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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:49 am
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http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030811/NEWS/...080027/
San Antonio Spurs
On paper, the defending NBA champions appear to have upgraded their
roster with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, Hedo
Turkoglu, Robert Horry and Anthony Carter. If coach Gregg Popovich and
guard Tony Parker can make up over the courting of Jason Kidd, they
should be favored to repeat.
Dallas Mavericks
While all the other top teams in the West were improving, Dallas got
left out. The Mavs tried to get Alonzo Mourning and believed they had
a deal, only to have Mourning change his mind. Still trying to acquire
some size and toughness.
Minnesota Timberwolves
Many are already crediting them with the best set of offseason moves,
acquiring Latrell Sprewell in a trade with New York and Sam Cassell in
a deal with Milwaukee and signing free agents Michael Olowokandi, Fred
Hoiberg and Mark Madsen.
PACIFIC DIVISION
Sacramento Kings
Stumbled into the Brad Miller deal after planning to have a quiet
offseason, giving up two bench players off a deep roster for an
All-Star center (albeit an Eastern Conference one) who will eventually
take over for Vlade Divac. Remaining business includes deciding
whether to keep restricted free agent Jim Jackson.
Los Angeles Lakers
It began as such a promising offseason with the signings of Karl
Malone and Gary Payton, but the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case has
put everything on hold indefinitely. The Lakers still have a lack of
depth at all positions except for point guard.
Portland Trail Blazers
Lost their best playmaker, Scottie Pippen, as a free agent, and
endured yet another arrest as guard Damon Stoudamire was caught trying
to take a bag of marijuana wrapped in tin foil through an airport
medal detector. Will be without a true center unless Arvydas Sabonis
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:22 pm
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"Goldfinger" <goldfgh.RemoveThis@telus.net> wrote in message
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> > San Antonio Spurs
> >
> > On paper, the defending NBA champions appear to have upgraded their
> > roster with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, Hedo
> > Turkoglu, Robert Horry and Anthony Carter. If coach Gregg Popovich and
> > guard Tony Parker can make up over the courting of Jason Kidd, they
> > should be favored to repeat.
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> This time next year, Nesterovic will be regarded as the most overrated
> acquisition of the season. Haven't the GMs seen enought stiff white big
men
> who couldn't jump already?
Yeah I tell you. One look at that Dirk guy up there Dallas should've told
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:51 pm
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>Sacramento Kings
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> Stumbled into the Brad Miller deal after planning to have a quiet
>offseason, giving up two bench players off a deep roster for an
>All-Star center (albeit an Eastern Conference one) who will eventually
>take over for Vlade Divac. Remaining business includes deciding
>whether to keep restricted free agent Jim Jackson.
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> Los Angeles Lakers
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> It began as such a promising offseason with the signings of Karl
> Malone and Gary Payton, but the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case has
> put everything on hold indefinitely. The Lakers still have a lack of
> depth at all positions except for point guard.
>
I didn't think much of this little analysis. The article fails to mention
the Kings losing some of their depth. Also, IMHO, if the Kings are trying to
decide "whether to keep" Jim Jackson, then they may be in worse financial
condition than we know.
How can a team have a lack of depth at all but one position? Wouldn't that
mean a team does not have a full 12 man roster? In addition to point guard,
the Lakers have depth at small forward, and even at power forward, all on
paper of course. As far as Kobe is concerned, actually at this point,
nothing is on hold.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:51 pm
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greg brown wrote:
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>>Sacramento Kings
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>>Stumbled into the Brad Miller deal after planning to have a quiet
>>offseason, giving up two bench players off a deep roster for an
>>All-Star center (albeit an Eastern Conference one) who will eventually
>>take over for Vlade Divac. Remaining business includes deciding
>>whether to keep restricted free agent Jim Jackson.
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>>Los Angeles Lakers
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>>It began as such a promising offseason with the signings of Karl
>>Malone and Gary Payton, but the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case has
>>put everything on hold indefinitely. The Lakers still have a lack of
>>depth at all positions except for point guard.
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> I didn't think much of this little analysis. The article fails to mention
> the Kings losing some of their depth. Also, IMHO, if the Kings are trying to
> decide "whether to keep" Jim Jackson, then they may be in worse financial
> condition than we know.
If they keep Jim Jackson, they really haven't lost depth at all. Hedo
rarely played anyway, Clark is replaced by Brad Miller, and Pollard was
injured all season and rarely played either. Resigning Jackson is an
imporant thing though. If they don't, then we have Gerald Wallace coming
off the bench... oh boy.
>
> How can a team have a lack of depth at all but one position? Wouldn't that
> mean a team does not have a full 12 man roster? In addition to point guard,
> the Lakers have depth at small forward, and even at power forward, all on
> paper of course. As far as Kobe is concerned, actually at this point,
> nothing is on hold.
>
I think he means lack of QUALITY talent coming off the bench... I'd say
they do have that at small forward, not point guard though. Derek
Fisher? Kind of old at the PF postion. They don't really need depth at
SG and C though. How long is Kobe going to rest... honestly.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:51 pm
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"Eric" <gokings.RemoveThis@volcano.net> wrote in message
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> I think he means lack of QUALITY talent coming off the bench... I'd
say
> they do have that at small forward, not point guard though. Derek
> Fisher? Kind of old at the PF postion. They don't really need depth at
> SG and C though. How long is Kobe going to rest... honestly.
Five years maybe?
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> Eric
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:21 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:21 pm
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"Araxen" <araxen.RemoveThis@removethistoreply.insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> >Damon Stoudamire was caught trying
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> That one still makes me laugh my ass off!
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Next trick, wearing that tin foil hat to ward off microwave.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 5:48 pm
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"Goldfinger" <goldfgh.RemoveThis@telus.net> wrote in message
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> "TenKMan" <Fred.RemoveThis@Fred.com> wrote in message
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> > > I think he means lack of QUALITY talent coming off the bench...
I'd
> > say
> > > they do have that at small forward, not point guard though. Derek
> > > Fisher? Kind of old at the PF postion. They don't really need
depth at
> > > SG and C though. How long is Kobe going to rest... honestly.
> >
> > Five years maybe?
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> I'm afraid it will be longer, much longer than that. Check out the
recent
> chat transcript on espn.com, one lawyer said if Kobe were to be
convicted,
> it would be for mandatory life sentence becasue of a recent law change
in
> Colorado. Even if Kobe were to be granted parole, it would be for an
> extremely long sentence like 15-20 years. Let's see, what good would
a 39
> years old Kobe do for the Lakers?
Tyson had a lot more years on his conviction but he served much less.
It is called superstar justice, if he is even convicted.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:02 pm
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:51:42 GMT, "Goldfinger" <goldfgh RemoveThis @telus.net>
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>http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030811/NEWS/308080027/1006/SPORTS
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>> San Antonio Spurs
>>
>> On paper, the defending NBA champions appear to have upgraded their
>> roster with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, Hedo
>> Turkoglu, Robert Horry and Anthony Carter. If coach Gregg Popovich and
>> guard Tony Parker can make up over the courting of Jason Kidd, they
>> should be favored to repeat.
>
>This time next year, Nesterovic will be regarded as the most overrated
>acquisition of the season. Haven't the GMs seen enought stiff white big men
>who couldn't jump already?
>
The game is changing. Guys like Ilgauskas, Nowitski, Divac, and Peja
are showing that big white guys can be effective in the NBA.
Rasho is expected to get 12 points and 8 rebounds. Anything more than
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:08 pm
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Not against The Lakers,Kings,Suns,and Timberwolves!!!
Marcus Kwan wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:51:42 GMT, "Goldfinger" <goldfgh.TakeThisOut@telus.net>
> wrote:
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>>"s_knight8" <s_knight8.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030811/NEWS/308080027/1006/SPORTS
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>>>San Antonio Spurs
>>>
>>>On paper, the defending NBA champions appear to have upgraded their
>>>roster with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, Hedo
>>>Turkoglu, Robert Horry and Anthony Carter. If coach Gregg Popovich and
>>>guard Tony Parker can make up over the courting of Jason Kidd, they
>>>should be favored to repeat.
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>>This time next year, Nesterovic will be regarded as the most overrated
>>acquisition of the season. Haven't the GMs seen enought stiff white big men
>>who couldn't jump already?
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> The game is changing. Guys like Ilgauskas, Nowitski, Divac, and Peja
> are showing that big white guys can be effective in the NBA.
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> Rasho is expected to get 12 points and 8 rebounds. Anything more than
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:29 pm
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:08:54 GMT, JWC <cook47 DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
>Not against The Lakers,Kings,Suns,and Timberwolves!!!
>
So, you think that Rasho will not be able to average 12 and 8 against
these four teams?
>Marcus Kwan wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:51:42 GMT, "Goldfinger" <goldfgh DeleteThis @telus.net>
>> wrote:
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>>>"s_knight8" <s_knight8 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030811/NEWS/308080027/1006/SPORTS
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>>>>San Antonio Spurs
>>>>
>>>>On paper, the defending NBA champions appear to have upgraded their
>>>>roster with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, Hedo
>>>>Turkoglu, Robert Horry and Anthony Carter. If coach Gregg Popovich and
>>>>guard Tony Parker can make up over the courting of Jason Kidd, they
>>>>should be favored to repeat.
>>>
>>>This time next year, Nesterovic will be regarded as the most overrated
>>>acquisition of the season. Haven't the GMs seen enought stiff white big men
>>>who couldn't jump already?
>>>
>>
>>
>> The game is changing. Guys like Ilgauskas, Nowitski, Divac, and Peja
>> are showing that big white guys can be effective in the NBA.
>>
>> Rasho is expected to get 12 points and 8 rebounds. Anything more than
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:48 pm
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YES!!!
Marcus Kwan wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:08:54 GMT, JWC <cook47 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>Not against The Lakers,Kings,Suns,and Timberwolves!!!
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> So, you think that Rasho will not be able to average 12 and 8 against
> these four teams?
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>>Marcus Kwan wrote:
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>>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:51:42 GMT, "Goldfinger" <goldfgh RemoveThis @telus.net>
>>>wrote:
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>>>>"s_knight8" <s_knight8 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>San Antonio Spurs
>>>>>
>>>>>On paper, the defending NBA champions appear to have upgraded their
>>>>>roster with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, Hedo
>>>>>Turkoglu, Robert Horry and Anthony Carter. If coach Gregg Popovich and
>>>>>guard Tony Parker can make up over the courting of Jason Kidd, they
>>>>>should be favored to repeat.
>>>>
>>>>This time next year, Nesterovic will be regarded as the most overrated
>>>>acquisition of the season. Haven't the GMs seen enought stiff white big men
>>>>who couldn't jump already?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The game is changing. Guys like Ilgauskas, Nowitski, Divac, and Peja
>>>are showing that big white guys can be effective in the NBA.
>>>
>>>Rasho is expected to get 12 points and 8 rebounds. Anything more than
>>>that next year is gravy.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 8:29 pm
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:04:23 GMT, Marcus Kwan <mnospamkwan1.RemoveThis@gte.net> wrote in
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>On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:48:36 GMT, JWC <cook47.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>YES!!!
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>Lakers, maybe, depending on whether Shaq guards him, or doubles
>Duncan(or guards DUncan). Wolves, Kings, and Suns, I don't see them
>as having very strong, defensive oriented centers.
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>I would bet that Rasho's average aginst those four teams is not lower
>than his averages for the season.
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02-03 Nesterovich
Opp Pts Reb
LAK 12.8 6.0
PHX 12.8 6.5
SAC 12.3 10.0
OTHER 10.9 6.4
Maybe Kandi will be able to slow him down :-)
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:26 pm
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:38:36 GMT, "Goldfinger" <goldfgh DeleteThis @telus.net>
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>> 02-03 Nesterovich
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>> Opp Pts Reb
>> LAK 12.8 6.0
>> PHX 12.8 6.5
>> SAC 12.3 10.0
>> OTHER 10.9 6.4
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>Since when is a 12 pt 8 board center regarded as superstar? Divac can well
>accomplish that with just a few flops. This guy has Shaw Bradly written all
>over his forehead.
>
Who is calling him a superstar?
All the Spurs want out of him is the ability to be a competent
starter. If they got a guy at Divac's level, they would be very
pleased. Bradley hasn't been a 12 and 8 guy is a while.
You aren't one of those guys who thinks you have to have a superstar
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2003 9:26 pm
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In article <p22gjv0sej8nopmmt0ns5ae5fjepu58v9b.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Marcus Kwan
<mnospamkwan1.TakeThisOut@gte.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:38:36 GMT, "Goldfinger" <goldfgh.TakeThisOut@telus.net>
> wrote:
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> >"igor eduardo küpfer" <strudel.TakeThisOut@example.com> wrote in message
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> >> 02-03 Nesterovich
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> >> Opp Pts Reb
> >> LAK 12.8 6.0
> >> PHX 12.8 6.5
> >> SAC 12.3 10.0
> >> OTHER 10.9 6.4
> >
> >Since when is a 12 pt 8 board center regarded as superstar? Divac can
> >well
> >accomplish that with just a few flops. This guy has Shaw Bradly written
> >all
> >over his forehead.
> >
>
> Who is calling him a superstar?
>
> All the Spurs want out of him is the ability to be a competent
> starter. If they got a guy at Divac's level, they would be very
> pleased. Bradley hasn't been a 12 and 8 guy is a while.
>
Malik Rose can get 12/8, so why don't they just jack his salary to what
they pay Nesterovich? Then they could have used the mid-level exception
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