 4 out of
>14 on two-pointers! No doubt many of them horrible shots, which he
>continues to take.

One would expect anybody his size to be horrible at 2 pointers. Too
many trees in the forest.
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"Howard Brazee" <howard.TakeThisOut@brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:22:11 -0700, "BobInBoulder"
> <binb.TakeThisOut@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>
>>That is the problem here. 8 of 19 is good by Boykins' standards, but not
>>by
>>NBA standards. It is only 42%. Whoopdeedoo! And he was 4 out of 5 from
>>3-point range, very unusual for Earl, but that left him a terrible 4 out
>>of
>>14 on two-pointers! No doubt many of them horrible shots, which he
>>continues to take.
>
> One would expect anybody his size to be horrible at 2 pointers. Too
> many trees in the forest.

I wouldn't argue against that point at all. The problem is the little weed
keeps shooting!
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:34:33 -0700, David Misner
<miracleman2.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> That is the problem here. 8 of 19 is good by Boykins' standards, but not by
>> NBA standards. It is only 42%. Whoopdeedoo! And he was 4 out of 5 from
>> 3-point range, very unusual for Earl, but that left him a terrible 4 out of
>> 14 on two-pointers! No doubt many of them horrible shots, which he
>> continues to take.
>
>
>true it is a Whoopdeedoo. but if he continues to contribute like that
>than the Nuggets should have no problem. If I was the coach I would be
>satisfied with those kinda of #s

Boykins was very useful last year - when the coach needed the tempo
raised, he could insert him - paying the cost on defense.

But when the standard game has Iverson, his strengths aren't as
strong, and his weaknesses are magnified.
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:34:33 -0700, David Misner
> <miracleman2 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> That is the problem here. 8 of 19 is good by Boykins' standards, but not by
>>> NBA standards. It is only 42%. Whoopdeedoo! And he was 4 out of 5 from
>>> 3-point range, very unusual for Earl, but that left him a terrible 4 out of
>>> 14 on two-pointers! No doubt many of them horrible shots, which he
>>> continues to take.
>>
>> true it is a Whoopdeedoo. but if he continues to contribute like that
>> than the Nuggets should have no problem. If I was the coach I would be
>> satisfied with those kinda of #s
>
> Boykins was very useful last year - when the coach needed the tempo
> raised, he could insert him - paying the cost on defense.
>
> But when the standard game has Iverson, his strengths aren't as
> strong, and his weaknesses are magnified.


What are his weaknesses??


I am no big fan of Boykins but if the Nuggets win then what is the
problem???
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"David Misner" <miracleman2 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Howard Brazee wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:34:33 -0700, David Misner
>> <miracleman2 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> That is the problem here. 8 of 19 is good by Boykins' standards, but
>>>> not by NBA standards. It is only 42%. Whoopdeedoo! And he was 4 out
>>>> of 5 from 3-point range, very unusual for Earl, but that left him a
>>>> terrible 4 out of 14 on two-pointers! No doubt many of them horrible
>>>> shots, which he continues to take.
>>>
>>> true it is a Whoopdeedoo. but if he continues to contribute like that
>>> than the Nuggets should have no problem. If I was the coach I would be
>>> satisfied with those kinda of #s
>>
>> Boykins was very useful last year - when the coach needed the tempo
>> raised, he could insert him - paying the cost on defense. But when the
>> standard game has Iverson, his strengths aren't as
>> strong, and his weaknesses are magnified.
>
>
> What are his weaknesses??

Mostly his propensity to take horrible shots, usually resulting an awful
shooting percentage, dribble away the shot clock, and take his teammates out
of the game, and the fact that he is a liability on defense because of his
size. Other than that he is great. Seriously, his only strength is that he
can push the ball up the floor and pick up the pace of the game.
Unfortunately he often negates this by taking horrible shots and not
distributing the ball to teammates in scoring position. And like Howard
mentioned, with AI playing point instead of Miller, the Nuggets aren't in
much need of someone who can come in a pick up the pace now. If they could
somehow trade Earl for a backup point who is a better shooter and defender,
the team would be even stronger.

>
>
> I am no big fan of Boykins but if the Nuggets win then what is the
> problem???
>

The Nugs are 2-0 without Earl this year. They managed to beat a poor Celtic
team without their best player (Pierce) at home with Boykins playing a major
role. No big deal. They also lost to a poor Sacramento team at home with
Boykins playing a major role. My main point here is that when the big guns
come back, along with AI, the Nuggets will be a MUCH better team if Earl
plays a very minor role coming off of the bench. His 10 to 15 missed shots
per game would be better served going to the likes of AI, Melo and JR.
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:42:22 -0700, David Misner
<miracleman2.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> But when the standard game has Iverson, his strengths aren't as
>> strong, and his weaknesses are magnified.
>
>
>What are his weaknesses??

Primarily defense. He's not the league's leading shot blocker, for
instance.

>I am no big fan of Boykins but if the Nuggets win then what is the
>problem???

Always try to get better. Boykins was very useful when we had
basically a half-court point guard and wanted to run a running
offense. He could speed up the game. When JR comes back, we will
have a better outside shooter. When Carmelo comes back, we will
have lots of offense. We need to balance that with defense - so if
we could find someone who needed to upgrade their tempo and had some
extra defense, we should consider a trade.

But Boykins is entertaining - and this is entertainment.
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:42:22 -0700, David Misner
> <miracleman2 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> But when the standard game has Iverson, his strengths aren't as
>>> strong, and his weaknesses are magnified.
>>
>> What are his weaknesses??
>
> Primarily defense. He's not the league's leading shot blocker, for
> instance.
>
>> I am no big fan of Boykins but if the Nuggets win then what is the
>> problem???
>
> Always try to get better. Boykins was very useful when we had
> basically a half-court point guard and wanted to run a running
> offense. He could speed up the game. When JR comes back, we will
> have a better outside shooter. When Carmelo comes back, we will
> have lots of offense. We need to balance that with defense - so if
> we could find someone who needed to upgrade their tempo and had some
> extra defense, we should consider a trade.
>
> But Boykins is entertaining - and this is entertainment.


I guess it is. Nuggets won again and Boykins had a decent game shooting
just above 50% with 24 points. I hate to say this but again if I am the
coach I have to be happy with that. I would hate to trade Boykins and
end up with somebody worse or even if he is better how long could the
Nuggets hope to keep him. Iverson also had an ok game with 44 points.
Still any doubt as to weather or not Iverson will fit in? But my
question is what will happen when Camby comes back or Carmelo?
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