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Since: Aug 27, 2007 Posts: 1945
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:39 am
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:66vqq6F2m9hc8U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:66vmdfF2lnapfU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Do not be silly. Of course they care. No one not competitive by
>>>> nature even makes this league.
>>>
>>> That's naive.
>>
>> Name the players and teams that enjoy losing...
>>
>>> If you think teams do not often play like they do not
>>> care, then you have lost the plot. Teams play like they do not care
>>> all of the time... and suddenly they start playing with heart and
>>> you can see the change. Then there are those teams that are playing
>>> amazingly and then become too finesse and start losing important
>>> games as they get bored with their style of play.
>>
>> Intensity like momentum and confidence is a fragile thing.
>> Does not mean they do not 'care'...
>
> When you see half assed attempts, then you know the words "do not
> care" are not far behind. Next time, watch the game.
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Since: Oct 29, 2007 Posts: 28
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:30 pm
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"Don't Taze Me, Bro!" wrote:
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> As a Mavs fan I have to say that so far I am convinced they do not deserve
> to be in the playoffs.
If you play Eddie Jones and Juwan Howard together for almost 4 minutes you
don't deserve to keep your designation as NBA franchise.
> This team has the physical capability but they have not had heart all year.
> They have gotten better with Jason Kidd, but I am convinced that he has
> walked into a lockerroom full of players who could care less!
You have to feel for Dirk playing with Kidd and 10 gutless/heartless
wonders.
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the first and second amendments? Could we get his opinion on the
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Since: May 07, 2006 Posts: 363
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:38 pm
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On Apr 20, 6:33�pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis... DeleteThis @Earth71.net>
wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:67291fF2lkbltU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > That was not the point you snipped.....
>
> You are not making any points. All you are saying is that technically every
> team cares.
>
> >> So you admit you were being semantical. We agree.
>
> > A little irony impaired are ya?
>
> Your desperate spin has been amusing.
>
> *PLONK*
Translation: I've had my ass handed to me in this argument despite my
selective quoting to change the opponent's intent, refusing to address
the central issue, and turning to insults when cornered.
Hey, bro, it's okay to admit you were wrong. Especially since you
were. Just sayin' is all... >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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Since: May 07, 2006 Posts: 363
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:41 pm
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On Apr 20, 6:47�pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis... DeleteThis @Earth71.net>
wrote:
> <icemelt... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4afa86a2-5c4a-4dca-94d3-bde056c9a2f2@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 20, 6:33?pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis... DeleteThis @Earth71.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:67291fF2lkbltU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > > That was not the point you snipped.....
>
> > You are not making any points. All you are saying is that technically
> > every
> > team cares.
>
> > >> So you admit you were being semantical. We agree.
>
> > > A little irony impaired are ya?
>
> > Your desperate spin has been amusing.
>
> > *PLONK*
> >Translation: I've had my ass handed to me in this argument despite my
> >selective quoting to change the opponent's intent, refusing to address
> >the central issue, and turning to insults when cornered.
>
> Translation: Said person did not have a central point. I challenge
> (CHALLENGE) you to copy and paste their central point from the above
> conversations. They tried to articulate that all teams care to a point...
> playing a semantical game that is only that of what trolls do.
>
> I will help you out and post their initial point for you to view "Do not be
> silly. Of course they care. No one not competitive by nature even makes this
> league."
>
> Everyone has disagreed with said person but you
Everyone?
>(suspiciously).
Ah, a conspiracy theorist.
>Must be the
> same person, or friend, or family member.
LOL Yeah, must be.
Look, your participation in this thread, like the one about Kobe,
illustrates your lack of ability to carry on a reasoned and
intelligent discussion or to admit you're wrong. And, in this thread,
like the one about Kobe, I disagree with you. It's as simple as that.
Icemelter
"We can't go on together
With suspicious minds
And we can't build our dreams
On suspicious minds" - Elvis Presley (although someone else probably
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Since: Apr 11, 2008 Posts: 57
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:33 pm
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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Certainly not true of Dirk who wanted that game a lot.
There is always the one guy who really wants it. However, the drive to win
is not with every team. This Mavericks team should have in no way finished
in the position they finished and should not be playing with as little drive
as they are playing with. This is the second year they have started the
playoffs against a young team with what looks to be very little desire.
This is just as much of a talented team that made it with-in inches of
winning it all.
>
>
>> Indeed, the Mavs have one now in
>> Magliore.
>
> Mags actually worked his butt off, literally and figuratively last year in
> Portland.
>
>
> --
> Laurel T
> The invention of basketball was not an
> accident. It was developed to meet a
> need. Those boys simply would not play
> "Drop the Handkerchief"
> James Naismith
>
>
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> >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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Since: Aug 27, 2007 Posts: 1945
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:33 pm
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:671ncvF2m20heU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Certainly not true of Dirk who wanted that game a lot.
>
> There is always the one guy who really wants it. However, the drive
> to win is not with every team. This Mavericks team should have in no
> way finished in the position they finished and should not be playing
> with as little drive as they are playing with. This is the second
> year they have started the playoffs against a young team with what
> looks to be very little desire.
> This is just as much of a talented team that made it with-in inches of
> winning it all.
As I said before Intensity and confidence are fragile things...still does
not mean the 'do not care'...
If you want to wallow in that thought about your team go ahead...
--
Laurel T
"Superstar- A player who hears what he
doesn't want to hear, sees what he doesn't
want to see, and does what he doesn't want to do"
-Unknown >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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Since: Apr 11, 2008 Posts: 57
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:52 pm
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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:671tfdF2mqgcoU1@mid.individual.net...
> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:671ncvF2m20heU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Certainly not true of Dirk who wanted that game a lot.
>>
>> There is always the one guy who really wants it. However, the drive
>> to win is not with every team. This Mavericks team should have in no
>> way finished in the position they finished and should not be playing
>> with as little drive as they are playing with. This is the second
>> year they have started the playoffs against a young team with what
>> looks to be very little desire.
>> This is just as much of a talented team that made it with-in inches of
>> winning it all.
>
>
> As I said before Intensity and confidence are fragile things...still does
> not mean the 'do not care'...
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Since: Aug 27, 2007 Posts: 1945
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:52 pm
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:671tfdF2mqgcoU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:671ncvF2m20heU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Certainly not true of Dirk who wanted that game a lot.
>>>
>>> There is always the one guy who really wants it. However, the drive
>>> to win is not with every team. This Mavericks team should have in no
>>> way finished in the position they finished and should not be playing
>>> with as little drive as they are playing with. This is the second
>>> year they have started the playoffs against a young team with what
>>> looks to be very little desire.
>>> This is just as much of a talented team that made it with-in inches
>>> of winning it all.
>>
>>
>> As I said before Intensity and confidence are fragile things...still
>> does not mean they 'do not care'...
>
> Sounds like you are getting semantical to save face...
Sounds like you wish to ignore again the perfectly good point.
Thinking they do not care only hurts you. =)
--
Laurel T
I am quite like my terriers. A thick hide, a stubborn
loyal temperament, friendly most of the time to all,
but very capable against most varmints
and a real bitch when pushed..... >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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Since: Apr 11, 2008 Posts: 57
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:43 am
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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds like you wish to ignore again the perfectly good point.
>
Your self congragulatory attitude and semantical dance is silly at best.
Facts are, some teams "don't care." If you wan't to say " oh, but they do
care, they just care on different levels..." then you are just wasting room
in this conversations.
> Thinking they do not care only hurts you. =)
read above! >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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Since: Aug 27, 2007 Posts: 1945
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:43 am
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:67278nFn4e2lU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:67207uF2l88kuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Sounds like you wish to ignore again the perfectly good point.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your self congragulatory attitude and semantical dance is silly at
>>> best.
>>
>> Snipping the legit point instead of answering it and trying a
>> personal attack does not make it go away either.
>
> Your suggestion is that every team cares... That's semantical.
That was not the point you snipped.....
>
>
>> any one that read Kobe's mind while in a colorado hotel room should
>> not be doubted. ;-)
>
> I went off of Kobe's words that he could understand how the young
> girl could think it was rape.
As opposed to Kobe words in the same statement writen by laywers not kobe
that said he thought and still thinks it was consensual... and that the DA
had to throw out the case....
At the start of that thread you just flat declared he was a rapist as fact.
Like you were there...
>>> If you wan't to say " oh, but they do
>>> care, they just care on different levels... then you are just
>>> wasting room in this conversations.
>>
>>
>> Sure..."They wanted it more" has never been uttered in regards to
>> basketball...
>
>
> So you admit you were being semantical. We agree.
A little irony impaired are ya?
>Another waste of
> usenet you have become.
Just contributing to it's very nice anarchy...
--
Laurel T
It's what you learn after you know it all
that's important.
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Since: Apr 11, 2008 Posts: 57
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:33 am
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"Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAMNOT.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That was not the point you snipped.....
You are not making any points. All you are saying is that technically every
team cares.
>> So you admit you were being semantical. We agree.
>
> A little irony impaired are ya?
Your desperate spin has been amusing.
*PLONK* >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:47 am
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<icemelter2.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 20, 6:33?pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis....DeleteThis@Earth71.net>
wrote:
> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:67291fF2lkbltU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > That was not the point you snipped.....
>
> You are not making any points. All you are saying is that technically
> every
> team cares.
>
> >> So you admit you were being semantical. We agree.
>
> > A little irony impaired are ya?
>
> Your desperate spin has been amusing.
>
> *PLONK*
>Translation: I've had my ass handed to me in this argument despite my
>selective quoting to change the opponent's intent, refusing to address
>the central issue, and turning to insults when cornered.
Translation: Said person did not have a central point. I challenge
(CHALLENGE) you to copy and paste their central point from the above
conversations. They tried to articulate that all teams care to a point...
playing a semantical game that is only that of what trolls do.
I will help you out and post their initial point for you to view "Do not be
silly. Of course they care. No one not competitive by nature even makes this
league."
Everyone has disagreed with said person but you (suspiciously). Must be the
same person, or friend, or family member. >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:17 am
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icemelter2.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 20, 6:33�pm, "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <No2Exis....TakeThisOut@Earth71.net>
> wrote:
>> "Terraholm" <TerraholmSPAM....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:67291fF2lkbltU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> That was not the point you snipped.....
>> You are not making any points. All you are saying is that technically every
>> team cares.
>>
>>>> So you admit you were being semantical. We agree.
>>> A little irony impaired are ya?
>> Your desperate spin has been amusing.
>>
>> *PLONK*
>
> Translation: I've had my ass handed to me in this argument despite my
> selective quoting to change the opponent's intent, refusing to address
> the central issue, and turning to insults when cornered.
The "central issue," as implied by Laurel, is a logical fallacy.
-JC >> Stay informed about: Mavs not deserving of playoffs? |
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:35 am
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"Avant Grape" <avantnograpecrap RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> The "central issue," as implied by Laurel, is a logical fallacy.
>
> -JC
Indeed, and it could probablly be any number of fallacies; from 'base rate'
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:36 am
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