paucity of hoop news from wolves

It is getting pretty frustrating seeing our team's lack of movement. I
realize that something could be brewing behind-the-scenes, but I'm very
skeptical about McHale and Company's ability to improve this team.
Has anyone heard any rumors lately about this team?
They can't possibly think that this current roster is built correctly.
Any thoughts?

Ramon
levi wrote:
> Andy H wrote:
> > I makes you wonder when you visit hoopshype.com and there is no news
> > from the Wolves, or other sites as well, but there seems to be a
> > constant stream from Portland, Indiana, and of all places the Wizards?
> > Hmmmmm.
>
> Umm, what is there to report? That McHale doesn't take calls
> when he's fishing/golfing? That McHale thinks Hudson is
> a wuss? That all the rest of the teams, if they take McHale's
> calls at all, laugh uncontrollably at McHale's offers? That
> the commishioner won't let the Wolves play in the D-league?
> That Eddie G isn't taking calls from rehab?
>
> >
> > I'm thinking nothing will get done, and this is the team we will have
> > to watch.
>
> Apparently. And that for the 1st 20 games, they'll be billed as an
> uptempo team. Then a realignment will get us to the All-Star break.
> Then, fire Casey, and bringing on Wittman will stoke fan interest for
> 20 more games, and then unleash Mark Madsen from the 3pt line
> for the last 20 games and angle for a lottery pick. Woo woo!
>
> > Another year of Mark Blount futility, and Casey playing head games with
> > the already challenged, incredibly fragile Eddie Griffin. Has the team
> > considered a hypnotist for both? Backbone, will to rebound, a little
> > leather on the hide.
>
> Nah, Eddie already spanks the monkey-bone.
>
> >Griffin is a classic case of self loathing, and
> > needs some support, if he has to be retained, then how about
> > encouraging him, and building him up.
>
> That was what the DVD in the dashboard was for.
>
> But seriously, you're right.
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Ramon wrote:
> It is getting pretty frustrating seeing our team's lack of movement. I
> realize that something could be brewing behind-the-scenes, but I'm very
> skeptical about McHale and Company's ability to improve this team.
> Has anyone heard any rumors lately about this team?
> They can't possibly think that this current roster is built correctly.
> Any thoughts?

The Wolves made one of the biggest moves of any team by signing Mike
James, a 20 point, 6 assist point guard. This *might* even be a better
move than the Bulls signing Wallace or the Peja signing.

Sure, it would be nice to get rid of Blount, Jaric or Hudson, but I
wouldn't expect a miracle here, even if Jerry West were GM. Outside
NY, teams seem to be more wary of ugly contracts this offseason.
McHale has made some bad moves (worst of all the Jaric signing and
Wally/Davis/Blount trade), but this offseason has been a good one.

Adding James and Foye is a huge upgrade from Jaric/Huson/Carter, and
probably puts them into contention for a 7th or 8th seed, assuming KG
can have a better season than last.

> Ramon
> levi wrote:
> > Andy H wrote:
> > > I makes you wonder when you visit hoopshype.com and there is no news
> > > from the Wolves, or other sites as well, but there seems to be a
> > > constant stream from Portland, Indiana, and of all places the Wizards?
> > > Hmmmmm.
> >
> > Umm, what is there to report? That McHale doesn't take calls
> > when he's fishing/golfing? That McHale thinks Hudson is
> > a wuss? That all the rest of the teams, if they take McHale's
> > calls at all, laugh uncontrollably at McHale's offers? That
> > the commishioner won't let the Wolves play in the D-league?
> > That Eddie G isn't taking calls from rehab?
> >
> > >
> > > I'm thinking nothing will get done, and this is the team we will have
> > > to watch.
> >
> > Apparently. And that for the 1st 20 games, they'll be billed as an
> > uptempo team. Then a realignment will get us to the All-Star break.
> > Then, fire Casey, and bringing on Wittman will stoke fan interest for
> > 20 more games, and then unleash Mark Madsen from the 3pt line
> > for the last 20 games and angle for a lottery pick. Woo woo!
> >
> > > Another year of Mark Blount futility, and Casey playing head games with
> > > the already challenged, incredibly fragile Eddie Griffin. Has the team
> > > considered a hypnotist for both? Backbone, will to rebound, a little
> > > leather on the hide.
> >
> > Nah, Eddie already spanks the monkey-bone.
> >
> > >Griffin is a classic case of self loathing, and
> > > needs some support, if he has to be retained, then how about
> > > encouraging him, and building him up.
> >
> > That was what the DVD in the dashboard was for.
> >
> > But seriously, you're right.
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On 1 Aug 2006 12:30:38 -0700, "Andy H" <aharcus.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:

>I makes you wonder

Yes, you often make me wonder, Andy. ;-)




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On 1 Aug 2006 19:12:31 -0700, "levi" <levi.RemoveThis@visi.com> wrote:

>>Andy H wrote:
>>
>> I'm thinking nothing will get done, and this is the team we will have
>> to watch.
>
>Apparently. And that for the 1st 20 games, they'll be billed as an
>uptempo team. Then a realignment will get us to the All-Star break.
>Then, fire Casey, and bringing on Wittman will stoke fan interest for
>20 more games, and then unleash Mark Madsen from the 3pt line
>for the last 20 games and angle for a lottery pick. Woo woo!


Optimist. ;-)




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On 2 Aug 2006 14:17:36 -0700, "ikrushlots@aol.com"
<ikrushlots DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:

>Ramon wrote:
>> It is getting pretty frustrating seeing our team's lack of movement. I
>> realize that something could be brewing behind-the-scenes, but I'm very
>> skeptical about McHale and Company's ability to improve this team.
>> Has anyone heard any rumors lately about this team?
>> They can't possibly think that this current roster is built correctly.
>> Any thoughts?
>
>The Wolves made one of the biggest moves of any team by signing Mike
>James, a 20 point, 6 assist point guard. This *might* even be a better
>move than the Bulls signing Wallace or the Peja signing.
>
>Sure, it would be nice to get rid of Blount, Jaric or Hudson, but I
>wouldn't expect a miracle here, even if Jerry West were GM. Outside
>NY, teams seem to be more wary of ugly contracts this offseason.
>McHale has made some bad moves (worst of all the Jaric signing and
>Wally/Davis/Blount trade), but this offseason has been a good one.
>
>Adding James and Foye is a huge upgrade from Jaric/Huson/Carter, and
>probably puts them into contention for a 7th or 8th seed, assuming KG
>can have a better season than last.



Über optimist. ;-)





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S. Smith wrote:
> On 1 Aug 2006 12:30:38 -0700, "Andy H" <aharcus.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >I makes you wonder
>
> Yes, you often make me wonder, Andy. ;-)
>
>
>
>
> - Scott Smith: scott.TakeThisOut@sludgereport.org
> Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
> Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com

What? Ikrush thinks we out smoked the Wallace signing. Now that is
blotter acid seeing things on the sunny side.

However, Eddie Jones, the Suns color guy had a very dim view of
Wallace, and that now that he's on the Bulls, he no longer has the
other Pistons to hide the deficits in his game.
In other words, no offensive game, and the Pistons might actually
profit from his absense.
That's hard to believe, but only time will tell.

As far as the Wolves, unless they get a huge turnaround from EG, and
somehow get Blount a heart to make him want to rebound, KG will be
forced to get all the rebounds, and his tank will continue to get
drained by seasons end. If this team can't rebound on the offensive
end they are doomed to more of the same, I don't care how much hop and
verve they employ at the start of the season.
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ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
>
> The Wolves made one of the biggest moves of any team by signing Mike
> James, a 20 point, 6 assist point guard. This *might* even be a better
> move than the Bulls signing Wallace or the Peja signing.

Oh boy. Now that Hudson's gone, Krush needs a new point guard to hype!

Matt
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Andy H wrote:
> S. Smith wrote:
> > On 1 Aug 2006 12:30:38 -0700, "Andy H" <aharcus.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I makes you wonder
> >
> > Yes, you often make me wonder, Andy. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Scott Smith: scott.RemoveThis@sludgereport.org
> > Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
> > Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com
>
> What? Ikrush thinks we out smoked the Wallace signing. Now that is
> blotter acid seeing things on the sunny side.

I've always felt Wallace is overrated.

> However, Eddie Jones, the Suns color guy had a very dim view of
> Wallace, and that now that he's on the Bulls, he no longer has the
> other Pistons to hide the deficits in his game.
> In other words, no offensive game, and the Pistons might actually
> profit from his absense.
> That's hard to believe, but only time will tell.
>
> As far as the Wolves, unless they get a huge turnaround from EG, and
> somehow get Blount a heart to make him want to rebound, KG will be
> forced to get all the rebounds, and his tank will continue to get
> drained by seasons end. If this team can't rebound on the offensive
> end they are doomed to more of the same, I don't care how much hop and
> verve they employ at the start of the season.
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Matt wrote:
> ikrushlots RemoveThis @aol.com wrote:
> >
> > The Wolves made one of the biggest moves of any team by signing Mike
> > James, a 20 point, 6 assist point guard. This *might* even be a better
> > move than the Bulls signing Wallace or the Peja signing.
>
> Oh boy. Now that Hudson's gone,

Hudson's gone???

>Krush needs a new point guard to hype!
> Matt
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ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hudson's gone???

In my mind he is. Don't destroy the fantasy.

Matt
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On 3 Aug 2006 09:29:30 -0700, "Matt" <AcesWired DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>ikrushlots@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Hudson's gone???
>
>In my mind he is. Don't destroy the fantasy.


In my mind, he was gone a couple of seasons ago. ;-)



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ikrushlots.RemoveThis@aol.com wrote:
> Andy H wrote:
> > S. Smith wrote:
> > > On 1 Aug 2006 12:30:38 -0700, "Andy H" <aharcus.RemoveThis@msn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I makes you wonder
> > >
> > > Yes, you often make me wonder, Andy. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott Smith: scott.RemoveThis@sludgereport.org
> > > Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
> > > Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com
> >
> > What? Ikrush thinks we out smoked the Wallace signing. Now that is
> > blotter acid seeing things on the sunny side.
>
> I've always felt Wallace is overrated.

For years now, I thought it was Krush who opined that Big Ben
was a "defensive MONSTER", but no, that was Scott in 2002.

It was Krush (in the same thread, btw) who thought Hudson was
an upgrade from Billups, in fact stating "it's obvious he will never
be even a very good point guard". Arguable at the time perhaps.
Laughable now ( <chuckle> ).

Ben Wallace would be a HUGE upgrade at center for the Wolves,
despite the perceived lack of offense.

>
> > However, Eddie Jones, the Suns color guy had a very dim view of
> > Wallace, and that now that he's on the Bulls, he no longer has the
> > other Pistons to hide the deficits in his game.
> > In other words, no offensive game, and the Pistons might actually
> > profit from his absense.
> > That's hard to believe, but only time will tell.
> >
> > As far as the Wolves, unless they get a huge turnaround from EG, and
> > somehow get Blount a heart to make him want to rebound, KG will be
> > forced to get all the rebounds, and his tank will continue to get
> > drained by seasons end. If this team can't rebound on the offensive
> > end they are doomed to more of the same, I don't care how much hop and
> > verve they employ at the start of the season.
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levi wrote:
> ikrushlots.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
> > Andy H wrote:
> > > S. Smith wrote:
> > > > On 1 Aug 2006 12:30:38 -0700, "Andy H" <aharcus.DeleteThis@msn.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I makes you wonder
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you often make me wonder, Andy. ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > - Scott Smith: scott.DeleteThis@sludgereport.org
> > > > Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
> > > > Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > What? Ikrush thinks we out smoked the Wallace signing. Now that is
> > > blotter acid seeing things on the sunny side.
> >
> > I've always felt Wallace is overrated.
>
> For years now, I thought it was Krush who opined that Big Ben
> was a "defensive MONSTER", but no, that was Scott in 2002.
>
> It was Krush (in the same thread, btw) who thought Hudson was
> an upgrade from Billups, in fact stating "it's obvious he will never
> be even a very good point guard". Arguable at the time perhaps.
> Laughable now ( <chuckle> ).

As with many of the fans and teams Billups had left dumbfounded, I felt
Billups just didn't get it. I could not have predicted Larry Brown
would get his hands on Billups and turn him into a top 5 point guard.
Without Brown, I don't think Billups would have been a good point
guard.

Hudson was an upgrade for the Wolves that season. 14.7/5.7 vs Billups
12.5 and 5.5. Unfortuantely, Hudson's game digressed due to injuries
and a bad attitude.

> Ben Wallace would be a HUGE upgrade at center for the Wolves,
> despite the perceived lack of offense.

Wallace would be a big upgrade for the Wolves, but I don't think he's
going to give Chicago a ton more than Chandler gave them. That's why I
said the Wolves signing of James *might* end up being better than the
Chicago Wallace signing.

> > > However, Eddie Jones, the Suns color guy had a very dim view of
> > > Wallace, and that now that he's on the Bulls, he no longer has the
> > > other Pistons to hide the deficits in his game.
> > > In other words, no offensive game, and the Pistons might actually
> > > profit from his absense.
> > > That's hard to believe, but only time will tell.
> > >
> > > As far as the Wolves, unless they get a huge turnaround from EG, and
> > > somehow get Blount a heart to make him want to rebound, KG will be
> > > forced to get all the rebounds, and his tank will continue to get
> > > drained by seasons end. If this team can't rebound on the offensive
> > > end they are doomed to more of the same, I don't care how much hop and
> > > verve they employ at the start of the season.

The Wolves don't need a huge turnaround from EG. All he needs is
minutes. The guy averaged 5.6 rebounds in under 20 minutes/game
(better or similar to the rebounding help Duncan or Howard got) .
That's 11 rebounds adjusted for 39 minutes/game. Not bad for the
secondary rebounder. The Wolves need to start EG. If he gets 35
minutes/game, he *will* average 8.5-9 rebounds and 2.5-3 blocks/game.
I have no idea what he will give the team on offense, but it will be
worth taking a load off KG on the defensive end.

The group will probably call it Krush optimism, but if the Wolves don't
make any other moves and *start* EG/KG/Hassel/Foye/James, with Davis
(he is a very good scoring 6th man), Jaric (2 or 3, not 1), Blount,
Reed (great role player, can play 3 and 4 at times) and Wright off the
bench, the team will make the playoffs.
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