Admiration for Shaq...

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> > > > > On Jun 25, 6:50?pm, "Ego" <d....RemoveThis@d.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > did he make this up impromptu?
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> > > > > > that's awsome... he's very talented!!!
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> > > > > Like Kobe needs any more inspiration to win another ring..but on
> > > > > behalf of all Laker fans..Thanks Shaq!
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> > > > > He needs a lot more than inspiration. ?Most players have that
> > > > > already.
> > > > > ?He
> > > > > could start with a better team.
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> > > > One player away..and for damn sure it isn't Shaq. Maybe that one
> > > > player is Bynum. Lakers this season with a 4 dedicated to collecting
> > > > offensive boards win the championship...I just don't see Gasol or
> > > > Odom
> > > > filling that role but I also don't think the lakers will have the
> > > > exact same roster next season.
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> > > > lol ... "one player away".... lots of teams say that. ?If they have
> > > > the
> > > > same
> > > > roster next year they're going to be in trouble. ?They need to get
> > > > something
> > > > resembling a defense and between bad coaching and poor defensively
> > > > skilled
> > > > players, they didn't have anything of the sort. ?No defense = no
> > > > more
> > > > rings
> > > > for Kobe.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > The Lakers defense was adequate enough this season, just not very
> > > consistant. It's all about the rebounds and especially on the
> > > offensive end. Find me a team that has won a championship in the past
> > > 20-30 years that didn't have a well above average 4 in regards to
> > > collecting O. rebounds...
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> > > Lakers defense was in the bottom half. ?It was woeful. ?It really
> > > showed
> > > how
> > > bad it was in game 6. ?Or is that a repressed memory? ?I'm not saying
> > > you
> > > don't have a rebounding problem also. ?Seems like you have a lot of
> > > holes
> > > to
> > > fill. ?Funny how those were the exact holes (along with many others)
> > > that
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> > I said the Lakers defense was adequate..that doesn't mean top 15..it
> > means they were good enough when it mattered.
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> > That is indeed what you said. ?It just isn't accurate - at all.- Hide
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> From this I am to take that your belief is if the Lakers were a better
> defensive team they would have won the championship.
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> Well that would be a rather silly conclusion, huh? ?I simply disagreed the
> Lakers D was "good enough". ?It sucked. ?Plain and simple. ?They were a
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> defensive during the season - before and after Gasol, and during the
> playoffs. ?Those are just the facts.- Hide quoted text -
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I'm beginning to lose faith in C-Trolls. Ok, plain and simple you
state the Lakers defense "sucked". Lakers beat Celtics
twice..gasp..how did that happen?

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So your decision making path has lead to you conclude that my point was a
bad defensive team should go 0-82 for the season? Wow. Too much smog in
LA. The point, which you continue to skirt over hoping it will just go
away, is that the Laker defense sucked. They don't have many good defensive
players (marginally Fisher and at times Kobe) and they don't play team
defense. But this isn't just my opinion, it's fact - just look at how they
performed all season long and throughout the playoffs = BOTTOM HALF in
each. That's not "adequate". It's woeful.

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On Jun 28, 4:19 pm, Gary Collard <d....DeleteThis@ddd.com> wrote:
> mr. gone wrote:
> > On Jun 27, 8:51 am, theBZA <dewey3kNOS....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> durr....DeleteThis@innocence.com (Bryant Durrell) wrote innews:0oydnVJsN9sMwfnVnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@supernews.com:
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> >>> In article <Xns9AC9C10967012dewey3kNOSPAMgmai....DeleteThis@130.133.1.4>,
> >>> theBZA <dewey3kNOS....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> durr....DeleteThis@innocence.com (Bryant Durrell) wrote in
> >>>>news:EsydnY3p9dEcZ_7VnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@supernews.com:
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> >>>>> <58f1b332-f7b4-46ec-843a-3d79497db....DeleteThis@i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>> <lakerswin2....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> smeltics said that for 20+ years and then they changed it to "three
> >>>>>> players away" and imported three mercenaries to buy a title.
> >>>>> Bitter!
> >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sports.basketball.nba.boston-
> >> celtics
> >>>> /msg/06db3e20938ccb46?dmode=source
> >>> /Really/ bitter!
> >> You can me all the names you want. Doesn't change the fact that you
> >> surrendered your principles the very second they became inconvenient.
> >> It's sad that of all the Celtics fans who posted in asbnll or in the
> >> cross-posted threads, you were really the only one who seemed to have
> >> something to offer and now all you can do is call names and run like
> >> hell from your own beliefs. That's pathetic.
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> > except the analogy *doesn't work*. the lakers got payton and malone,
> > two former all-stars still playing at a high level, for peanuts.
> > garnett, pierce and allen are all getting paid handsomely to lead the
> > celtics and were all acquired via trade. there are no mercenaries on
> > the celtics' roster, no matter how some might try to make it out - the
> > great players all got paid a great deal and all led the team.
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> Errr, the mercenaries would be the ones paid a lot, not a little. Payton
> and Malone were anti-mercenaries, taking less than value to try to win.
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but not with the denigrating standards your fellow laker fans were
trying to apply. malone and payton were hired guns who tried to hang
on for less money to get that ring. your bozo friends are trying to
say that garnett and allen - who were *traded for* and *getting full
price* - were somehow doing the same thing.

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> Gary Collard
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> "A wheelchair? Seriously? ... We’ve dinged our knee up harder on
> our computer desk." -- The Big Lead on Paul Pierce

another example of laker fan un-knowledge.