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D. Gerasimatos

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:40 pm
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In article <1XMPj.2775$I55.856@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
Avant Grape <avantnograpecrap RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>I think Dirk's stats we be used more effectively if he was playing 2nd
>fiddle. He's really not a 1st tier superstar.


Dude was MVP last year.


Dimitri

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:48 pm
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"Avant Grape" <avantnograpecrap.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> That's not going to make them any better. As long as Dirk is the leader,
> they will always be soft.
>
> -JC


Cant you find toughness elsehwere? Does it have to come from one player at
one specific position?

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:49 pm
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"Dynasty Reborn" <Calijd.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Apr 22, 11:16 pm, d....DeleteThis@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (D. Gerasimatos)
wrote:
> In article <bKzPj.106$506...@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
> Avant Grape <avantnograpec....DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >That's not going to make them any better. As long as Dirk is the
> >leader, they will always be soft.
>
> Pau is also soft and I like the Lakers chances. So maybe Dirk needs to be
> on a team with a guy like Charles Oakley.
>
> Dimitri

>Pau happens to play with this guy...you may have heard his name once
>before....ummm, Kobe Bean Bryant. Yeah, pretty big difference between
>playing alongside Kobe and playing next to Josh Howard.

Which is exactly why Dirk does not necessarily have to be this tough street
type player. He is talented. He just needs some other talent around him.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:05 pm
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"Avant Grape" <avantnograpecrap.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I think Dirk's stats we be used more effectively if he was playing 2nd
> fiddle. He's really not a 1st tier superstar.
>
> -JC


I have to really disagree with that. Dirk is a finesse player, no doubt.
However, just because he does not thug it up does not mean he is not a 1st
teir superstar. It's all about building around a franchise player.

I have always said that Dallas's biggest problem was getting rid of strong
hearted players like Raja Bell to make up for the rough-it tough-it that
Dirk lacks. Tim Duncan, Dirk, Gasol, are not players with big attitudes, but
if you supply them with the right players, then they make a solid team.
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:15 am
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D. Gerasimatos wrote:
> In article <1XMPj.2775$I55.856@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>,
> Avant Grape <avantnograpecrap.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I think Dirk's stats we be used more effectively if he was playing 2nd
>> fiddle. He's really not a 1st tier superstar.
>
>
> Dude was MVP last year.



....and promptly refused to use his size advantage against the Warriors,
losing Dallas the series.

Besides, not many think Dirk deserved that MVP. If that not a sign what
a joke that award is now, I don't know what is. Did Alex English win a
MVP award? Puhlease!

-JC
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:17 am
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Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "Avant Grape" <avantnograpecrap RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:1XMPj.2775
>> I think Dirk's stats we be used more effectively if he was playing 2nd
>> fiddle. He's really not a 1st tier superstar.
>>
>> -JC
>
>
> I have to really disagree with that. Dirk is a finesse player, no doubt.
> However, just because he does not thug it up does not mean he is not a 1st
> teir superstar. It's all about building around a franchise player.
>
> I have always said that Dallas's biggest problem was getting rid of strong
> hearted players like Raja Bell to make up for the rough-it tough-it that
> Dirk lacks. Tim Duncan, Dirk, Gasol, are not players with big attitudes, but
> if you supply them with the right players, then they make a solid team.
>
>



Well, I don't believe either Gasol or Dirk are first tier superstars.
Duncan on the other hand is in a whole different class. He makes his
teammates better and more importantly, he brings it on D every night.
He's the cornerstone of San Antonio's success and he won with several
different casts of players.

-JC
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