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Austin Healy

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:03 pm
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In article <mailman.5.1209582209.27837.asbntr-
post_lists.trick.ca.RemoveThis@lists.trick.ca>, dk.RemoveThis@trick.ca says...

> 194 regular season games and 23 playoff games in 4 NBA seasons.

My question wasn't, "what's his record?", it was, "what's he WON?"

You know, as in titles? Championships? That kinda thing.

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"Lansdellicious" Chris La

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:03 pm
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Austin Healy wrote:
> In article <mailman.5.1209582209.27837.asbntr-
> post_lists.trick.ca DeleteThis @lists.trick.ca>, dk DeleteThis @trick.ca says...
>
>> 194 regular season games and 23 playoff games in 4 NBA seasons.
>
> My question wasn't, "what's his record?", it was, "what's he WON?"
>
> You know, as in titles? Championships? That kinda thing.

So it's your opinion that, each year, there is only one good coach?


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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:03 pm
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In article <67sc1kF2q4adpU2 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
lansdellicious DeleteThis @gmail.com says...

> So it's your opinion that, each year, there is only one good coach?

Ha ha! I just knew somebody was gonna say that. My opinion is that a
coach's credentials are built over time, and a few playoff series
victories and the odd championship go a long way on a resume.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:16 pm
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Austin Healy wrote:
> In article <67scltF2ojcjhU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
> lansdellicious.TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...
>
>> And how good is Miami going to be next
>> year with a lottery pick, Wade, Marion and Haslem?
>
> Depends on whether the lottery pick is a stud or a stiff. A bad lottery
> pick will get you a quick exit from the playoffs, as we've just seen.

Actually, the quick exit can be laid squarely at the doors of Bosh,
Ford, Bosh, Mitchell, Bosh and Bosh.

Some of it may be Delfino, and we can't overlook Bosh. Also, Bosh.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:16 pm
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In article <67si38F2qj0akU2.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
lansdellicious.RemoveThis@gmail.com says...

Hyuk! I would take one Bosh over a boatload of Bargnanis.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:37 am
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Austin Healy wrote:
> In article <67si38F2qj0akU2.RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
> lansdellicious.RemoveThis@gmail.com says...
>
> Hyuk! I would take one Bosh over a boatload of Bargnanis.

Tell me: who is the "leader" of this team? Who should be scoring the
important buckets? When the team is settling for jumpers or floundering
offensively, who should be demanding the ball and trying to draw the
foul on a drive to the rim? Who should be pumping up team-mates and the
crowd?

What, of these things, has Bosh done this year at all, let alone in the
playoffs?

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:22 am
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On Apr 30, 7:16 pm, Austin Healy <r....TakeThisOut@dope.yu> wrote:
> In article <67sc1kF2q4ad....TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
> lansdellici....TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...
>
> > So it's your opinion that, each year, there is only one good coach?
>
> Ha ha! I just knew somebody was gonna say that. My opinion is that a
> coach's credentials are built over time, and a few playoff series
> victories and the odd championship go a long way on a resume.

So you don't think Mike D'Antoni has credentials? A team that has
made the playoffs every year in the Western Conference with a +.600
winning percentage?

No wonder you don't like Bargnani.. you're a hard man to please.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:27 am
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On May 1, 5:07 am, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
<lansdellici....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Austin Healy wrote:
> > In article <67si38F2qj0a....RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
> > lansdellici....RemoveThis@gmail.com says...
>
> > Hyuk! I would take one Bosh over a boatload of Bargnanis.
>
> Tell me: who is the "leader" of this team? Who should be scoring the
> important buckets? When the team is settling for jumpers or floundering
> offensively, who should be demanding the ball and trying to draw the
> foul on a drive to the rim? Who should be pumping up team-mates and the
> crowd?
>
> What, of these things, has Bosh done this year at all, let alone in the
> playoffs?
>
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Who is the leader of the San Antonio Spurs?
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:43 am
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In article <d36f1a79-ae1a-4c59-bfb4-10eca4fc3758
@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, ebrian RemoveThis @gmail.com says...

> So you don't think Mike D'Antoni has credentials?

I never said that, I just said, "what's he won?" I actually like
D'antoni. Doesn't matter anyway, we are not changing coaches.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:47 am
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"EM" <samc243.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jack_mccallum/04/30/suns...ntonio/
>
> Even though BC has confirmed that Sam is returning next season is
> there any possibility for BC to change his mind?
> Mind you, the raptors only won 14 of their last 36 games since the
> allstar game (including playoffs)

I don't want him. He's considered to be pretty weak when it comes to
defence, and that's the Raptor's worst attribute already.

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:55 am
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In article <67tfelF2q3t8tU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
lansdellicious.TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...

> What, of these things, has Bosh done this year at all, let alone in the
> playoffs?

I would say he has done them all. I will give you credit for taking an
unpopular position, but you're questioning Bosh's effort and the only
way I can respond to that is I don't agree. The effort is there. He's
not getting much help.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:19 am
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On May 1, 10:55 am, Austin Healy <r....RemoveThis@dope.yu> wrote:
> In article <67tfelF2q3t8....RemoveThis@mid.individual.net>,
> lansdellici....RemoveThis@gmail.com says...
>
> > What, of these things, has Bosh done this year at all, let alone in the
> > playoffs?
>
> I would say he has done them all. I will give you credit for taking an
> unpopular position, but you're questioning Bosh's effort and the only
> way I can respond to that is I don't agree. The effort is there. He's
> not getting much help.

What I find frustrating, and this might be a little off-topic, is I
don't think people realize how much we're overachieving, both this
year and last. People say Sam Mitchell has got to go -- I think these
people just want to see us win and don't really understand why we're
not. These same people will find someone else to blame when we get a
new coach and still have the same result. Or they'll say it wasn't
the right coach, etc.

Check it out in terms of overachievers.. (a) for Raptors, (b) for
Orlando (c) for Detroit.

1. Who is a superstar player?
(a) Chris Bosh
(b) Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis
(c) None.

2. Who on our team would start on a contending team (ie a team like
Lakers, Pistons, Spurs, Hornets)?
(a) Bosh
(b) Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis, Hedo Turkoglu
(c) Billups, Wallace, Prince, Hamilton

3. Who is the go-to guy?
(a) Apparently, no one.
(b) Turkoglu, Nelson, Howard
(c) Anyone
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:19 am
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On May 1, 10:43 am, Austin Healy <r....DeleteThis@dope.yu> wrote:
> In article <d36f1a79-ae1a-4c59-bfb4-10eca4fc3758
> @e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, ebr....DeleteThis@gmail.com says...
>
> > So you don't think Mike D'Antoni has credentials?
>
> I never said that, I just said, "what's he won?" I actually like
> D'antoni. Doesn't matter anyway, we are not changing coaches.

We're not changing coaches "at this time".
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:27 pm
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ebrian wrote:
> On May 1, 5:07 am, "\"Lansdellicious\" Chris Lansdell"
> <lansdellici....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Austin Healy wrote:
>>> In article <67si38F2qj0a....TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
>>> lansdellici....TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...
>>> Hyuk! I would take one Bosh over a boatload of Bargnanis.
>> Tell me: who is the "leader" of this team? Who should be scoring the
>> important buckets? When the team is settling for jumpers or floundering
>> offensively, who should be demanding the ball and trying to draw the
>> foul on a drive to the rim? Who should be pumping up team-mates and the
>> crowd?
>>
>> What, of these things, has Bosh done this year at all, let alone in the
>> playoffs?
>>
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> Who is the leader of the San Antonio Spurs?

They have 3: Parker, Duncan and Manu. They are lucky enough to have 3
players who can drag the team by the scruff of the neck. Bosh has, on
numerous occasions in the last two seasons, FAILED miserably to do any
of the things he needs to do. ebrian, you know that I was on this wagon
last summer, and I'm still on it.

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(Msg. 30) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:28 pm
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Onion Knight wrote:
> "EM" <samc243 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jack_mccallum/04/30/suns...ntonio/
>>
>> Even though BC has confirmed that Sam is returning next season is
>> there any possibility for BC to change his mind?
>> Mind you, the raptors only won 14 of their last 36 games since the
>> allstar game (including playoffs)
>
> I don't want him. He's considered to be pretty weak when it comes to
> defence, and that's the Raptor's worst attribute already.
>

He also has no clue how to use a bench, which is our strength.

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